Ranking the 80 best college football defenders of the 2000sGot a link for reference?
Who’s bitching and moaning? Reread what I posted and tell me how what I wrote could in any conceivable way be construed in such a manner? I simply asked my fellow Tide fans who they would have included? I didn’t criticize the ESPN article nor the writer (whom I like very much). And I’m the absolute last Bama fan who can be fairly labeled as a wearer of crimson colored glasses. In fact my account was suspended on Tidefans.com because they only want comments from those who have had those glasses permanently implanted.So, 80 players...
How many division 1 teams are there? And 11 defensive starters on each of those teams? I can't remember the last number, but if there are 135 D1 schools, x 11 players on defense, x 21 years..
That's 31k players that they drew their paltry list of 80 top players from.
And we had 4 out of 31k? That's pretty good.
Devil's advocate here: OK, so let's take the top 3 players from each of those teams...
That's still 8500 players. Now let's divide that number by 1.75 for the average starting years of some top players. Because some only start a year, some start 3 or 4... That number is still 4,860.
Pull a list of only 80 of the top defensive players from 4,860. Now that we still had 4 players out of those nearly 5k that was trimmed down to 80.
Spitting out the Krimson Koolaid for a sec, that's still pretty awesome.
Should Ha-ha have been there? Absolutely. But was Minkah better than him? I'd say yes. Even as awesome as HCD was. It looks to me like they selected top players from key defensive positions. So we have one of each of the top Safeties, defensive tackles, defensive ends, and cornerbacks.
Still pretty solid. I think the list is pretty fair.
Why do we have to bitch and moan about EVERYTHING when we're the top program in NCAAFB history?
MUST we have it ALL?
So, 80 players...
How many division 1 teams are there? And 11 defensive starters on each of those teams? I can't remember the last number, but if there are 135 D1 schools, x 11 players on defense, x 21 years..
That's 31k players that they drew their paltry list of 80 top players from.
And we had 4 out of 31k? That's pretty good.
Devil's advocate here: OK, so let's take the top 3 players from each of those teams...
That's still 8500 players. Now let's divide that number by 1.75 for the average starting years of some top players. Because some only start a year, some start 3 or 4... That number is still 4,860.
Pull a list of only 80 of the top defensive players from 4,860. Now that we still had 4 players out of those nearly 5k that was trimmed down to 80.
Spitting out the Krimson Koolaid for a sec, that's still pretty awesome.
Should Ha-ha have been there? Absolutely. But was Minkah better than him? I'd say yes. Even as awesome as HCD was. It looks to me like they selected top players from key defensive positions. So we have one of each of the top Safeties, defensive tackles, defensive ends, and cornerbacks.
Still pretty solid. I think the list is pretty fair.
Why do we have to bitch and moan about EVERYTHING when we're the top program in NCAAFB history?
MUST we have it ALL?
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Who’s bitching and moaning? Please show me where in my post you see any bitching and moaning. I simply asked my fellow Bama fans who they would have included? I never said the list was unfair ... but since you brought up the subject, I firmly believe articles written by true journalists should be based upon facts and not written with an eye towards being fair. However, in this instance, one might reasonably argue that it’s “unfair” for the most dominate team in modern football history whose defenses for half of the span upon which the list was based were the most dominate in the sport and we’re manned by far more 1st Rounders than any other program, to only have four players selected.
Who’s bitching and moaning? Reread what I posted and tell me how what I wrote could in any conceivable way be construed in such a manner? I simply asked my fellow Tide fans who they would have included? I didn’t criticize the ESPN article nor the writer (whom I like very much). And I’m the absolute last Bama fan who can be fairly labeled as a wearer of crimson colored glasses. In fact my account was suspended on Tidefans.com because they only want comments from those who have had those glasses permanently implanted.
However, to your point about the article “being fair” ... in my opinion, articles from true sportswriters should be based upon facts and not upon what’s fair. No team in modern football history has been so dominate as has Bama since 2008 and from 2008 to 2017 they dominated based primarily upon their defenses. So, for half of the span upon which this list was based, the most dominate team in history with the most dominate defenses during those 10 years and manned by far more 1st Round defensive players than any other program only garners four spots?
Precisely.Bill Connelly is a data guy, way more than most imho.