🏈 Cash sought for Cam Newton

Once again, I believe they are defending their own like they should. If they sat back and said nothing, I think it would tend to lead one to think that they are hiding more than has been brought out. If anything, get on them for maybe not stepping out sooner when the allegations began to fly.
 
whoever spoke up from Florida more than likely broke privacy rules - believe someone else has mentioned this already.

this isn't good for the SEC...this will only backfire on whoever opened their mouth. completely uncalled for in my opinion.
 
Whoever spoke up from Florida apparently lied...

http://auburn.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1150363

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FoxSports.com writer Thayer Evans published a story today alleging Auburn quarterback Cameron Newton "had three different instances of academic cheating while attending the University of Florida."

According to Evans, "Newton was to appear for a hearing in front of Florida's Student Conduct Committee during the spring semester of 2009 but instead transferred to Blinn College. The committee could have levied sanctions against Newton that included suspension and expulsion from the university."

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</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>Alleged wrongdoings by Cameron Newton while at Florida was never sent to the Florida Student Conduct Committee.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- End Cameron Newton 200 (119) Image-->The story follows several days of editorial attacks on Newton by Evans, a former stringer for the New York Times.

Two independent sources with detailed knowledge of the UF academic discipline system during the period in question have disputed the Evans story. According to the sources, no allegations of academic impropriety regarding Cam Newton were sent to the Florida Student Conduct Committee at any time either during or after Newton's time at UF.

"Nothing was reported, officially or unofficially" says one source, who did not wish to be identified. "The formal process is for allegations to go through the Student Conduct Committee. If [any allegations against Newton] didn't follow that process, then they didn't follow the rules."

Newton enrolled at Florida in the spring of 2007 and transferred to Blinn College in January of 2009.

Per the source, no charges against Newton were ever brought to the Student Conduct Committee during that time.

The source also indicated that no Florida football players have ever been officially reported to the UF Student Conduct Committee for academic violations during Urban Meyer's tenure.

According to the source, student arrests are subject to additional discipline via the Student Conduct Committee, but it is not uncommon for students in such situations "to cut a deal with the Dean of Students' office before coming to the Committee."

At the time of Newton's enrollment at UF, if attempts to informally settle academic disputes failed, academic violations issues were referred from the Dean of Students office to the Student Conduct Committee, where a hearing chaired by a member of the UF Honor Board would be conducted.

No charges against Newton, to the first source's knowledge, were ever sent to the UF Student Conduct Committee.

A second, independently verified source, also with detailed knowledge of the Florida student disciplinary system, took issue with Evans' assertion that Newton, had he actually been charged with academic misconduct, would have been in danger of expulsion. "I worked ten or twelve cases," the second source says, "and I never saw anyone get expelled."

The second source, who also declined to be identified, also says no charges regarding Newton were ever brought to the Student Conduct Committee, noting, "If Cameron Newton would have come before the committee, we would have known about it."

The second source also expressed indignation over the possible leak of student information to the media.

"That is completely confidential. We're not allowed to say anything to anyone.

"The person that was in charge of [students'] academic records is a very ethical person. Someone like him would never have released anything."


Justin Hokanson contributed to this report.
 
holy crap...tired of Newton, Newton, Newton.

thats all, I've posted my comments in several threads, but damn I'm tired of talking about him. I'm done.

can we move all this crap to a different forum...as in an Auburn forum?
 
I can't find the link, but I heard on the radio this morning that according to Greg Doyel of cbssports.com, Urban Meyer is the source.

If his is true, this make Urban out to be a very small, vindictive man with even more issues than we thought.
The only reason he would have to be bringing this out now would be a vendetta against Newton for leaving.

Doyel article and link below...

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/14267701/consider-the-source-on-newton-story

If it's all the same to you, I'm going to believe in the eligibility of Cam Newton. I'm going to believe in Auburn. I'm not going to believe in the sanctity of college football, because my naïveté goes only so far, but I am going to believe in the eligibility -- until proven otherwise -- of Newton, the best player in college football.
Why would I do such a thing now, with the world coming down on Newton like a condemned building? Because after Reggie Bush lost his Heisman, and after Butch Davis had an agent's runner on his coaching staff, and after Marcell Dareus and Marvin Austin and Weslye Saunders, I'm tired of believing in slime.
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And, in a possibly related sentence, I'm not prepared to believe in John Bond.
Or in ESPN.com. Or in The New York Times.
Bond is the former Mississippi State quarterback being held up by ESPN.com and the Times as a trustworthy source, and he may well be that. But to me, he looks like a Mississippi State booster. Why would I trust a Mississippi State booster on such a damaging story about Newton -- who chose Auburn after spurning Mississippi State?
I wouldn't. Not yet. It's way too soon to trust John Bond. I'm still trying to figure out who he is, and why he figures into this story in the first place. I mean, I know who he was. He was a quarterback at Mississippi State in the early 1980s and later a graduate assistant coach at Mississippi State. And then he went to work in construction, for a company that has built game-day condos near the Mississippi State football stadium.
So who is John Bond? He's a Mississippi State guy who feels he has done enough talking for now. Bond had his attorney, Phil Abernathy of Jackson, Miss., call me Monday to decline comment for this story.
But Abernathy did tell me one thing. Well, he implied one thing. He implied that ESPN.com and The New York Times made an enormous error in their stories -- the same error, it turns out. And it's an error so large that, if this were a court of law, the case against Cam Newton would be thrown out in a hail of laughter.
Before I tell you the error, let me tell you the background:
Last week, Bond told ESPN.com and the Times that someone claiming to represent Newton had offered him to Mississippi State for a large sum of money, back when Newton was in junior college during the 2009-10 school year. ESPN.com and the Times reported that the middle man in question, the guy trying to sell Newton to Bond, was Bond's former teammate at Mississippi State, Kenny Rogers.
That would be a first-hand witness, speaking on the record, about a major NCAA violation. Short of a paper trail, that would be some damning evidence.
If it were accurate.
But it's not.

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</TD><TD width=15> </TD></TR><TR><TD width=280>This isn't about annointing Newton for sainthood, just about getting the facts straight. (Getty Images) </TD><TD width=15> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>"John Bond never named Kenny Rogers," Abernathy told me, implying that ESPN.com and The New York Times had erred in their reporting.

But don't take Abernathy's implication for it. I can do better than a stinking implication. The day after ESPN.com and the Times pinned their expose of Cam Newton's recruitment to a conversation between Rogers and Bond, that conversation was torpedoed -- by Bond himself. He went on a radio show in Atlanta on Friday and confessed that Kenny Rogers had never asked him for money for Cam Newton.
Read that sentence again.
Here's what Bond told the WCNN radio show, Buck and Kincade, when he was asked about getting an offer from Rogers:
"Actually, there were two people in between it but, basically, yes, that's what happened."
Actually, there were two people in between Rogers and Bond?
Actually?
Bond isn't a source -- he's a gossip. He doesn't have information. He has a rumor. He's the fourth person in a game of telephone tag that started with Rogers -- allegedly -- and went through two other people before landing in the lap of Mississippi State devotee John Bond.
And that's enough to throw Cam Newton and Auburn under the bus?
No. Of course it's not. Even if you're an Alabama fan, you have to see this for the unfair sucker punch that it is. ESPN.com and the Times probably owe Newton a retraction and an apology. They definitely owe an updated story explaining that their source, John Bond, wasn't giving first-hand information but was spreading fourth-hand gossip.
While we're waiting for that, and for pigs to fly ...
Heisman voters should vote for Cam Newton, and Top 25 pollsters should vote for Auburn, with no regrets. Look, something illegal may well have happened involving Cam Newton's recruitment. I'm not so naïve, so stubbornly bent on believing in Newton, that I refuse to accept that possibility. But I do refuse to accept the reporting of ESPN.com and the Times. They took a rumor, now reaching its fifth layer -- the reporters themselves -- and used it to bury Cam Newton.
And some fools believed every word of it. Read this utter nonsense -- 750 words of non sequiturs, one after another -- for an example of the blind following the blind. That story was so bad, so baldly unfair, that it was rewarded by someone at the University of Florida with a scoop: Cam Newton, allegedly, was accused several times of academic cheating while at Florida.
And maybe he did cheat while at Florida. I'm not here to tell you Cam Newton is a choir boy. In fact, for the sake of argument, I'll concede the point simply to make this larger point:
In the grand scheme of things, as the world is being asked to consider John Bond's fourth-hand "information" about Kenny Rogers, Newton's academics at Florida are immaterial.
But this smear job now has escalated to the point where Florida isn't even pretending to stay out of it. It's no coincidence that Bond's "information" -- which he shared almost 10 months ago with Mississippi State -- is coming out now that Florida has fallen by the wayside while Auburn has surged to No. 2 in the BCS. Even before the latest academic allegations came out, Meyer was said to be in the middle of the Bond-Newton saga.
Now, it's official. Newton's academic record at Florida could have been leaked any number of ways, but the most obvious way -- the most transparent -- was for it to come from Florida. So that's what I believe.
But now I want to know more. I want to know what the University of Florida is going to do about the apparent leak of academic information about one of its former students. That's a federal crime, and as a UF graduate, I want answers.
Also, I want an answer to this question: What did Meyer sidekick Dan Mullen, the Mississippi State coach once expected to sign Newton out of junior college, have to do with the John Bond leak?
As for me, I want to know more about John Bond. Who is he? What role does he play at Mississippi State? And why should anybody believe his gossip?

For more from Gregg Doyel, check him out on Twitter: @greggdoyelcbs
 
This "rumor" doesn't necessarily pass the sniff test with me either. Call me a homer, say I'm spinning, I don't care. This is horse sh... and it is growing more apparent by the day.

1. UF says they know NOTHING about this.
2. If this were true, federal privacy laws of have violated.
3. When has anyone in college EVER turned in a paper that had their name written on it?
4. If Cam were under academic investigation, he wouldn't have been released to transfer, certainly not with his credits in tow. So how then was Cam able to transfer to a JUCO and then transfer back to Auburn as a junior? For those that are not familiar with the process, the NCAA must clear players academically before they are allowed to participate. If anyone else here has ever been involved in the recruiting process you'll know what I'm talking about.

This is absolutely absurd. This is a smear campaign, nothing more. For those that have had a problem with Chizik and Jacobs weighing in on this, what the hell do you expect them to do? Sit idle as one of their own is dragged through the mud? Would you prefer they come out and call agents pimps? If this were an Alabama player you guys would be up in arms about this. The people responsible for this should be ashamed of themselves. Yes, he bought a stolen laptop--we all know that and have moved on. The rumors regarding the pay-for-play are looking dumber and dumber by the day. Bond's story has completely fallen apart. What was once a direct conversation between he and Rogers has now digressed into third or fourth hand information--ya know what we call that? A RUMOR! We've all played the game in school where a message gets passed around the room and by the time it makes its round the message has completely morphed. Give me a damn break. This is a 22 year old kid who is trying to do the right things for himself and his team. He has done everything Auburn has asked of him and has been nothing but polite and forthcoming with administration.

Thayer, you're a class guy. People like you are why the human race is digressing.

Urban, please win Saturday. We'll see you in Atlanta. And oh, don't forget about your 10/15/11 date with the Tigers in Jordan-Hare. Don't bet on Cam leaving; I'm sure that date will be circled on his calendar and will weigh heavily on his decision.
 
Oh good lord. I'm too lazy to Google it but TMZ also broke the story about Ingram going to the party that the NCAA had already given him permission to attend.

Although, the link says that the FBI wants to talk to Bond, not Newton.
 
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:nana: Uh, if he was such a class act,then why does he continue to flaunt the superman pose? I believe the cape has a lot of rips in it now. And if everything was on the up and up,then why did he all of a sudden cut and run from Florida? I think there is gonna be a lot of things come to light shortly. The superman pose is really arrogant. And we all know superman has kryptonite.
 
:nana: Uh, if he was such a class act,then why does he continue to flaunt the superman pose? I believe the cape has a lot of rips in it now. And if everything was on the up and up,then why did he all of a sudden cut and run from Florida? I think there is gonna be a lot of things come to light shortly. The superman pose is really arrogant. And we all know superman has kryptonite.

Your ignorance amazes me. The information regarding why he "cut and run" from Florida has been readily available on the internet for more than a year. The new "story" has already been disproven--see the links in my earlier responses.

Also, didn't say Cam was a classy guy. He's made a mistake. As we all have. Phillip Marshall wrote an article today about his being arrested for a DUI several years ago. Judging by the standards that the media, and some fellow-board members here use, Phillip Marshall can never be trusted because he made a mistake at one point in his past. I once made a poor hiring decision, by the aforementioned standards, I can no longer be trusted to make hiring decisions. Get over it. People can change. Bama is currently recruiting a person that plead guilty to sexual battery--Google that one too. Ray Lewis was accused of murder--he is now one of the most feared and respected linebackers in the NFL. Nate Odoms was arrested for DUI before mentoring several people, myself included, at the Cornelius Bennett football camp in Hoover. Derrick Thomas had SEVERAL children by several different women--he was one of the best men I have ever met in my life. To condemn someone permanently because of one or two stupid decisions (in Cam's case, one--the only one there is any proof of. The rest of this crap is baseless accusations) is absolutely ridiculous. Newsflash, you've all made mistakes. Your sons of driven under the influence, your daughters have done things you wouldn't know about--whatever the case is we all have a past. How we respond to the challenges and adversities we experience, self-made or not, dictate who we become as people. Mistakes are only damning when you choose to dwell on them. To dwell on the mistakes of one's past and refusing to acknowledge the person they have, or will, become is just as juvenile as the mistakes made in the first place.

I'm sure I'll piss someone off with what I've said and quite frankly, I don't care. This is a kid who made a mistake three years ago, did what was necessary to have charges dropped and is working to improve himself as an athlete and a person.
 
Uh,the mistake was 2 years ago by the way and what i said was the superman pose was classless. There's too much going on for this to just be a big puff of smoke. What story has been disproven? None of them. I havent heard of anything being disproven. So, enlighten me.
 
Uh,the mistake was 2 years ago by the way and what i said was the superman pose was classless. There's too much going on for this to just be a big puff of smoke. What story has been disproven? None of them. I havent heard of anything being disproven. So, enlighten me.


Go to page two of this thread, click the links in the thread--your information is all right there. You will be enlightened. It is amazing what you can find out if you research information on your own instead of just running with what you hear on FoxSports.

Florida denies there was any academic malfeasance.

Kenny Rogers, who supposedly made the offer, said he has no idea what John Bond is talking about.

Bob Stoops said he and his staff did not experience anything out of the ordinary during Cam's recruitment. He knew of "nothing at all out of the ordinary" and the process "could not have been better." Stoops has ZERO incentive to lie. He was asked about it in a press conference. If he were approached, or anything dirty had happened, he would've refused to discuss it. Surely if State were truly asked for money for Cam's LOI, OU would've been made that same offer? Considering other schools were working of the 200K mark according to the BS story Bond spouted off to begin with.

Several sources are saying that Auburn was never approached by Kenny Rogers.

Mississippi State is the only institution saying they were approached. Why would Bob Stoops publicly, voluntarily lie? He would've stayed completely out of it. He spoke out to assist in derailing this smear campaign.

Bond has personally said that his story was not exactly the way it was reported. He provided FOURTH hand information.

Read the info above, go back and click the links. If you struggle with any big words, let someone know. I'm not making this up--I'll leave the fiction writing to the New York Times.

There was smoke regarding Julio Jones and Mark Ingram last year--I'm still waiting on that fire. Just because something is reported does not make it true. Surely anyone that has read any American news outlet in the last decade can recount at least one BS story that was written in a compelling fashion that had zero truth in it. If you cannot honestly say you've experienced that, you should probably read more.
 
Uh by the way, I have no trouble with big words at all. And dont you know by now that thats the first rule of thumb when it comes to stories like this? Deny,Deny,Deny hahahaha they all do it. im just gonna sit back and watch the show. Good luck. RTR
 

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