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IMO....I see that as the same situation, he canned the police and replaced them with the "Brown Shirts"... his own people as you say. These folks today that want to defund police will want the void filled with what, do you think?

Not really the same though as HItler didn't get rid of the police force at all. Hitler purposefully filled empty positions with people who would carry out his laws more easily (honestly similar to how we do things with the War on Drugs in some places). These folks want to get rid of police completely and replace them with the community just watching out for itself. Completely opposite position.
 
Not really the same though as HItler didn't get rid of the police force at all. Hitler purposefully filled empty positions with people who would carry out his laws more easily (honestly similar to how we do things with the War on Drugs in some places). These folks want to get rid of police completely and replace them with the community just watching out for itself. Completely opposite position.

Are they gonna snitch...if not, all of this is pointless. Countless examples.
 
Not really the same though as HItler didn't get rid of the police force at all. Hitler purposefully filled empty positions with people who would carry out his laws more easily (honestly similar to how we do things with the War on Drugs in some places). These folks want to get rid of police completely and replace them with the community just watching out for itself. Completely opposite position.
I see eerily similar starting points from both times, but that’s just me, probably a paranoid old man...but, beer is good, media sux and so does Auburn.😁
 

“Any recommendation on a pathway toward a safe return to sport will depend on the national trajectory of COVID-19 spread,” said Brian Hainline, NCAA chief medical officer. “The idea of sport resocialization is predicated on a scenario of reduced or flattened infection rates.”

Even you if hate them, wear your masks! Roll Tide!
I’m gonna have to get a bigger mask, can’t hardly get the one I have now around my waist. :p
 
Ha, yet some on here would have you think playing football is a selfish desire because the players, who are under 24, are at some high risk of dying.

l‘ve never heard anyone say that, and I doubt you have either. Spread has always been the fear and by July, I would think everyone would know that.
 
l‘ve never heard anyone say that, and I doubt you have either. Spread has always been the fear and by July, I would think everyone would know that.

So "protecting our athletes" and "our athletes are our #1 concern" has never been uttered? Yeah, we've all heard it.

On another note, you think it would magically stop spreading without football? Even with it they aren't feeling the affects. Spreading it to the fans? That's on the fans for attending, so the athletes shouldn't be penalized. Most likely we have all come across the virus at this point. You think you're lucky enough at this point to have not come across an airborne virus ravaging the world?
 
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Ha, yet some on here would have you think playing football is a selfish desire because the players, who are under 24, are at some high risk of dying.
So "protecting our athletes" and "our athletes are our #1 concern" has never been uttered? Yeah, we've all heard it.
Those are the same thing and I took you're earlier comment as more tongue in cheek than factual.

However... what's he saying here? He's certainly implying something heinous.

Just why are we doing this?
The flip response, rarely said out loud: Money. Under the umbrella of the N.C.A.A., college athletics is an $18 billion enterprise, with schools generating about $10 billion in revenue. And football is the primary moneymaker, especially at places like Ohio State, where the athletics budget surpasses $200 million a year.
“I don’t want to cast aspersions on motives,” the University of Washington epidemiologist Steve Mooney said of the sports world, “but I don’t know if they have my best interests in mind.”
 
Those are the same thing and I took you're earlier comment as more tongue in cheek than factual.

However... what's he saying here? He's certainly implying something heinous.

Just why are we doing this?
The flip response, rarely said out loud: Money. Under the umbrella of the N.C.A.A., college athletics is an $18 billion enterprise, with schools generating about $10 billion in revenue. And football is the primary moneymaker, especially at places like Ohio State, where the athletics budget surpasses $200 million a year.
“I don’t want to cast aspersions on motives,” the University of Washington epidemiologist Steve Mooney said of the sports world, “but I don’t know if they have my best interests in mind.”

As I have stated before, economically the United States won't survive no college football. The small towns, businesses, university employees, and third party companies hired to work the game that benefit would just be wiped out. We've talked many a times about the impact a game has on Tuscaloosa, a town now built for Saturday's. Would hate to see the town after no football in the Fall. This is where we have also spoken before about a point of no return. All of those million dollar penthouses being built and for sale, condos, hotels, restaurants, and everything else built during this latest Saban boom were teetering on nonsense, and now with one swift wind it could all falter.

At this point I don't even think the best doctors in the world could explain this virus and give you an accurate depiction of what has happened. So how can one truly have the best interest of someone when they don't even know what they are truly fighting from a statistical standpoint? Maybe he feels he isn't being thought about if they have a season, but he's also not the only one within this equation. Someone will feel slighted, it all depends of varying factors.
 
As I have stated before, economically the United States won't survive no college football. The small towns, businesses, university employees, and third party companies hired to work the game that benefit would just be wiped out. We've talked many a times about the impact a game has on Tuscaloosa, a town now built for Saturday's. Would hate to see the town after no football in the Fall. This is where we have also spoken before about a point of no return. All of those million dollar penthouses being built and for sale, condos, hotels, restaurants, and everything else built during this latest Saban boom were teetering on nonsense, and now with one swift wind it could all falter.

At this point I don't even think the best doctors in the world could explain this virus and give you an accurate depiction of what has happened. So how can one truly have the best interest of someone when they don't even know what they are truly fighting from a statistical standpoint? Maybe he feels he isn't being thought about if they have a season, but he's also not the only one within this equation. Someone will feel slighted, it all depends of varying factors.

We absolutely will survive without college football for a season.
 
As I have stated before, economically the United States won't survive no college football. The small towns, businesses, university employees, and third party companies hired to work the game that benefit would just be wiped out. We've talked many a times about the impact a game has on Tuscaloosa, a town now built for Saturday's. Would hate to see the town after no football in the Fall. This is where we have also spoken before about a point of no return. All of those million dollar penthouses being built and for sale, condos, hotels, restaurants, and everything else built during this latest Saban boom were teetering on nonsense, and now with one swift wind it could all falter.

At this point I don't even think the best doctors in the world could explain this virus and give you an accurate depiction of what has happened. So how can one truly have the best interest of someone when they don't even know what they are truly fighting from a statistical standpoint? Maybe he feels he isn't being thought about if they have a season, but he's also not the only one within this equation. Someone will feel slighted, it all depends of varying factors.

You make some great points about how many people are connected financially to college football.... And it's not just big business, lots of mom & pop shops NEED it to thrive, or more accurately survive.

But even assuming college football happens this Fall, how much will fans actually be involved? My guess is minimally, if at all. So from that perspective, those small businesses and many part time income opportunities are hosed regardless.

This whole deal is complicated for so many reasons. The fact that it's become a huge political issue is not beneficial either. I was on your side a couple months ago in terms of optimism for a season, mostly because of the financial impact, but when you consider how many hurdles need to be jumped.... And how politicized any negative effect is.... I'm extremely pessimistic. :mad:
 
Yes. That's obvious. But clearly not what was said.

Actually I did say that as well as implying it. "We've talked many a times about the impact a game has on Tuscaloosa, a town now built for Saturday's." Plus the other times I have spoken about small college towns across the country.

And last time I checked "you" weren't in a college town relying on its seasons to make your bill payments. So the country may make it, but not without seriously fracturing the heart of American taxpayers.
 
You make some great points about how many people are connected financially to college football.... And it's not just big business, lots of mom & pop shops NEED it to thrive, or more accurately survive.

But even assuming college football happens this Fall, how much will fans actually be involved? My guess is minimally, if at all. So from that perspective, those small businesses and many part time income opportunities are hosed regardless.

This whole deal is complicated for so many reasons. The fact that it's become a huge political issue is not beneficial either. I was on your side a couple months ago in terms of optimism for a season, mostly because of the financial impact, but when you consider how many hurdles need to be jumped.... And how politicized any negative effect is.... I'm extremely pessimistic. :mad:


I agree with you. My point was to be 100% open to whomever may want to participate in attending though. My guess is if they let the free market decide, business would boom. But yes, these folks are pretty much screwed with any models being discussed, so I am in total agreement there, and that stinks for a lot of reasons. I just hate those that have spent decades in Tuscaloosa seeing property tax rates jump and expenses jump as well due to the revitalizations, and they were just making enough to get by and can't afford one offseason.
 
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