🏈 Cash sought for Cam Newton

I never said anything about Joe Schad or the media. I just said it sounds like a bunch of rumors right now. Calm down.

Yes IF its true it will be bad for Auburn. Right now its just talk.

Joe Schad also reported that Stoops had officially signed on to coach at Notre Dame last year. Just sayin...

It seems at time that Cecil Newton may well be an issue. That being said, Cecil asking for money from Mississippi State (if that is proven to be true) does NOT impact Cameron or his status at Auburn. As long as Cameron and Cecil didn't ACCEPT money, no NCAA rule was violated, his eligibility is not in question--his dad just looks like a douche bag.

I will say I am sorely tired of reading Joe Schad sources quoting several sources who quote several sources. Names? Paper trails? Receipts? Evidence at all?
 
How great would it be if during the Auburn game every time CAM NEWTON ran or passed the ball, that Monopoly "Money" fell from the sky. Swirling around the inside of Bryant- Denny. 101,000 people tossing that stuff would be classic

No but Auburn this year has taken to spending the night ina hotel here in Montgomery. We could always go downtown and sprinkle it from the exit to the bus......just so they don't get lost.
I may actually do that this week. lol
 
...Cecil asking for money from Mississippi State (if that is proven to be true) does NOT impact Cameron or his status at Auburn. As long as Cameron and Cecil didn't ACCEPT money, no NCAA rule was violated, his eligibility is not in question... Names? Paper trails? Receipts? Evidence at all?

If it is proven Cecil asked for money from Mississippi St., then Pandora's box would be opened. That would, in essence prove that there was an attempt to sell Cam. Since ultimately Cam/Cecil presumably did not accept money from Miss. St. because Miss. St. was unable/unwilling to pay what it took to get his signature - what prompted him to sign with Auburn?

Assuming that WAS true (for the sake of discussion), the NCAA would then have to ask the question; Did they also try to sell Cam's services to Auburn?

Even if they did, that doesn't really prove that Auburn paid Cam. It is possible that Auburn - like Miss. St. - was also unwilling to pay. At that point, Cam/Cecil could have come to the conclusion that their efforts to get money weren't going to work and they should just go with the school that gave him the best chance to make money at the next level - the NFL - albeit a year or so later.

The more I find out about Newton's sordid past prior to coming to Auburn, the more it's clear that Auburn would have been committing suicide if they had offered Newton dirty money. More and more, it looks like a case of overinflated media hype. The parties involved all clammed up, the media wanted more dirt, so they decided to inflate the story as much as possible with a negative slant in an attempt to get Cam/Cecil to come forward with more information and 'set the record straight'.

I'm sure there's more to the story than has been told by the Newton's. However, the details could simply shed more light on their bumbling inability to successfully extort money than anything else.
 
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If it is proven Cecil asked for money from Mississippi St., then Pandora's box would be opened. That would, in essence prove that there was an attempt to sell Cam. Since ultimately Cam/Cecil presumably did not accept money from Miss. St. because Miss. St. was unable/unwilling to pay what it took to get his signature - what prompted him to sign with Auburn?

Assuming that WAS true (for the sake of discussion), the NCAA would then have to ask the question; Did they also try to sell Cam's services to Auburn?

Even if they did, that doesn't really prove that Auburn paid Cam. It is possible that Auburn - like Miss. St. - was also unwilling to pay. At that point, Cam/Cecil could have come to the conclusion that their efforts to get money weren't going to work and they should just go with the school that gave him the best chance to make money at the next level - the NFL - albeit a year or so later.

The more I find out about Newton's sordid past prior to coming to Auburn, the more it's clear that Auburn would have been committing suicide if they had offered Newton dirty money. More and more, it looks like a case of overinflated media hype. The parties involved all clammed up, the media wanted more dirt, so they decided to inflate the story as much as possible with a negative slant in an attempt to get Cam/Cecil to come forward with more information and 'set the record straight'.

I'm sure there's more to the story than has been told by the Newton's. However, the details could simply shed more light on their bumbling inability to successfully extort money than anything else.

I'm reminded of the rant of the wronged aubrun coach's wife after TT was dismissed. Part of it went along the lines of "if you want to go back to the time of paying players, that's exactly where you're headed."
 
If it is proven Cecil asked for money from Mississippi St., then Pandora's box would be opened. That would, in essence prove that there was an attempt to sell Cam. Since ultimately Cam/Cecil presumably did not accept money from Miss. St. because Miss. St. was unable/unwilling to pay what it took to get his signature - what prompted him to sign with Auburn?

Assuming that WAS true (for the sake of discussion), the NCAA would then have to ask the question; Did they also try to sell Cam's services to Auburn?

Even if they did, that doesn't really prove that Auburn paid Cam. It is possible that Auburn - like Miss. St. - was also unwilling to pay. At that point, Cam/Cecil could have come to the conclusion that their efforts to get money weren't going to work and they should just go with the school that gave him the best chance to make money at the next level - the NFL - albeit a year or so later.

The more I find out about Newton's sordid past prior to coming to Auburn, the more it's clear that Auburn would have been committing suicide if they had offered Newton dirty money. More and more, it looks like a case of overinflated media hype. The parties involved all clammed up, the media wanted more dirt, so they decided to inflate the story as much as possible with a negative slant in an attempt to get Cam/Cecil to come forward with more information and 'set the record straight'.

I'm sure there's more to the story than has been told by the Newton's. However, the details could simply shed more light on their bumbling inability to successfully extort money than anything else.

My guess is, and maybe I'm wrong, if there were actual proof it would've surfaced by now. I keep hearing grumblings about these "tapes". Some sites say it was recorded by MSU, others say the Newtons recorded it to catch State offering money. Some sources say Cam's comment about the "money being too much" refer to his father not feeling comfortable taking the money, others say it refers to the cost of Cecil traveling to the games. Some sources say the Cecil comment about "more than a scholarship" refers to money, some sites say that it refers to a "program that will allow him to grow as a person and an athlete, mentor him so he grows from the stupid mistakes of his past and provide him the best chance to get to the next level."

Every one of those scenarios seem entirely plausible. The truth is I have no damn idea what happened. Honestly, I doubt any of us will ever know what happened in its entirety. You are probably dead-on about the sources clamming up so the media outlets began adding embellishment to make it a story. I just can't believe that Bob Stoops would publicly come out and lie by saying the Newtons never asked him for money and he was never approached by an agent. With Cam having a relationship with Mullen I sincerely doubt the Newtons only asked for money from MSU. Auburn, of course, denies it. Stoops voluntarily said it didn't happen. Hell, even Lane Kiffin released a statement saying when the Vols were recruiting him that no one asked for money. I'd like to know what MSU means by "recruiters" since they are required to only allow coaches to recruit. The more info that gets released it becomes painfully obvious either Mississippi State or Auburn are incredibly guilty and incredibly stupid. Perhaps this is me looking through my orange and blue glasses, but it looks like State has more and more egg on their face by the day.

Who knows. Maybe someone paid him, maybe they didn't. All I know is that as of now the NCAA has all of the documents they've requested and they have not suggested or required Auburn to sit Newton. From an Auburn fan's perspective, that is promising. In the post-Bush era, the NCAA has been swift to say someone should sit. UNC, Dareus, Green, etc. and to date we have gotten no such suggestion. Also, for the record--Auburn does not have a LOI as there have been no accusations that Auburn did anything wrong. Regardless of what happened with Mississippi State, it appears Auburn is safe. It may taint Newton's image but the agent he supposedly worked with has said he has no idea what they're talking about. If Cecil asked for money, hell if Cam asked for money, yes--they look like dicks (am I allowed to say that here?) but ultimately eligibility isn't in question.

There is just one piece of information that I really cannot wrap my head around. IF this is true and Cam Newton made a tear-filled phone call to Mississippi State to apologize for not upholding his commitment, why wouldn't he have called Mullen? The report says he called "a recruiter". His relationship and thus any sense of loyalty would be to Mullen, not State. Also, there was NEVER a commitment. State fans went crazy on message boards saying they had a silent commit and he was going to announce after his last game at Blinn, but his recruiting never stopped. And if State's assertion that they backed off when the request came in for loot, why were they still recruiting him up until the day he signed his LOI? The stuff I just mentioned makes ZERO sense to me.

Oh well, here's to hoping none of it is true
 
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Kenny Rogers has stopped his denial and now admits Cecil Newton asked for money.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2010/11/kenny_rogers_says_he_witnessed.html
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So Auburn can now stop trying to sell the “someone is just out to get Cam” angle. The only story they have left to tell is that Cecil got so mad MSU refused to pay, he sent Cam to AU for free instead. That’s a fairy tale worthy of Lewis Carroll.<o:p></o:p>
 
As I was taking my morning walk here this morning in Omaha, Nebraska, I was listening on the earphone to the local sports/talk station, 1110 AM Radio. The announcer said during the sports section that evidence is in hand for the sleezy, (my words) quarterback of Auburn and his father, saying the following, "The went to Auburn because the MONEY WAS BETTER!" That report really got my attention--and, so I am passing it on to all of you. At the close of the report, it was mentioned that this was said to be standard practice for SEC schools!! That really got me mad because my beloved Bama went on probation for several years because of money matters in Tennesse. THIS REPORT REALLY MAKES ME ANGRY! I hope that Newton gets what coming to him if these things are true. His record at Florida is bad enough; and, now these ugly charges. I hope that Bama beats the stuffings out of Auburn in the Iron Bowl. The local Iowa State fans hate the Auburn coach as he left them, lying to them about his intentions until the last moment. I will have a big cheering section for Bama for the Iron Bowl. Just checking in from exile here in Nebraska. Fr. Vern. Roll Tide!
 
:nopity:That's right Big Al. I agree completely. What i cant understand is do they need the brick wall to fall on em before they sit his but down or are they just continuing to turn a deaf ear? Its really starting to point to one person and if true,he got his kid in a world of hurt. Thats my opinion.
 

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