💬 ESPN Layoffs: Tebow has contract extended by ESPN

Seriously man? Safe spaces?

Did you see conservatives need cry rooms and exam excuses because Obama won in 08/12? Did you see us riot, set **** on fire, assault people en masse and illegally block traffic? No. We punched our clocks and went to work and moved on with our lives. Coz you know... We're not safe-space pussy crybabies. Like YOUR ilk is.

Typical "tolerant" lefty. You're tolerant, as long as we agree with you.

We agree on football, that's it.

No they just started petitions to try and get their states to secede from the union :rolf: and screamed for 8 years how he really wasnt' American :eyeroll:

And we just saw Trumppets attacking people that disagreed with them while their messiah screamed for them to do so...

but I have no sympathy for anyone on a college campus or anywhere else thinking they need a "safe space"... my comment was more so making fun of conservatives who whine about liberals needing one while acting the same way...

And the projection at the end there is priceless... All I have to do is say how I disagree with you and get attacked by the majority of people on here. So then I get annoyed and say someone sounds stupid and Im the bad guy.
 
Nahhh....


ESPN didn't take a hard left turn and piss off it's middle-American conservative viewers.

Not at all.

ESPECIALLY not with this stunt.

Really a stupid ESPY Award hurt your little sensibilities that bad? :eyeroll: If there weren't people showing their fake outrage over Bruce Jenner getting that stupid award would you have even heard about it? Offuckingcoursenot. But yea you're right, everyone in "middle america" totally cancelled ESPN because of that and their "lefty agenda"... despite the fact that ESPN football being one of the highest rated events consistently on TV... we know "middle america" totally doesn't love and watch football...

Im 100% done with this because you arent convincing me and nothing in the would could convince you guys your views on anything could be anything other than the truth. I mean how am I surprised with this? For 8 years you guys screamed about Obama being Kenyan, no matter how times a birth certificate was flashed in your face :rolf:

ESPN will continue to lose subscribers, just like cable companies and satellite companies are going to continue losing subscribers, while people continue get better internet connections and cheaper alternatives. Have a good one.

Roll Tide.
 
This is exactly why I created a politics area on WoollyAl, when I created it, to keep this kind of stuff out of the sports threads, then I never set foot in there, let them snipe all they wanted in there, as long as it did not leak into the rest of the site. FWIW, I am neither Dem or Rep, neither left or right, both sides infuriate me at times, which is why I stay as far away from politics as possible.
 
I'm just going to drop this final truth bomb in here...

The reason liberals are having such a hard time pulling their heads out of their asses and then wrapping said shit-stained heads around the reason for this tanking of Titanic proportions is because liberals don't fully grasp how the basic tenets of capitalism work. And honestly, how could you expect them to? After all, liberals are the champions of destroying the "evils of capitalism".

You see, capitalism is driven by consumerism. I have goods I want to sell, and you are my consumer. Buying and selling of goods. The reason that ESPN is tanking is not just because of chord cutting. That's a blanket explanation.

It's the same reason that Starbucks has reported losses for a 5th straight quarter, dating all the way back to late 2015. They pissed off an overwhelming percentage of their consumers by alienating conservatives and pushing a hard left agenda. You see... you, Mr CEO, can be liberal all you want... On your own time. But if you alienate me and start to force your ideals onto me by acts such as stating that "Trump supporters are not welcome in our shops", well... I no longer want the products you're selling.

They don't understand how demographics work when targeting consumers. It would be like me trying to open a BBQ joint in a Jewish neighborhood. It would fail, because I didn't understand how demographics work.

So when you start tainting your products with your personal political ideals (right OR left), you piss off AT LEAST HALF of your consumer base.

So chord-cutting might be a valid reason for ESPN's woes. The question everybody is failing to ask is... How many of those chord cutters were conservatives that were fed up with ESPN's extreme turn into hard left politics?

You bet your ASS it's AT LEAST half.
 
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This is exactly why I created a politics area on WoollyAl, when I created it, to keep this kind of stuff out of the sports threads, then I never set foot in there, let them snipe all they wanted in there, as long as it did not leak into the rest of the site. FWIW, I am neither Dem or Rep, neither left or right, both sides infuriate me at times, which is why I stay as far away from politics as possible.

ESPN had the same idea, I believe...

The all sports programming was very successful. The mostly sports/some gossip/ some politics programming, not so much.
 
This is exactly why I created a politics area on WoollyAl, when I created it, to keep this kind of stuff out of the sports threads, then I never set foot in there, let them snipe all they wanted in there, as long as it did not leak into the rest of the site. FWIW, I am neither Dem or Rep, neither left or right, both sides infuriate me at times, which is why I stay as far away from politics as possible.

There's a lot I agree with here. Unfortunately, there are times were politics and sports can't be separated—by choice or context. The current amateurism debates may be the best example.

On the other hand, when you do see off-sports topics creeping in to sports discussions it's a quick tell about individual posters and their reasoning processes.
 
On another note ... going back to the beginning of this thread where we had some of the ESPN pundits telling people how they are supposed to act with the announcement of those who were laid off and where the subject of firings were supposed to be met with different reactions from the public ...

I'm listening to Russillo's new format and his guest today has called for NFL GM's to be fired several times. I promise you I heard him say, "fire 'em, fire 'em, fire 'em" at least a dozen times in a segment that lasted no longer than four minutes.
 
On another note ... going back to the beginning of this thread where we had some of the ESPN pundits telling people how they are supposed to act with the announcement of those who were laid off and where the subject of firings were supposed to be met with different reactions from the public ...

I'm listening to Russillo's new format and his guest today has called for NFL GM's to be fired several times. I promise you I heard him say, "fire 'em, fire 'em, fire 'em" at least a dozen times in a segment that lasted no longer than four minutes.

Geez.
 
Liberals will never admit defeat. They will just change the subject and move on to something else. They have no F character. They confuse education with intelligence. Most liberals are still trying remove their lips form Obama's dik. The libs own the left coast and the northeast......the rest is a street fight at this time. Trump is the last shot. He has many faults but he loves his country. We'll see. JMO but he(country) is behind by two TD's late in the 4th Qtr. This country is dying from pure Sorriness.
 
If there weren't people showing their fake outrage over Bruce Jenner getting that stupid award would you have even heard about it? Offuckingcoursenot.

Just for what it's all worth. I've told you a few times you say things that leave me shaking my head--in disbelief.

This is an example.

No. ESPN isn't pushing agendas. The outrage was ESPN taking a political stance. Immediately.

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BTW, Bird.

I've read you state ESPN, and other media pundits, are given sides to arguments they are supposed to support in efforts to gain ratings.

I've read you state ESPN, and other media pundits, aren't given sides to arguments they are supposed to support in efforts to gain ratings.

What I find disappointing is when questioned your retort fell on Mickey Mouse related answers which, seemingly, is a case of ignoring, willing, a pretty damn good question. A question we've seen you have two sides with as of late; subject dependant.
 
ESPN is for most everyone as long as they're not white nor Christian. Disney is a chartered member of the NWO.

Obama trying to find his way out of the closet ...ESPN loved the guy

Claim: Obama hid ‘gay life’ to become president
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ESPN agreed to pay out full contracts, which in some cases lasted more than five years. Several reporters offered to continue working through their contracts without incurring expenses, but they were told they couldn’t.

Talent that had contracts were told that they were still employees of ESPN on payroll, but they no longer worked for the company. Many have non-compete clauses in their deals, which means they can’t report their beats, even on social media, until their contracts end or they are released. In order to get around the non-compete clauses, they would have to report on entirely different beats than the ones they spent years developing at ESPN.

What already had been a rough market for on-air talent became a lot rougher.

“It’s rare that you see such a huge shift in the marketplace for talent,” said Jim Miller, author of best-selling books on ESPN and CAA.

It also marks a stark difference from four years ago. That was soon after NBC Sports rebranded its sports channel to NBC Sports Network and FS1 launched. Throw in CBS Sports Network and all the league-owned channels, and the market for on-air talent soared. Wanting to keep people from going to the rival networks, ESPN, in particular, was generous about paying to keep its talent roster intact.

“ESPN didn’t want to create the perception that the new kid on the block in FS1 was a good place to go,” Miller said. “ESPN paid extraordinary increases in new contracts because FS1 expressed interest.”

Top talent agent Sandy Montag, founder of The Montag Group, said the feeding frenzy as those channels battled for talent “created a false sense of security in the market.”

Much of last week’s press blamed the layoffs on “cord cutters,” consumers who are going without traditional cable or satellite service. And for good reason: Since FS1’s August 2013 launch, ESPN has lost 10.8 million subscribers, according to Nielsen. It currently is in 86.9 million homes.

During that time, though, ESPN also spent big on sports rights, including its multibillion-dollar NBA deal that kicked in last fall.

“The layoffs showed that sports is big business,” Montag said. “The amount of money ESPN and Turner are paying for the NBA has a direct impact on their costs.”

For tech and media investor Eric Jackson, last week’s layoffs will have little effect on ESPN’s overall business. He’s more interested in its digital plans, including its investment in BAMTech and upcoming over-the-top launch, even as he acknowledges that the layoffs will garner more attention.

“This is a drop in the bucket compared to the size of the new sports rights deals,” he said. “At least it shows that they are putting their toe in the water.”

Montag said the market for on-air sports talent remains frothy for A-listers who can command an audience. But many of the people now in the market will find it hard to find similar TV jobs.

“With so many talented people in the market, it could change the landscape,” he said. “ESPN created positions that have never existed before. CBS does not need an MLB reporter, for example. ESPN set the market on a lot of these positions.”

Playbook Inc. founder and CEO Reed Bergman agreed.

“When they have a need, networks will go out and spend on top talent,” he said. “When it’s the right kind of talent, they’re going to pay for it.”

Both Bergman and Montag said many of the people looking for work should look beyond television to companies such as AT&T, Amazon and Apple.

“I am still very bullish,” Bergman said. “I believe that while the landscape is changing, you will start to see more impact players that are non-traditional.”

Montag agreed.

“We are going to see more programming on non-linear devices,” he said. “So many people have gotten into sports broadcasting. There aren’t enough TV jobs for everyone who wants to be an anchor. It’s more of a buyer’s market than a seller’s market.”
 
or tech and media investor Eric Jackson, last week’s layoffs will have little effect on ESPN’s overall business. He’s more interested in its digital plans, including its investment in BAMTech and upcoming over-the-top launch, even as he acknowledges that the layoffs will garner more attention.

“This is a drop in the bucket compared to the size of the new sports rights deals,” he said. “At least it shows that they are putting their toe in the water.”

I got confused right there. The way it is written it sounds like he's saying he's pleased with ESPN's model, he's more interested in their digital plans including its investment ...

That's the wait a minute. Disney's is making strong moves to take control of BAMTech...

non-linear devices,

There's it is again. I'm starting to see people talking about OTT services like it is a brand new thing--people who've been using them for years and are just learning the term.
 
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