🏈 Bama vs ND

[BAMAFSTBACK]

I've watched a few Notre Dame football games this year, most notably the triple overtime win vs Pitt and the game against USC. And while I will admit my football acumen is limited, I just don't see them as a very good team. They are definitely a solid team, but I wouldn't say they were a juggernaut by any means. I can't find a single position where I would give Notre Dame the edge over Alabama. Quarterback? Tailback? O-line? Can someone help me with this national media lovefest. Please? Are they selling tickets or do they honestly believe Notre Dame can hang with Alabama? For 60 min.?

 

[XXL TideFan]

It's Notre Dame.

 

[Splittine]

Ask Lou Holtz. He will tell you why they should be preseason #1 every year, how much better ND is at every position than Bama and that ND should just be handed the trophy. I'm like you, I don't see it.

 

[TerryP]

Comparing position groups to each other:

Linebacker and defensive lines are close.

DB's I'd give a slight edge to Bama but it's awfully close as well because of ND's run support.

ND when it comes to receivers.

Bama's depth at RB gives UA the edge.

QB's I'd give to ND based on depth.

OL is Bama.

ST goes to Bama.

 

[BAMAFSTBACK]

Receivers? Really? :icon_scratch:

 

[TerryP]

Receivers? Really? :icon_scratch:

I'm including the TE in the receiving corps. Eifert is the one that swings it ND's way IMO.

Oh, it's close and I should have noted that.

Scoring production throws the scale in Bama's direction. The ability to move the ball against our defense swings it theirs.

Cooper has a lot of success because defenses have to adjust to stop the run and we'll burn them when they do. UGA was a great example of that.

Eifert gives ND the ability to move the chains—IE: like I said earlier, moving the ball against our defense.

IF we add the RB into the equation it's twisting comparisons around to a degree it's almost impossible to judge. Bama uses our RB's out of the backfield. ND lines theirs up in the slot.

 

[ElephantStomp]

Speaking of receivers, Terry I read today that Saban is talking about Tee Martin about coming to Bama, you heard anything along this?

 

[TerryP]

Speaking of receivers, Terry I read today that Saban is talking about Tee Martin about coming to Bama, you heard anything along this?

The best I recall his name first came up when Cignetti left.

 

[BAMAFSTBACK]

They won't be able to cover Amari or Norwood. Norwood seems to play his best when the lights are brightest. Excluding the depth(which I'm not willing to concede) at quarterback, AJ >Everett Golson all day. And against Notre Dame, I wouldn't be scared to see Blake Sims come in the game. The thing I keep coming back to is overall athleticism across-the-board. On paper they may match up physically, but are they as talented?

 

[0LDSCH00L]

I'm including the TE in the receiving corps. Eifert is the one that swings it ND's way IMO.

Oh, it's close and I should have noted that.

Scoring production throws the scale in Bama's direction. The ability to move the ball against our defense swings it theirs.

Cooper has a lot of success because defenses have to adjust to stop the run and we'll burn them when they do. UGA was a great example of that.

Eifert gives ND the ability to move the chains—IE: like I said earlier, moving the ball against our defense.

IF we add the RB into the equation it's twisting comparisons around to a degree it's almost impossible to judge. Bama uses our RB's out of the backfield. ND lines theirs up in the slot.

I have a feeling Tyler Eifert is going to get us a lot of problems.

 

[BAMAFSTBACK]

I have a feeling Tyler Eifert is going to get us a lot of problems.

Saban will take him away.

 

[TerryP]

They won't be able to cover Amari or Norwood. Norwood seems to play his best when the lights are brightest. Excluding the depth(which I'm not willing to concede) at quarterback, AJ >Everett Golson all day. And against Notre Dame, I wouldn't be scared to see Blake Sims come in the game. The thing I keep coming back to is overall athleticism across-the-board. On paper they may match up physically, but are they as talented?

They may have difficulty covering Coop and Norwood IF we can get those guys in man coverage. Don't underestimate ND against the passing game.

ND can run the same package with both QB's in the game. We can't.

Athleticism across the board? We'd have an advantage, sure. However, when a team might have less athletes (using the terms you're referring to here) but is very disciplined in their play it balances things out.

Take a look over the starting from seven at ND and keep those guys names in mind. In four, five years you'll see them spread around the NFL.

Recruiting has never been an issue in South Bend. Their issues have always been found on the sidelines.

 

[BAMAFSTBACK]

Their issues have always been found on the sidelines.

And we have the edge there too. :biggrin_blue:

 

[TerryP]

And we have the edge there too. :biggrin_blue:

Brian Kelly is a hell of a football coach.

Mike Hamilton screwed Smokey so badly at the end of 2008 by not grabbing him from Cincy when he had the chance...still shocks me. UT would be a different program right now if they would have made that hire. Hell, we see Spurrier having mental health issues (to a greater degree than he is now) about having two coaches nationally considered to be better than he is in the SEC.

Saban certainly has a better resume right now.

 

[0LDSCH00L]

Saban will take him away.

I hope so but the kid is 6'6 and weighs 250 pounds and runs a 4.71! He is 4 or 5 inches taller than our tallest Defensive Back and can out jump almost anyone on our defense. He is also a great blocker.

Just saying he could cause problems:

CLICK

 

[bamafan9201]

QB to ND? Have you compared the stats...Combined both those QBs don't even have close to what Mccaron

 

[bamafan9201]

Also, Isn't Chris Black supposed to be 100% for this game?

 

[ElephantStomp]

Also, Isn't Chris Black supposed to be 100% for this game?

I will be surprised if the staff burns his redshirt just for this game

 

[bamafan9201]

I hope so but the kid is 6'6 and weighs 250 pounds and runs a 4.71! He is 4 or 5 inches taller than our tallest Defensive Back and can out jump almost anyone on our defense. He is also a great blocker.

Just saying he could cause problems:

CLICK

Nvm, Against standford he didn't do very well though. 55 yards on a big game? Oklahoma he was non-existent so I'm not really concerned. In big games he doesn't produce like he does against easier opponents.

 

[TerryP]

QB to ND? Have you compared the stats...Combined both those QBs don't even have close to what Mccaron

Yes, and again it's depth.

If we're comparing AJ to Golson, it's AJ. If AJ gets hurt and we're down to Blake we aren't running the same offense. If Golson gets hurt their offense continues with its scheme.

It's a position to position comparison. The thing is you can't use that as an accurate determination on how a team is going to perform.

Just comparing RB's to RB's Bama gets the edge because of depth.

When you add RB's and OL together, it's a landslide in Bama's direction.

WR's are close. But, when you combine the need for ND to defend the running game based on the talent at RB plus the OL then Bama gets the edge there as well. Think back about that UGA game. The TD Coop scored to seal that victory wasn't all due to him or AJ. That was set up time and time again by the OL and the running game. As soon as UGA moved another in the box to defend the run, leaving man coverage on Cooper, we hit the TD pass.