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Bamatilldeath said:
...2. Walter Lewis

???

Walter Lewis went 25-10-1. I'd have to disagree that he's even in the top 10 as far as great Alabama QB's goes. He had talent, could be very explosive at times, but he had no NC's and, as I remember, he always seemed to find a way to screw things up.
 
Bama1966 said:
Hollingsworth, wasn't bad, Shula was pretty good, I would have to go with BArker, just because he knew just what to do to win. Of all time I would say Trammel.

You know '66, I see Hollingsworth's name mentioned a lot in conversations about former QB's. But, I have to take pause when I see him mentioned as one of Alabama's greats.

In his '89-'90 seasons his results were fair, at best.

205 out of 339 attempts, 2379 yards but he threw 16 INT's vs 14 TD's.

His last season was even worse with 13 Int's vs 4 TD's.
 
rammajamma said:
I really liked Zow. He wasn't treated fairly by Fran. He was a threat to run or throw. I got to meet him one year at Christmas on the River and I told him that too!

I liked Zow, too. I thought he handled the revolving door QB situation with grace. Although he never seemed to have the full spotlight on him, he was the all-time passing leader at Bama before Croyle. Barring a successful campaign by the personalized plate posse, JPW should pass him for second in the next game or two.

Zow wasn't the runner of Fran's two-headed QB - Watts was the better runner of the two. Zow had some runs, but overall his running was just a wash aganst taking sacks.

RTR,

Tim
 
elbatider said:
Okay, I'll throw out the name of Bart Starr since it seems to be omitted. I'll go with Namath first, Starr second with Stabler a close third. Maybe throw in a Jeff Rutledge, Don Jacobs and Steadman Sheely in the mix. Jay Barker is given too much credit IMO and was a winner because he played during the time we had what was arguably our best defensive team ever.
Jay Barker IS a winner because Jay Barker is a winner. Being a winner cannot be coached. It's like hair color. You're born with it. Having a true winner on your team is a gift from above. We are fortunate to have had a few in our history. Some teams have never had even one.
My pick for the best: Namath.
 
Bart Starr was a great pro quarterback, one of the names that comes to mind when you think of the great Packer teams of the sixties. His time at Alabama was during a period of decline, and he was injured much of that time. I was thinking in terms of what these guys accomplished at Alabama, their leadership and their ability.

I've seen Pat Trammell mentioned here. Trammell was undoubtedly the toughest qb physically that we ever had. The substitution rules were restrictive in his days, so when he had to stay in the game on defense he was a linebacker. As a starter Trammell was 7-2-2, 8-1-2 and 11-0-0. a fine 26-3-4 record. As far as raw QB ability, though, he was not in a class with the others. He would not be the one you'd want on the filed to lead you 80 yerds in the last two minutes for the winning TD, you'd rather have Namath or Stabler. But if it was that 4th and 1 you had to have, Trammel was your guy.
 
A great QB is more than an arm. Even though I never saw him play I'd have to go with Trammell.

The story abouth him punting on 2nd or 3rd down is the best. And then telling coach bryant when he got to the sidelines the guys didnt want to play offense so he let them play defense.

I read it in a book a while ago. If anyone has the exact quote or story please post it.
 
Ah the ole twice yearly "Who is the best (insert position here)" topic.


Croyle and Trammel tie for first although for different reasons.

Namath, Starr and Stabler tie for 2nd.
 
According to the University of Alabama's website, the HISTORY .pdf link under the Archives tab, these QB's listed below are the best.


ALABAMA’S
WINNINGEST QUARTERBACKS
1. 35-2-1 Jay Barker (1991-94) .934
2. 30-9-2 Harry Gilmer* (1944-47) .756
3. 26-2-4 Pat Trammell (1959-61) .875
4. 33-5-0 Jeff Rutledge (1976-78) .868
5. 22-2-1 “Dixie” Howell* (1937-34) .900
6. 22-8-1 Mike Shula (1984-86) .721
7. 21-3-0 Joe Namath (1962-64) .875
8. 21-3-0 Terry Davis (1971-72) .875

*Gilmer and Howell both played in single wing formations in which they
did not lineup as a quarterback, but were their team’s pass thrower.
 
CtrlAltieDel said:
According to the University of Alabama's website, the HISTORY .pdf link under the Archives tab, these QB's listed below are the best.


ALABAMA’S
WINNINGEST QUARTERBACKS
1. 35-2-1 Jay Barker (1991-94) .934
2. 30-9-2 Harry Gilmer* (1944-47) .756
3. 26-2-4 Pat Trammell (1959-61) .875
4. 33-5-0 Jeff Rutledge (1976-78) .868
5. 22-2-1 “Dixie” Howell* (1937-34) .900
6. 22-8-1 Mike Shula (1984-86) .721
7. 21-3-0 Joe Namath (1962-64) .875
8. 21-3-0 Terry Davis (1971-72) .875

*Gilmer and Howell both played in single wing formations in which they
did not lineup as a quarterback, but were their team’s pass thrower.

What a QB and COACH! :D
 
the_rolltide said:
CtrlAltieDel said:
According to the University of Alabama's website, the HISTORY .pdf link under the Archives tab, these QB's listed below are the best.


ALABAMA’S
WINNINGEST QUARTERBACKS
1. 35-2-1 Jay Barker (1991-94) .934
2. 30-9-2 Harry Gilmer* (1944-47) .756
3. 26-2-4 Pat Trammell (1959-61) .875
4. 33-5-0 Jeff Rutledge (1976-78) .868
5. 22-2-1 “Dixie” Howell* (1937-34) .900
6. 22-8-1 Mike Shula (1984-86) .721
7. 21-3-0 Joe Namath (1962-64) .875
8. 21-3-0 Terry Davis (1971-72) .875

*Gilmer and Howell both played in single wing formations in which they
did not lineup as a quarterback, but were their team’s pass thrower.

What a QB and COACH! :D

Yes, Mike S. made this list. Don't know how well he would fare on an all time best coaches at 'Bama list though.
 
CtrlAltieDel said:
the_rolltide said:
CtrlAltieDel said:
According to the University of Alabama's website, the HISTORY .pdf link under the Archives tab, these QB's listed below are the best.


ALABAMA’S
WINNINGEST QUARTERBACKS
1. 35-2-1 Jay Barker (1991-94) .934
2. 30-9-2 Harry Gilmer* (1944-47) .756
3. 26-2-4 Pat Trammell (1959-61) .875
4. 33-5-0 Jeff Rutledge (1976-78) .868
5. 22-2-1 “Dixie” Howell* (1937-34) .900
6. 22-8-1 Mike Shula (1984-86) .721
7. 21-3-0 Joe Namath (1962-64) .875
8. 21-3-0 Terry Davis (1971-72) .875

*Gilmer and Howell both played in single wing formations in which they
did not lineup as a quarterback, but were their team’s pass thrower.

What a QB and COACH! :D

Yes, Mike S. made this list. Don't know how well he would fare on an all time best coaches at 'Bama list though.

1. BEAR
2. Shula
3. Saban

Thats my list :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
the_rolltide said:
CtrlAltieDel said:
According to the University of Alabama's website, the HISTORY .pdf link under the Archives tab, these QB's listed below are the best.


ALABAMA’S
WINNINGEST QUARTERBACKS
1. 35-2-1 Jay Barker (1991-94) .934
2. 30-9-2 Harry Gilmer* (1944-47) .756
3. 26-2-4 Pat Trammell (1959-61) .875
4. 33-5-0 Jeff Rutledge (1976-78) .868
5. 22-2-1 “Dixie” Howell* (1937-34) .900
6. 22-8-1 Mike Shula (1984-86) .721
7. 21-3-0 Joe Namath (1962-64) .875
8. 21-3-0 Terry Davis (1971-72) .875

*Gilmer and Howell both played in single wing formations in which they
did not lineup as a quarterback, but were their team’s pass thrower.

What a QB and COACH! :D

While Shula did not have a great arm, he certainly should be mentioned with the others, if for no other reason than he led two of our most memorable comebacks in 1986, The "God bless you Mike Shula" game against Georgia, and "The Kick" against the barn.
 
psychojoe said:
the_rolltide said:
CtrlAltieDel said:
According to the University of Alabama's website, the HISTORY .pdf link under the Archives tab, these QB's listed below are the best.


ALABAMA’S
WINNINGEST QUARTERBACKS
1. 35-2-1 Jay Barker (1991-94) .934
2. 30-9-2 Harry Gilmer* (1944-47) .756
3. 26-2-4 Pat Trammell (1959-61) .875
4. 33-5-0 Jeff Rutledge (1976-78) .868
5. 22-2-1 “Dixie” Howell* (1937-34) .900
6. 22-8-1 Mike Shula (1984-86) .721
7. 21-3-0 Joe Namath (1962-64) .875
8. 21-3-0 Terry Davis (1971-72) .875

*Gilmer and Howell both played in single wing formations in which they
did not lineup as a quarterback, but were their team’s pass thrower.

What a QB and COACH! :D

While Shula sis not have a great arm, he certainly should be mentioned with the others, if for no other reason than he led two of our most memorable comebacks in 1986, The "God bless you Mike Shula" game against Georgia, and "The Kick" against the barn.

Thank you...everyone looks at the negative.
Wither its JPW or Shula! They still are bama players and we should be thankful that they gave there all towards our university!
 
TerryP said:
Bama1966 said:
Hollingsworth, wasn't bad, Shula was pretty good, I would have to go with BArker, just because he knew just what to do to win. Of all time I would say Trammel.

You know '66, I see Hollingsworth's name mentioned a lot in conversations about former QB's. But, I have to take pause when I see him mentioned as one of Alabama's greats.

In his '89-'90 seasons his results were fair, at best.

205 out of 339 attempts, 2379 yards but he threw 16 INT's vs 14 TD's.

His last season was even worse with 13 Int's vs 4 TD's.

I am Biased he is from Hamilton. :D
 
Lenny Kozlowski said:
Me too 66 HTown rocks
I remember when all they had was a Kentucky Fried Chicken, that Sonic like place, cant remember the name and a Hamburger place Downtown.

My grandmother, Brother and myself lived at the Key Branch Apartments when my dad was in Vietnam, think it is Government housing now. When dad got out of the Marines we moved to Memphis. Then would go back every summer. Went to Maywood Christian camp alot. Got a Uncle still living there, I think you have said that you played golf with him. Had a Cousin to pass away a couple of weeks ago from there also. I love Hamilton.
 
CtrlAltieDel said:
the_rolltide said:
CtrlAltieDel said:
According to the University of Alabama's website, the HISTORY .pdf link under the Archives tab, these QB's listed below are the best.


ALABAMA’S
WINNINGEST QUARTERBACKS
1. 35-2-1 Jay Barker (1991-94) .934
2. 30-9-2 Harry Gilmer* (1944-47) .756
3. 26-2-4 Pat Trammell (1959-61) .875
4. 33-5-0 Jeff Rutledge (1976-78) .868
5. 22-2-1 “Dixie” Howell* (1937-34) .900
6. 22-8-1 Mike Shula (1984-86) .721
7. 21-3-0 Joe Namath (1962-64) .875
8. 21-3-0 Terry Davis (1971-72) .875

*Gilmer and Howell both played in single wing formations in which they
did not lineup as a quarterback, but were their team’s pass thrower.

What a QB and COACH! :D

Yes, Mike S. made this list. Don't know how well he would fare on an all time best coaches at 'Bama list though.

That list doesn't indicate that they're the "best" QB's. It just sorts them according to total number of wins in descending numerical order. If you go by that same logic then Michigan is the best team in the history of college football. But, we all know THAT isn't true. :D
 
TerryP said:
Bama1966 said:
Hollingsworth, wasn't bad, Shula was pretty good, I would have to go with BArker, just because he knew just what to do to win. Of all time I would say Trammel.

You know '66, I see Hollingsworth's name mentioned a lot in conversations about former QB's. But, I have to take pause when I see him mentioned as one of Alabama's greats.

In his '89-'90 seasons his results were fair, at best.

205 out of 339 attempts, 2379 yards but he threw 16 INT's vs 14 TD's.

His last season was even worse with 13 Int's vs 4 TD's.


...not to mention the fact that Hollingsworth was only 15-7 (.681) as a starter.
 
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