🏈 Can Bama Hold LSU To Under 21?

[Perdido Tide]

Im not syaing it cant happen this week, but would someone like to guess the last time LSU was held below 21 points?

 

[RollTide1980]

Im not syaing it cant happen this week, but would someone like to guess the last time LSU was held below 21 points?

Against the 'Barn in 2006; if memory serves.
They have plenty of games that were 21 on the number though.

LSU scores more than 21 most games...but they tend to give up double in the loses. If you look at the last few years, even the wins are something like 40ish-30ish.

I've noticed LSU tends to score alot...but give up a ton...especially in marquee games. 41-34 just last season against the Tide.

AnyWHO

~Bryan

 

[Perdido Tide]

True -- that was sort of my point. In big games with LSU the score tends to be high.

Btw it has been 30 games since we scored less than 21.

 

[RollTide1980]

True -- that was sort of my point. In big games with LSU the score tends to be high.

Btw it has been 30 games since we scored less than 21.

I understand what you mean...and the facts don't lie.

However, what's the point in scoring 21+ if you're gonna turn right around and give up 51 and 52 in both 2008 loses?

'Bama could lose this weekend...who knows? However, giving up 50+ in both "big games" should be a concern for the LSU defense. Especially since one of those games was at home.

~Bryan

 

[planomateo]

Btw it has been 30 games since we scored less than 21.

are you saying the past 30 games we've score 21 or more vs LSU?

 

[RollTide1980]

Btw it has been 30 games since we scored less than 21.

huh?? ...we only scored 20 vs Tulane and 17 vs Kentucky.

He's talking about the last time LSU scored less than 21.

~Bryan

 

[Guest]

True -- that was sort of my point. In big games with LSU the score tends to be high.

Btw it has been 30 games since we scored less than 21.

You get to start over after next Saturday. The only team to score over 21 (30) on Alabama this season dropped 52 on LSU. Alabama's offense grinds it out and will minimize the number of chances you get to score.

It will be interesting to see what your offense does against a defense that will not allow you to run the ball. Can LSU win with < 100 yards rushing?

 

[Perdido Tide]

True -- that was sort of my point. In big games with LSU the score tends to be high.

Btw it has been 30 games since we scored less than 21.

You get to start over after next Saturday. The only team to score over 21 (30) on Alabama this season dropped 52 on LSU. Alabama's offense grinds it out and will minimize the number of chances you get to score.

It will be interesting to see what your offense does against a defense that will not allow you to run the ball. Can LSU win with < 100 yards rushing?

I think LSU will run the ball a lot better than people think.

 

[imported_RollTideRandy]

I split this out of the "Predict the Score" thread so we can reserve that thread for those making score predictions.

 

[TerryP]

True -- that was sort of my point. In big games with LSU the score tends to be high.

Btw it has been 30 games since we scored less than 21.

You get to start over after next Saturday. The only team to score over 21 (30) on Alabama this season dropped 52 on LSU. Alabama's offense grinds it out and will minimize the number of chances you get to score.

It will be interesting to see what your offense does against a defense that will not allow you to run the ball. Can LSU win with < 100 yards rushing?

I think LSU will run the ball a lot better than people think.

I agree with that. In fact, I'd go as far to say as LSU very well could have more yards rushing than passing. The question that has to be asked is "will Crowton sticks with what is working" or will he try to bring more into the play calling than what it takes to be successful?"

As example, LSU was moving the ball well against Florida when it was in Charles Scott's hands. But, then we saw plays being called for your QB's to put the ball in the air. I recall only one drive that worked.

If I am recalling this correctly as well, the most successful passing play against UGA was one to a RB, Williams, wasn't it?

 

[Perdido Tide]

True -- that was sort of my point. In big games with LSU the score tends to be high.

Btw it has been 30 games since we scored less than 21.

You get to start over after next Saturday. The only team to score over 21 (30) on Alabama this season dropped 52 on LSU. Alabama's offense grinds it out and will minimize the number of chances you get to score.

It will be interesting to see what your offense does against a defense that will not allow you to run the ball. Can LSU win with < 100 yards rushing?

I think LSU will run the ball a lot better than people think.

I agree with that. In fact, I'd go as far to say as LSU very well could have more yards rushing than passing. The question that has to be asked is "will Crowton sticks with what is working" or will he try to bring more into the play calling than what it takes to be successful?"

As example, LSU was moving the ball well against Florida when it was in Charles Scott's hands. But, then we saw plays being called for your QB's to put the ball in the air. I recall only one drive that worked.

If I am recalling this correctly as well, the most successful passing play against UGA was one to a RB, Williams, wasn't it?

LSU's offense is tough to stop because of the amount of multiples used. However, for those formations to be successful Lee has to throw the ball, which is not always a great thing. But LSU runs the ball straight at the opponent, and I think they wil be able to do that against Bama better than most teams have.

 

[RollTide1980]

True -- that was sort of my point. In big games with LSU the score tends to be high.

Btw it has been 30 games since we scored less than 21.

You get to start over after next Saturday. The only team to score over 21 (30) on Alabama this season dropped 52 on LSU. Alabama's offense grinds it out and will minimize the number of chances you get to score.

It will be interesting to see what your offense does against a defense that will not allow you to run the ball. Can LSU win with < 100 yards rushing?

I think LSU will run the ball a lot better than people think.

I agree with that. In fact, I'd go as far to say as LSU very well could have more yards rushing than passing. The question that has to be asked is "will Crowton sticks with what is working" or will he try to bring more into the play calling than what it takes to be successful?"

As example, LSU was moving the ball well against Florida when it was in Charles Scott's hands. But, then we saw plays being called for your QB's to put the ball in the air. I recall only one drive that worked.

If I am recalling this correctly as well, the most successful passing play against UGA was one to a RB, Williams, wasn't it?

LSU's offense is tough to stop because of the amount of multiples used. However, for those formations to be successful Lee has to throw the ball, which is not always a great thing. But LSU runs the ball straight at the opponent, and I think they wil be able to do that against Bama better than most teams have.

Run the ball straight at 'Bama? Say hello to Mount Cody and his crew. Charles Scott is a good back, but LSU is gonna have to throw the ball to win this game. The ground game won't be enough to beat 'Bama.

Just my thoughts...

~Bryan

 

[Guest]

True -- that was sort of my point. In big games with LSU the score tends to be high.

Btw it has been 30 games since we scored less than 21.

You get to start over after next Saturday. The only team to score over 21 (30) on Alabama this season dropped 52 on LSU. Alabama's offense grinds it out and will minimize the number of chances you get to score.

It will be interesting to see what your offense does against a defense that will not allow you to run the ball. Can LSU win with < 100 yards rushing?

I think LSU will run the ball a lot better than people think.

Given that Florida held LSU to 80 yards, and Alabama has held common opponents to equal or fewer yards than Florida, you are making a bigger assumption than I am. Moreno had 163 yards on LSU...he had 34 on Bama.

I think LSU runs for 60-80 and throws for 150...in that ball park. I won't do a prediction until I do the trickle down column, but Bama should win by 3 TD's. They won't sleepwalk through this one...it is a "circle game" if you like that sort of language.


...and Les Nessman is a poor coach with mediocre talent evalutating skills who has run out of Saban players. When LSU hired Les I said that defense would be the first thing to go. At Oklahoma State, his defenses were terrible. It was a matter of staffing and personnel changes to do it at LSU...even Les could only coach that much talent down so far. After seeing you have 50 dropped on you twice this season, I feel rather prophet like.

 

[TerryP]

I think LSU will run the ball a lot better than people think.

I agree with that. In fact, I'd go as far to say as LSU very well could have more yards rushing than passing. The question that has to be asked is "will Crowton sticks with what is working" or will he try to bring more into the play calling than what it takes to be successful?"

As example, LSU was moving the ball well against Florida when it was in Charles Scott's hands. But, then we saw plays being called for your QB's to put the ball in the air. I recall only one drive that worked.

If I am recalling this correctly as well, the most successful passing play against UGA was one to a RB, Williams, wasn't it?

LSU's offense is tough to stop because of the amount of multiples used. However, for those formations to be successful Lee has to throw the ball, which is not always a great thing. But LSU runs the ball straight at the opponent, and I think they wil be able to do that against Bama better than most teams have.

I don't disagree with that either. It's not because I consider you guys to have better running backs than we've faced, it's because I think you have a better OL than anyone we've faced.

The position to watch it going to be your RB's versus our ILB's. I see us going into this game in our base set, with our two OLB's in two point stances on the line quite a bit.

You'll get your yards rushing...but, it's going to be those 2nd and long, 3rd and long downs that favor Bama's defense.

Here's the thing that throws such a curve ball into the count.

I also think your rushing attack was better last year for the same reasons. Last year, over 80% of your offense was through the air (in our game.) This year, our rushing defense is better than last years.

I like Scott, and see him as a better back in a lot of areas than Hester.

 

[Perdido Tide]

Run the ball straight at 'Bama? Say hello to Mount Cody and his crew. Charles Scott is a good back, but LSU is gonna have to throw the ball to win this game. The ground game won't be enough to beat 'Bama.

Just my thoughts...

~Bryan

I said better than other teams. I didnt say they would run for 200 yards.

 

[RollTide1980]

Run the ball straight at 'Bama? Say hello to Mount Cody and his crew. Charles Scott is a good back, but LSU is gonna have to throw the ball to win this game. The ground game won't be enough to beat 'Bama.

Just my thoughts...

~Bryan

I said better than other teams. I didnt say they would run for 200 yards.

I know.

Better than "other teams" is not saying much, though. Other teams haven't been able to do anything on the ground against us. It may take 200 yards if our D defends the run like they have so far.

Special teams (David) and QB (Lee) are the keys for an LSU victory. 2nd and less than 5...is your friend.

Plus, jumping on 'Bama early. I think that's the biggest key. LSU needs to force some turnovers and not let 'Bama grind the clock and control the ball.

~Bryan

 

[Tideboy]

If LSU goes to the air with a true freshman QB, they are going to get "pick sixed" at worst and int's at best. If they have to keep it on the ground, I think our DL and LB's have a field day.

I don't see LSU's O being very effective against our D....certainly not for 21 pts. I see Bama's O grinding out long drives for TD's or at least FG's with and absolutely dominating TOP.

I see us winning by more than 10 pts.

The environment won't have nearly the effect that LSU fans think it will. I can't imagine a daytime crowd more hostile than the nighttime crowd was at UGA.

 

[Guest]

Big Cody's back:Josh Chapman proved effective; Their defense isn't even half of what ours is. JPW needs to have a stellar game,Mark,Glen,and Roy need at least 100yrds. a peice. Juilo, Throw it to him! He is the best receiver I have seen in a while; his mindset is,"Get in my face I'll tear yours off and run you over"! I think the LSU defense will make a big play or two but when it all comes down we win.

Stats: John Parker Wilson 12-19, 209 yards,34 rushing yards, 4 TD's

Glen Coffee:18 rushes 198 yards 1 TD

Mark Ingram:12 rushes 102 yards

Roy Upchurch:9 rushes 97 yards 2 TD's

Julio Jones: 11 rec. 199 yards 2 TD's

Brad Smelley: 2 rec. 38 yards 2 blks.

Rolando Mclain: 3 int's 2 Tackles for loss

Big Cody: 3 TFL 1 sack

Don'ta Hightower: 2 sack 3 TFL forced fumble

final score: 42-13 Crimson Tide over the Bayou Bengals

Death(or Deaf) Valley will prove uneffective against a Bama team who went into a very hostile sanford stadium and routed then #3 Georgia.Whats one more awway crowd going to do? Answer:Nothing ROLL TIDE!!!

 

[RollTide1980]

Big Cody's back:Josh Chapman proved effective; Their defense isn't even half of what ours is. JPW needs to have a stellar game,Mark,Glen,and Roy need at least 100yrds. a peice. Juilo, Throw it to him! He is the best receiver I have seen in a while; his mindset is,"Get in my face I'll tear yours off and run you over"! I think the LSU defense will make a big play or two but when it all comes down we win.

Stats: John Parker Wilson 12-19, 209 yards,34 rushing yards, 4 TD's

Glen Coffee:18 rushes 198 yards 1 TD

Mark Ingram:12 rushes 102 yards

Roy Upchurch:9 rushes 97 yards 2 TD's

Julio Jones: 11 rec. 199 yards 2 TD's

Brad Smelley: 2 rec. 38 yards 2 blks.

Rolando Mclain: 3 int's 2 Tackles for loss

Big Cody: 3 TFL 1 sack

Don'ta Hightower: 2 sack 3 TFL forced fumble

final score: 42-13 Crimson Tide over the Bayou Bengals

No disrespect man, but those are "video game" stats bro.

If those are REALLY the stats, the score will be more like 70-6. lol

I love you're attitude, however. RTR!!!!

~Bryan

 

[Guest]

I don't knopw who you've been playin video games with but you suck! :lol: Just messin man! I just got this feelin man...And it's not a TUMS moment either