🏈 Bama's Top 8 CB's Of All-Time

[SEC_Si]

Not sure if I agree with all the names on this list...I think Fernando could have been on here for sure.

What do you guys think?
http://secsportsinsider.com/alabama-crimson-tide-top-8-cornerbacks-of-all-time/

 

[psychojoe]

There is a strong case for all of the 8 listed. I can think of several corners more worthy of honorable mention than Simeon Castille. He definitely underachieved during his time at Alabama. Tommy Johnson and Sam Shade deserve mention. Chris Goode was extraordinary his senior season. John Mangum was good. Dequan Menzie was good. I would rank all of them ahead of Castille, and probably others as well.

 

[TerryP]

@psychojoe I'm not sure there's a position on the field that's changed more (in terms of responsibility) than the CB position.

You take a guy from Jeremiah's time, compare him to say Sam Shade, and then put Dee Milliner next to both—there is very little about the game that resembles each era to compare.

 

[psychojoe]

Agreed, although the Stallings/Oliver schemes did play a lot of press man defense with the corners on islands. Those schemes were more like each other than the Bryant/Donahue schemes of the late seventies.

 

[TerryP]

Agreed, although the Stallings/Oliver schemes did play a lot of press man defense with the corners on islands. Those schemes were more like each other than the Bryant/Donahue schemes of the late seventies.

Even those Stallings/Oliver schemes were on a different playing field; literally.

Let me pose a question. Do you think Spurriers' offense would have been as successful in his Florida tenure if he were dealing with the same width on the hash marks as offenses in the Bryant/Donahue era?

 

[psychojoe]

I don't think Spurrier would have done as well had the hash marks of the earlier era still been in place. It has been a lot of years ago, but as I recall, the hash marks wee changed to encourage more offense. It was a perfect storm for Spurrier in the nineties.

 

[JoshB]

Dont really have a problem with anyone of them but yeah Fernando Bryant should have been on there, at the very least as honorable mention.

 

[JoshB]

@psychojoe I'm not sure there's a position on the field that's changed more (in terms of responsibility) than the CB position.

You take a guy from Jeremiah's time, compare him to say Sam Shade, and then put Dee Milliner next to both—there is very little about the game that resembles each era to compare.

Sam Shade played Strong Safety, no?

 

[TerryP]

Sam Shade played Strong Safety, no?

Played some corner...if I recall correctly he played corner in '92 and switch to safety in '93.

 

[psychojoe]

If I recall correctly, George Teague played corner early in his tenure at Bama, though by his last season he was altogether a safety.

Bennie Perrin should be on any such list.

 

[JoshB]

Played some corner...if I recall correctly he played corner in '92 and switch to safety in '93.

Like Joe said, I think you're thinking of George Teague. The corners in '92 were Langham, Johnson, and Teague. Shade and Donnelly were the safeties. In fact I just pulled up the stat sheets from '92 and Shade started every game at SS. Teague started two at FS when I think Donnelly was either hurt or suspended. Langham started every game at one corner and Teague/Johnson started every game at the other corner.

 

[TerryP]

@psychojoe @Birdman37

http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/alab/graphics/docs/92-m-footbl-roster.pdf

 

[JoshB]

@TerryP I would assume that would be a mistake, cause he certainly didnt play CB in 92... or at least he didnt start, I havent watched a 92 game for awhile but I seem to recall him ever playin at corner that year...

 

[TerryP]

@Birdman37 You recall how often we played a Cover 1?

 

[JoshB]

Fairly decent amount if Im not wrong.

Might be time to dust off the VCR and watch some of those old 92 games again lol

 

[psychojoe]

Birdman, why not convert those to DVD? 92 is a great season to have.
Especially in the Miami game we played a lot of dime. Teague was a safety on the most famous play of his career.
Stallings liked to play guys who were really corners as safeties. That got extra speed on the field.
I remember CGS getting a little testy when a reporter asked him how he planned to cope with Miami's speed. He said something to the effect that Alabama was fast too, we just did not publicize our times.

 

[JoshB]

Birdman, why not convert those to DVD? 92 is a great season to have.
Especially in the Miami game we played a lot of dime. Teague was a safety on the most famous play of his career.
Stallings liked to play guys who were really corners as safeties. That got extra speed on the field.
I remember CGS getting a little testy when a reporter asked him how he planned to cope with Miami's speed. He said something to the effect that Alabama was fast too, we just did not publicize our times.

I will eventually, I got like 60 from different eras on VHS so its gonna be a bitch. One day I will sit down and start doing it tho.

 

[TerryP]

Far be it from me to suggest the media guide has had some mistakes in it—lord knows the LSU fan base had a fit when it published a win in the regular season against them in 2011.

It's not a big deal if it was a mistake, or not. I know he played safety; I thought I'd seen him play corner several times as well. That's over two decades ago. I'd be going off of memory of watching games live.

Considering how bad the coverage is now with a secondary in televised events I can't see much possibility of it being better back then, ya know?