💬 ESPN Layoffs: Tebow has contract extended by ESPN

[planomateo]

Unrelated to all of this, but certainly makes me wonder what Amazon is gonna in the future in this space. Amazon released their yearly numbers for subscription services recently. $6.394 Billion...wrap your head around that.

 

[Bamabww]

How do you get rid of Kannel and not dump Galloway too?

Both just plain awful.

Iagree, never liked either one when they were paired together. I think Galloway might actually have something to offer with the right partner.

 

[PurlJam]

opcorn2:

On the plus side for them, they'll be unemployed and getting a gubment check like a big majority of the liberal supporters.... maybe they'll protest, riot and tear some shit up, be more entertaining than their shows on ESPN.

 

[Rolltide24]

Didn't see too many of the eye candy "sideline reporters" on the list of those let go. Or did I miss some... Those girls have nothing to worry about.

 

[Tidestalker]

In this very thread you have several saying the reason they don't watch ESPN programming is due to their content. IN THIS THREAD. But, it's 100% due to cord cutting.

There are numerous articles published reflecting the same--but it's 100% due to cord cutting.

I was a religious watcher of Sportscenter forever... About a year ago I completely quit watching it. Partly due to the political correctness factor, more so because of the TMZ like stories. The "Bottom Line" news ticket literally looks like a TMZ sports blog.

Many sports fans watch for a break from the every day political grind. I'm one of them. When the two get intertwined, I lose interest. I also had a subscription that expired about 2 yrs ago... No mas.

 

[JoshB]

In this very thread you have several saying the reason they don't watch ESPN programming is due to their content. IN THIS THREAD. But, it's 100% due to cord cutting.

There are numerous articles published reflecting the same--but it's 100% due to cord cutting.

For every "published article" you can find me I'll give you a dozen that talks about cord cutting... this shit has been happening for like two years now...

Conservative Media Is Wrong: Cord Cutting - Not Politics - Led to the Massive Layoffs at ESPN
The Real Story Behind ESPN's Wednesday Massacre


But three people on this board claimed they "dont watch ESPN programming due to their content" and that is evidence enough that its a "conservative revolution" :rolf: And even those will admit that they watch ESPN when Bama plays... so how are they doing that without ESPN? I guess they have a crystal ball that magically plays the games right?

Lets ignore the countless articles regarding the slow death of cable tv and cord cutting and pretend because some conservatives dont like that a cpl of ESPN writers/personalities are liberal and talk about it on their shows/columns thats whats REALLY killing ESPN... I guess that good ole "liberal bias" was the cause of Fox laying off 400 employees too last year?

 

[JoshB]

Unrelated to all of this, but certainly makes me wonder what Amazon is gonna in the future in this space. Amazon released their yearly numbers for subscription services recently. $6.394 Billion...wrap your head around that.

Amazon and Netflix are bidding for big name TV shows already and ESPN is about to launch a subscription streaming service that you can buy on Amazon Fire, Roku, etc. Eventually this kind of stuff is whats going to completely take over especially as more and more places get reliable internet.

 

[planomateo]

 

[TUSKtimes]

These layoffs and who they effect is just a way for me to keep score as I read. I personally shut down Stephen A Smith and those of his ilk years ago.

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

For every "published article" you can find me I'll give you a dozen that talks about cord cutting... this **** has been happening for like two years now...

Conservative Media Is Wrong: Cord Cutting - Not Politics - Led to the Massive Layoffs at ESPN
The Real Story Behind ESPN's Wednesday Massacre


But three people on this board claimed they "dont watch ESPN programming due to their content" and that is evidence enough that its a "conservative revolution" :rolf: And even those will admit that they watch ESPN when Bama plays... so how are they doing that without ESPN? I guess they have a crystal ball that magically plays the games right?

Lets ignore the countless articles regarding the slow death of cable tv and cord cutting and pretend because some conservatives dont like that a cpl of ESPN writers/personalities are liberal and talk about it on their shows/columns thats whats REALLY killing ESPN... I guess that good ole "liberal bias" was the cause of Fox laying off 400 employees too last year?

Says 1 of the three liberals on this board.

You can quote smoke and mirror articles all you want. Sounds a lot like "The Russians" excuse.

But, the election of Trump proves you're wrong on this. It's the same people between the 2 liberal coasts that put Trump in office that grew tired of ESPN's coastal liberal SJW bullshit.

 

[TerryP]

There was a stock report that came out a few years ago. I want to say it's S&P Global. I'd have to check. It '15 report that put the cutting the cord sect as older Americans.

If there was a game of Australian Rules Football on right now, would you watch it? I'm there.

 

[ComeOnSon]

The Real Story Behind ESPN's Wednesday Massacre

 

[TerryP]

But three people on this board claimed they "dont watch ESPN programming due to their content"

I'm not sure where, or how, to start. How secluded is this world you live in?

Let me ask ya something. Did you bitch about the spiritual angle of Tim Tebow?

$6.394 Billion...wrap your head around that.

Prime Rocks. Period.

 

[planomateo]

It's really simple, they are spending more than they want to, so they're reducing their costs. The tv contracts are the immovable boat anchor, but there are other ways to cut spend. What I don't know, what's their advertising revenue look like?

It's all intertwined, but I'm still of the opinion that the real problem is the loss of subscribers. Perhaps as @TUSKstuff suggests its the terrible decision making on renewing contracts, but all that would be fine if they still had the subscribers. Losing the subscribers is what's uncovering the issue based on my viewpoint. Each subscriber is worth ~$100/year by my estimates (rounded up).

• Longhorn Network - what's gonna happen with that? They really need to hit the reset on this or find a way to turn this into lemonade.
• Future of ACC network?
• Increase subscriber fee's to account for the loss in subscribers.
• Increase advertising fees.
• Offer ESPN a-la-carte, but they're ranked 19th in terms of what subscribers want at 41% for $1.85 according to http://www.fiercecable.com/broadcas...desirable-a-la-carte-channels-tivo-study-says

The beauty in SlingTV, DirecTV Now, etc....if you only want ESPN during college football season, you can do that and never look back. It's really that flexible. ESPN needs to rethink their entire business model. The good thing they have Disney money behind them and Disney still sees value in them, but changes are coming.

 

[BamaFan334]

It's really simple, they are spending more than they want to, so they're reducing their costs. The tv contracts are the immovable boat anchor, but there are other ways to cut spend. What I don't know, what's their advertising revenue look like?

It's all intertwined, but I'm still of the opinion that the real problem is the loss of subscribers. Perhaps as @TUSKstuff suggests its the terrible decision making on renewing contracts, but all that would be fine if they still had the subscribers. Losing the subscribers is what's uncovering the issue based on my viewpoint. Each subscriber is worth ~$100/year by my estimates (rounded up).

• Longhorn Network - what's gonna happen with that? They really need to hit the reset on this or find a way to turn this into lemonade.
• Future of ACC network?
• Increase subscriber fee's to account for the loss in subscribers.
• Increase advertising fees.
• Offer ESPN a-la-carte, but they're ranked 19th in terms of what subscribers want at 41% for $1.85 according to http://www.fiercecable.com/broadcas...desirable-a-la-carte-channels-tivo-study-says

The beauty in SlingTV, DirecTV Now, etc....if you only want ESPN during college football season, you can do that and never look back. It's really that flexible. ESPN needs to rethink their entire business model. The good thing they have Disney money behind them and Disney still sees value in them, but changes are coming.

You can get ESPN with DirecTV just during college football season?

 

[planomateo]

You can get ESPN with DirecTV just during college football season?

Doubt it with the satellite offering, generally they want to lock customers in a 1 year+ agreement. What I was referring to, DirecTV Now is their streaming only service. There is no subscription, you activate/cancel...same with SlingTV. But they've bundled into that platform as well, so you'd have to cut streaming entirely to get rid of ESPN.

So now we're back to a-la-carte and I doubt they offer that because the non-sport fan isn't gonna sign up for $8+/month ESPN option.

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

The Real Story Behind ESPN's Wednesday Massacre

So it's a perfect storm of politics and bad deals, according to the article.

What's also revealed in the piece was that ESPN went full libtard in order to pander to the SJWs that didn't give much of a rat's ass about sports before. And that was the death knell for its massive conservative viewers.

 

[planomateo]

So it's a perfect storm of politics and bad deals, according to the article.

What's also revealed in the piece was that ESPN went full libtard in order to pander to the SJWs that didn't give much of a rat's ass about sports before. And that was the death knell for its massive conservative viewers.

But do you think those conservative viewers actually cancelled their TV service? How much of an impact does it have if you simply stop watching but continue to pay for the service?

I have yet to see someone connect these dots. ESPN is losing subscribers, which means people stopped paying for ESPN all together, essentially becoming a cord cutter. But is it due to poor programming or just cost savings all together?

I cut the cord, but I have DirecTV Now so that I can primarily get access to a few channels, ESPN being one of those. I don't watch SC anymore and I pretty much only watch SECN and some of the live sports they'll air. I'm the real dummy here, paying $35/month for a handful of channels that I can't live without for now...

 

[JoshB]

There was a stock report that came out a few years ago. I want to say it's S&P Global. I'd have to check. It '15 report that put the cutting the cord sect as older Americans.

If there was a game of Australian Rules Football on right now, would you watch it? I'm there.

Thats literally the exact opposite of the age of cord cutters...

Younger Viewers Are Far More Likely to Cut the Cord, Survey Finds - Streaming Media Magazine
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...consumption-millenials-cord-cutters.html?_r=0
http://time.com/money/4473996/cutting-the-cord-cable-tv-alternatives/
http://fortune.com/2016/04/05/household-cable-cord-cutters/

Nice try tho...

Says 1 of the three liberals on this board.

You can quote smoke and mirror articles all you want. Sounds a lot like "The Russians" excuse.

But, the election of Trump proves you're wrong on this. It's the same people between the 2 liberal coasts that put Trump in office that grew tired of ESPN's coastal liberal SJW bullshit.

I live in Alabama... this is an Alabama message board... Alabama is like 90% red... im one of the few liberals on this board... boy, thats a shocker... and its funny Ive been this way for years despite all of you attempting to shout me down anytime I dare to spit out an opinion different from yours...

The election Trump proves me wrong about the fact that cord cutting is what is killing ESPN... boy your logic is absolutely flawless... especially considering about three times as many people DIDN'T vote for Trump than did... you literally used every buzz word that I would expect Sean Hannity to spew "SJW' "the two liberal coasts" "Trump proves you wrong" "The Russians excuse"... shocked you didnt use snowflake, ya little snowflake.

And I love that when I post something to point to the reasoning behind ESPN's hurt being cord cutting thats somehow "smoke screen." You cant point to any proof of it being your invisible "conservative revolution" other than articles from places like The Federalist lmao

I'm not sure where, or how, to start. How secluded is this world you live in?

Let me ask ya something. Did you bitch about the spiritual angle of Tim Tebow?
Prime Rocks. Period.

Bitch about what spiritual angle? Tebow shoving his religion down everyones throat? Hated it but didnt stop me from watching anything... especially considering Tebow was an athlete not an analyst. I never once bitched about being an analyst because I never hear him shill his religion as one. I have no clue what that has to do with you overstating how many people have actually cancelled ESPN due to some "liberal bias" that barely anyone even looks or gives a shit about. 90% of people that have ESPN have it for the games and Sportscenter, thats it.

 

[JoshB]

“There have been some losses due to cord-cutting,” ESPN president John Skipper told Variety. “ESPN has been hit doubly hard by this trend because some consumers have been trading down to smaller packages that don’t include ESPN.”