⚾ 🥎 ESPNW dives into the Auburn softball program and the mess the Myers created.

I was an IT Operation Manager for a large grocery chain in the South and the old saying by the Retail Managers was

"don't stick your pecker in the checker"...................could be applied to softball as well
If you do, paper or plastic is a easy choice it would seem.

:rolf:



on a more serious note...

i can't begin to imagine what the head coach was going through. on the one hand, he had his girls that he had to think about. sure we make fun of the whole "auburn family" thing; but him thinking of his players like that isn't necessarily a bad thing. from the article, it seems he loved them all like family and that he'd do anything for them. then, he had his real family. his son, his own flesh and blood, was accused of something that would make most dads go absolutely bat-shit crazy with rage if their daughter was the victim if anything like that. so there was a need for protection factor there when it came to his son. and i can't fault that. so i can't begin to imagine what he was going through and feeling. do you back your players, your girls, your "family"? or do you back your own son, your flesh and blood, your "real" family?

if that'd been me, and it'd been my son who'd been accused of such things, and i later found out they were true, i'd have a very difficult time trying not to get him to come clean...no matter the cost. i love my family more than anything else on this planet....ANYTHING! but i value honesty so much that i would expect any of them to be honest with themselves and everyone else, even if it meant hurting them in the process. without honestly, there can be no trust. and i trust my family more than i trust anyone else on this planet. and i fully expect them to be completely honest with me, even if it means my feelings will be hurt, or i may get in some serious, even legal, trouble. and i hope i could be completely honest with them, as well.

so i can understand if the head coach wavered a bit when he found out, or heard the rumors, whichever came first, and didn't want to just throw his son to the wolves. he was protecting his son. he was being a father. but i'm sure he was a bit torn when weighing that against his girls on the team.

and about the one girl who was "ostracized"... my thinking is they did that because it broke up the harmony the team had at the time, and they didn't want anything messing with that and the things they were trying to accomplish that season. but, in my opinion, they chose wrong. they chose glory and fame over a teammates troubles. and that should never even be a contest.
 
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And if you think this is bad..... how did UTs Pat Summit...
Escape the family filth thing when her son.....knocked up one of his players...as HC of a Womans Bball program
...that was really covered up....

Not sure what this has to do with Pat.

Her son was a coach at Louisiana Tech and had sex with one of his players. He resigned. There were rumors of a pregnancy but nothing was proven.

Pat had nothing to do with this. No cover up. Not to mention the fact that Pat herself was pretty far gone mentally due to Alzheimer's at that point .. She died just two months after this story broke, as I recall.

Having seen three relatives suffer from Alzheimer's, I'd be amazed if she even knew who Tyler was at that point ..
 
And the Myerses have protected the Myerses, never once admitting wrongdoing. But nobody protected the girls. "Everybody protected Coach," Haley Fagan says. "Nobody protected us."

Fambly...

That whole program seems toxic sometimes. Football program is constantly involved in something (whether its paying players, changing grades, giving kids fake classes, etc.), basketball is involved in a damn scandal that has the FBI investigating it, this softball mess. Just something constantly.
 
And if you think this is bad..... how did UTs Pat Summit...
Escape the family filth thing when her son.....knocked up one of his players...as HC of a Womans Bball program
...that was really covered up....

Not sure what this has to do with Pat.

Her son was a coach at Louisiana Tech and had sex with one of his players. He resigned. There were rumors of a pregnancy but nothing was proven.

Pat had nothing to do with this. No cover up. Not to mention the fact that Pat herself was pretty far gone mentally due to Alzheimer's at that point .. She died just two months after this story broke, as I recall.

Having seen three relatives suffer from Alzheimer's, I'd be amazed if she even knew who Tyler was at that point ..

Well it was about bad boy coaches behaving bad.... covered up around here or
Played down here in Tennessee however one wants to view it Thats all. No she probably didn’t know. She was shielded from public for her honor and privacy
 
And if you think this is bad..... how did UTs Pat Summit...
Escape the family filth thing when her son.....knocked up one of his players...as HC of a Womans Bball program
...that was really covered up....
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Your last sentence confuses me. How was it covered up? He was fired immediately.

Not for his sake. He was terminated or resigned. Wasnt a public issue that the press chose to make of it. That they would have for others. Thats all. Played way down to not mentioned eccept as a bye line around here
 
And if you think this is bad..... how did UTs Pat Summit...
Escape the family filth thing when her son.....knocked up one of his players...as HC of a Womans Bball program
...that was really covered up....

Not sure what this has to do with Pat.

Her son was a coach at Louisiana Tech and had sex with one of his players. He resigned. There were rumors of a pregnancy but nothing was proven.

Pat had nothing to do with this. No cover up. Not to mention the fact that Pat herself was pretty far gone mentally due to Alzheimer's at that point .. She died just two months after this story broke, as I recall.

Having seen three relatives suffer from Alzheimer's, I'd be amazed if she even knew who Tyler was at that point ..

Well it was about bad boy coaches behaving bad.... covered up around here or
Played down here in Tennessee however one wants to view it Thats all. No she probably didn’t know. She was shielded from public for her honor and privacy

But it wasn't covered up anywhere; not in Ruston, or in Knoxville.

The two parties involved kept it a secret, players got suspicious, the news broke, he resigned, and LA Tech investigated.
 
The two parties involved kept it a secret, players got suspicious, the news broke, he resigned, and LA Tech investigated.

@50+yeartidefan, That's versus the players got suspicious, Auburn sent in it's administration to talk to the team and took all of their cell phones away because they didn't want this going any further than their locker room. Literally, confiscated cell phones from those ladies.

Understand, that was the second time. Corey had already been suspended once because the players became suspicious, AU investigated, and then let the guy back in as a coach.
 
The two parties involved kept it a secret, players got suspicious, the news broke, he resigned, and LA Tech investigated.

@50+yeartidefan, That's versus the players got suspicious, Auburn sent in it's administration to talk to the team and took all of their cell phones away because they didn't want this going any further than their locker room. Literally, confiscated cell phones from those ladies.

Understand, that was the second time. Corey had already been suspended once because the players became suspicious, AU investigated, and then let the guy back in as a coach.

And @PhillyGirl ...... thats AU though.... would we expect anything different....
 
When the shit hits the fan and you don't have enough toilet paper to clean up the mess...

Jay G. Tate
IT'S A TRAP!
Staff
Talking just now with a friend on the INSIDE ... everyone whose professional life brought them within earshot of softball is now retired or canned. Every last one of them*. That was a big, big deal. It ultimately brought down that entire regime.
Just got home so I haven't taken the time to look up the details (I'm not that interested in reading up on this right now.) According to this note there were three assistant AD's fired, three out of a total of six, including Meredith Jenkins (Title IX rep.)
 
I'll never understand why/how a female leader enables this to be covered up, un this case Meredith. Why didn't the softball players speak up more? Is the fear of losing a job/scholarship so great that it prevents you from doing what's right?

These folks should be allowed into any educational institution going forward.

Where the hell was Tate during all of this?
 
I can't come up with another description other than short-sighted.



Seizing cell phones and telling players to delete messages. Do you think, even for a second, these girls weren't intimidated with the fear of losing their place on the team?
 
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