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c5vetman

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Thoughts?

To tell the truth, I haven't read anything on the barn much lately, other than they need to get some offense, so does anyone think they'll get beat?
 
c5vetman said:
Thoughts?

To tell the truth, I haven't read anything on the barn much lately, other than they need to get some offense, so does anyone think they'll get beat?
AU should win this one, but i don't see it being a blowout. even though USM played a cream puff for their opener, their offense was still rather impressive. i know one guy i forgot about was WR DeAndre Brown who was a 5* in the 08 signing class. they have some talent, just not alot and their new coach is looking to make a name for himself. AU will probably only win by about 2 TD and the fanbase will become increasingly critical of Franklin's offense.
 
Despite its offensive uncertainties, aubrun still has a strong defense. They should win Saturday.

The Expert, however, thinks otherwise.

RTR,

Tim
 
Anything's possible but some more than others and this would not be one of those things. My guess is the barn explodes on yet another weak opponent. I just don't feel SM is the same since Bowers left.

I also didn't think Vandy would beat SC 2 years in a row but anything possible.

I also don't care. :lol:

RTR
 
They both run pass happy spread offenses. Franklin's offense is great for high school, but it won't last week in and week out in the SEC. I think Auburn's D will dominate SM and the offense will score enough points to win. I agree, Auburn by 2 touchdowns, maybe 3.
 
I'm watching this one...simply because I want to see if there is any improvement in their passing attack. They are going to have to start working on that if they expect any success against LSU in 2 weeks.
 
Red_Tsunami said:
They both run pass happy spread offenses. Franklin's offense is great for high school, but it won't last week in and week out in the SEC.
Sounds vaguely familiar to what was spoken about the 'popgun' offense Urban Meyer was bringing back East with him from Utah.

No way that gimmicky offense was going to work when it faced the better athletes on the defensive side of the ball in the SEC.

What was their scoring average last year? 40-plus points a game or so? Damn, I would hate to see what they would do with all those athletes down here if they ran a 'real college offense.'

That said, this Allbarn team does not have the athletes UF does - and may never (heck UF may never again have a roster full of offensive weapons like now). But the name of the game for an offensive coordinator (and this is where Homer Smith excelled - at least when Stallings did not pitch a hissy fit and hamstring Smith) is to get the ball to a player in space and with as few defenders around him as possible.

I like the basic concept of 'the spread' in that you force defenders to cover the entire width of the field virtually every play. So right there you immediately get 1) one-on-one coverage on the edge receivers or 2) safeties and OLBs out of the box.

Now, you have to have the horses to make it work, but I had rather have a 5.10-185 RB one-on-one with an SEC LBer than a 6.02-230 RB one-on-two SEC LBers. Unless maybe if that bigger back is Herschel Walker circa-UGa.
 
USM always plays Bama and Auburn tuff. A lot of guys who wanted to play for Bama or Auburn and were not picked so they out to prove something. Auburn has more talent but emotions are on the side of USM. I like USM to pull the upset. Especially since it is early game and chance that Auburn comes out flat. I see this as a test of Auburn's desire to win. If not there it is a long season for the Barners and team might start coming apart. If they handle USM then they are for real. JMO.
 
Sounds vaguely familiar to what was spoken about the 'popgun' offense Urban Meyer was bringing back East with him from Utah.

It does, but I wasn't one of those. I knew his spread would work. Meyer's system leans more toward the spread option or power spread. His system and Franklin's are not the same. Both use the zone read, yes, but Meyer seems to use a run first approach. The basic principles (spread the field to create matchups) are the same but that is about as far as it goes.
 
If Southern Miss plays the barn like they play us, they will win, imo. I hear two more awbrin players are quitting this week. How many is that to date now? Some say it is due to injuries and a player's well-being. The players actually say there is division amongst the team due to the the new OC and the duel QB situation. Southern Miss is in a good position to sneak up on 'em. Roll eagles...or whatever they say over there.
 
Of Course, Southern Miss has a chance, b/c they are playing Division 1 Football!!!

They have the ability to score points in bunches and that could spell trouble for an Auburn team who still depends on defense and special teams to get by.

In this game, they will have to play much better offensively, b/c Southern Miss has much more talent than ULM had.
 
aMAZEnFan said:
Of Course, Southern Miss has a chance, b/c they are playing Division 1 Football!!!

They have the ability to score points in bunches and that could spell trouble for an Auburn team who still depends on defense and special teams to get by.

In this game, they will have to play much better offensively, b/c Southern Miss has much more talent than ULM had.



Sou Miss is a study in Trickle Down Economics of College football. They have a lot of players who were *almost* good enough to play for SEC teams, and those players resent the *almost* label.
 
Big_Fan said:
aMAZEnFan said:
Of Course, Southern Miss has a chance, b/c they are playing Division 1 Football!!!

They have the ability to score points in bunches and that could spell trouble for an Auburn team who still depends on defense and special teams to get by.

In this game, they will have to play much better offensively, b/c Southern Miss has much more talent than ULM had.



Sou Miss is a study in Trickle Down Economics of College football. They have a lot of players who were *almost* good enough to play for SEC teams, and those players resent the *almost* label.

DeAndre' Brown is good enough to play on any team in the the SEC or the NCAA for that matter. Grades bit him in the ass. That's another match-up I'm looking forward to watching considering the youth in the Auburn secondary.
 
Red_Tsunami said:
It does, but I wasn't one of those. I knew his spread would work. Meyer's system leans more toward the spread option or power spread. His system and Franklin's are not the same. Both use the zone read, yes, but Meyer seems to use a run first approach. The basic principles (spread the field to create matchups) are the same but that is about as far as it goes.
A long time back, when Franklin was first hired there was some discussion here about the new offense.

It was my opinion then, and it remains the same today, that Tubberville would not allow the system to abandon the power run game you correctly identified in Meyer's system. It is just not in Tubberville's coaching DNA to go with a pass-happy attack where the OLmen are always pocket-protecting instead of hitting someone in the mouth.

I thought, and think, he will increase the passing some, but only to establish enough credibility that defenses have to go more nickle (puts smaller guys on the field) or take more defenders out of the box. When either of those happen, he will institute the old power game, albeit from a more wide open formation.

The first question is does Allbarn have enough talent at the QB and WR positions to make the passing game a sufficient threat to achieve either of those two goals. If so, they certainly have enough talent RBs to make the power ground game go.

The next question would be, would Franklin, who is a Hal Mumme spread-type guy, be comfortable running such a more conservative system and not revert too much in-game back to his normal balance of run-pass - especially if the run game is not producing explosive plays early on. I really do not know enough to make a stab-in-the-dark on that point - much less an educated guess. And, in the long run, would he even wait to stay at Allbarn being hamstrung so. On the latter, it depends, I guess, on if any hardware is won at the end of the year or not. (And given Allbarn is involved, they give out rings for such things as 'best team on the field the first two weeks in October' so that might not be hard to achieve - or they can get the little high school boy in Opelike (sic?) to charge up his little Commodore 64 PC and tabulate the People's National Championship thingy again.)
 
USM's HC Larry Fedora has a pretty good offensive mind. He was the OC at UF with Zook...was probably the star of that entire staff. I would not be surprised if it's close in the fourth quarter.
 
Alagator said

The first question is does Allbarn have enough talent at the QB and WR positions to make the passing game a sufficient threat to achieve either of those two goals. If so, they certainly have enough talent RBs to make the power ground game go.

I don't think they have the receivers on hand to make Franklin's attack work. Their receivers were pretty mediocre last year, and they didn't exactly sign a bunch of Julio's. As far as their QB situation, Todd can't make many plays with his feet. It remains to be seen if Burns can pass well in this offense.
 
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