šŸ“” Auburn beat Alabama in 2017, but are the 'state champs' really ready to take over the SEC West? Maybe

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By DAVE HOOKER

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Auburn beat Alabama last season, but can the Tigers actually supplant the Crimson Tide as the premier team in the SEC West? That depends on who you ask.

Opinions vary among those that know both programs well. Relatively speaking, Auburn has held its own against Alabama recently. Since Gus Malzahn was named the Tigers’ head coach in 2013, the Tigers are 2-3 against the Crimson Tide. In that span, Alabama has won two national titles and reached the College Football Playoff each season since its inception in 2014. While the head-to-head record is close and Auburn won the SEC West last season, the overall achievements don’t compare.

ā€œNo one can beat Saban’s Alabama consistently,ā€ said Chuck Oliver of Southern Sports Today and 680 The Fan. ā€œEven the back-to-back (wins over Alabama in 2014 and 2015) with Ole Miss and (coach Hugh) Freeze, there was an onside kick, a tipped-by-three-guys touchdown pass, just goofy stuff and it still took all 60 minutes to wrap it up.ā€

Team vs. Saban’s Alabama

Arkansas 0-11
Auburn 4-7
Florida 1-6
Georgia 1-4
Kentucky 0-4
LSU 3-9
Miss State 1-10
Missouri 0-2
Ole Miss 2-9
South Carolina 1-1
Tennessee 0-11
Texas A&M 1-5
Vanderbilt 0-3

Beating Saban consistently has indeed proven difficult, if not impossible. However, former Auburn offensive lineman Cole Cubelic believes the Tigers can surpass Alabama as the preeminent power in the SEC West.

ā€œI don’t see why not,ā€ said Cubelic of WJOX. ā€œThe contrast in style helps Auburn in this matchup. If the Auburn offensive line develops, it’s a very winnable game again this fall. As long as recruiting stays where it has been, Auburn should be in the mix in the (SEC) West.ā€

Former Alabama fullback Baron Huber, who has also served in various media roles, said Auburn’s offensive style gives the Tigers a chance.

ā€œGus Malzahn has the type of offense, when clicking, that can make a rough day for any team in the country, if he has the right quarterback,ā€ Huber said. ā€œI think it would be hard for Auburn, or anybody for that matter, to beat Alabama consistently given the level that coach Saban recruits.ā€

Cubelic said continued offensive line development and quarterback depth must be built at Auburn to surpass the Tide. It also wouldn’t hurt Auburn’s cause if Alabama came back to the pack. Some have questioned if Alabama can keep up its recent pace given the vast number of coaches it has lost to other coaching staffs.

ā€œThat’s starting to legitimately affect the quality of the on-field product,ā€ Oliver said. ā€œNot only is Saban better than any other head coach at finding and hiring new position coaches and coordinators, but of all the things he does at the top level that’s what he does even better than anything else. But even he can’t be expected to turn an ace, or six, every single hand and that’s what it’s turning into. That’s the Bama version of that tiny opening in the Death Star in the first Star Wars.ā€

Huber pointed out that one of Alabama’s coaching losses actually hurts the Tigers. Kirby Smart left Bama as its defensive coordinator to become the head coach at Georgia in 2016. He has since become a force in recruiting, especially in the Atlanta area. That has historically been a key recruiting territory for Auburn. With Alabama and other schools also targeting the Atlanta area, Smart and Georgia just make it more difficult for the Tigers to pluck top prospects from there. Auburn fans won’t like to hear this, but Huber believes the Tigers need to essentially know their role.

ā€œI think Auburn needs to be realistic about expectations and be comfortable with themselves,ā€ Huber said. ā€œLooking at everyone else and constantly measuring (themselves against Alabama) is only going to breed instability.ā€

Certainly, that’s an understandable assessment by Huber. However, Auburn fans and administrators likely won’t see it that way after Malzahn received a new contract that will pay him $49 million over seven years. How can Malzahn live up to that contract? There might be only one way.

ā€œSaban has to retire, if it’s going to be anything more than a, ā€˜Hey, we beat Bama! … cool,'ā€ Oliver said.

Said Huber, ā€œI honestly don’t see anyone surpassing Alabama in the West for a while. Yes, Alabama didn’t win their division this year, but I think most people would recognize that Alabama was the best team in the league. The national championship proved that.ā€
 
State champs is....as I read someone said.....is for high schools.....national championship is a college thing....( and trophy is better than car tag....)
AU has no history of consistency in winning.....see no reason it will change in next 7 years with Malzahn
 
so auburn, at 4-7 in Coach Saban's time while at Alabama, is supposed to pass 'Bama as the preeminent power in the sec west? oh...and that 4-7 record? that's the best record that any sec coach has against Saban while at 'Bama. the next best is ole miss at 2-9.

and as far as being "state champs"...well, they can have the state. we'll take the nation. every...single.....time.
 
This reminds me of Miles handing out the #2 rings for LSU's 2011 season. All that seemed to do was remind those guys how badly they were beaten.

Now, I'm reading this tweet from Auburn and it mentions the Georgia score...which, would only serve to remind Auburn fans how badly they lost in the SECCG, right?
 
this is akin to handing out participation trophies to kids just for showing up and playing. what happened to rewarding winners? now, all you gotta do is play the game. and if you lose, you get a trophy just like the winners do. it's promoting mediocrity. they can try and pass it off as being an "equality" thing. but i can tell you when i played little league ball, if we didn't win that just made us practice that much harder for the next game.

and auburn is just putting themselves in the same boat as those that want everyone to have a trophy, no matter the score. what if we didn't keep score anymore. does that mean that EVERY team is the national champion? is EVERY team in EVERY conference the conference champ?

THIS IS FREAKIN' COLLEGE FOOTBALL! A GAME WHERE WE KEEP SCORE TO DETERMINE A WINNER AND A LOSER!

and it just so happens that auburn was a loser more times than 'BAMA was, last season. we lost once, they lost 4 times. and 2 of those were in the 2 biggest games of the season. well, for most teams, anyway. but all they care about is beating big brother. so if they wanna beat their collective chest and claim themselves some sort of champion just so they can have a ring to satisfy their pitiful desires to not coma away empty-handed, then so be it. but until you're holding that big trophy at the end of the season, you ain't done shit, in my opinion.
 
I suspect the series "A lot goes into building a ring" has something to do with Auburn's being so prominently featured. I meant to start a thread about it the other day and just didn't make the time. It's a 17 part series Alabama football has been tweeting showing the timeline of Saban's NC ring being built.

I'll put it together soon.
 
You have to give the Barn Complex credit for they get up everyday of their life trying to keep pace with the Nick Saban Express. They actually do a better job than anybody in the SEC. I have to give them a tip of the hat.

the only tip i'll give them is the tip of my toe....just before i shove me entire foot in their ass.

they just can't stand it when someone else has a better year than they do. especially when they have this delusion that they were world beaters.
 
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