🏈 GAME THREAD 🏈 Alabama Wins 24-21 Thriller Over Georgia

I saw something that said they'd be immediately eligible to play. Many schools have minimesters and such...
Unless I'm mistaken, what you read isn't correct. I didn't delve deeply. I was looking at the redshirt angle with these guys getting fired. (See the Va Tech posts in the Hot Seat thread.)

We're in the weeds a bit here, I think. Not surprisingly considering who writes the rules. A cursory explanation seems to be "yes, you can transfer to Bama. But, Bama can't sign you until December.) It frees up the players; not their destination schools.

(If it rains like they say it's going to I'll have time to look more later today. It's perked my interest to see if I'm wrong.)
 
I saw something that said they'd be immediately eligible to play. Many schools have minimesters and such...
Brief search:

According to NCAA Rules, the Portal window opens one day after a coach is dismissed, meaning Virginia Tech's specific window will be open from Monday, September 15 through Wednesday, October 15.
The NCAA recently proposed a one-time Transfer Portal window in January, eliminating the Spring window, to create a 10-day window in January. The proposed Portal window would open up one day after the Quarterfinals of the College Football playoffs. There are special cases, such as Virginia Tech's and UCLA's, that allows players to put their names into the portal because of the firing of a head coach.
 
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With the firing of head coach Brent Pry, the 30-day transfer portal has now opened for all Hokies players. Since Pry's squad has not played four games, players are still eligible to redshirt the campaign and transfer to another squad. However, they cannot play for whichever team that they transfer to for this season. Here's four players that I believe that the Hokies should be working to retain.
 
UGA came in as a top 20 team in offensive efficiency. Saturday, half of the NCAA did better.
It was either you or another admin, if I remember correctly, who explained Wommack’s scheme upon hiring as susceptible to explosive runs and a ball-control passing attack but not “breaking” in the red zone. Is this correct??
 
It was either you or another admin, if I remember correctly, who explained Wommack’s scheme upon hiring as susceptible to explosive runs and a ball-control passing attack but not “breaking” in the red zone. Is this correct??
If it had to do with some acronyms it was me. I speak more in efficiency terms as compared to Brandon.

We've both talked about the defense resembling a "bent but don't break" type.
 
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The Bama defense played well enough Saturday to cut their average scoring production on offense by over 40 percent. I don't like the 230 number. I do like the 21.

If it had to do with some acronyms it was me. I speak more in efficiency terms as compared to Brandon.

We've both talked about the defense resembling a "bent but don't break" type.

-I'm leaning that way as well. Similar to the Joe Kines defense lead by DeMeco Ryans et al.

-Yes the runs sucked. But I specifically remember saying early 4th quarter, that this MUST be on the defenses shoulders. They needed to bow up & make the stops. And it's not like Jawja stopped trying the run. They kept at it. However, the Defense got some coaching, they upped the intensity & they executed. When they did, all of Dawg nation felt it. I'm telling you that 4th down hurry up stop was the difference in the game. It took all the wind out of their sails.

In the end, the Defense got better as the game progressed. What else can you ask for at this point?

Lastly, this upcoming game. . . . . I see this defense EXTREMELY dialed in every single day until after the game. I expect this defense to grow A LOT between this last quarter & by the end of the Vandy game.
 
I see "but, 230 rushing yards" here and there. What I don't see are references to defensive efficiency. Or, in this case, offensive efficiency. UGA came in as a top 20 team in offensive efficiency. Saturday, half of the NCAA did better.

2.1 points per drive for UGA against Bama? No! Let's focus on 230 instead of PPD or PPP?

The Bama defense played well enough Saturday to cut their average scoring production on offense by over 40 percent. I don't like the 230 number. I do like the 21.
I am not ok with 21 but I can live with it all things considered but never 230 rushing yards.... That is an issue no matter how you spin it. We cannot know for sure but if we are being honest with ourselves it is likely that if Smart kicked a fg to tie the game UGA wins the game. Also a dropped pass away from 28 points.
 
I am not ok with 21 but I can live with it all things considered but never 230 rushing yards.... That is an issue no matter how you spin it. We cannot know for sure but if we are being honest with ourselves it is likely that if Smart kicked a fg to tie the game UGA wins the game. Also a dropped pass away from 28 points.

If it's and buts we're candy and nuts...
 
I get it but just responding to your comment about the defense playing amazing. I would characterize it as they played opportunistic and made plays at key times.

The other side to that coin is that this offense hadn't officially ran their 2 minute offense yet. Are you willing to bet that Jawja could've of stopped them from getting in field goal range? Unnofficially, the offense did run a suedo version of the 2 minute offense to close out the 1st half. . . . . And they scored.

I understand the running yards issue. It's a concern. I'm certain Wommack & CKD were not pleased. But they did make stops when it mattered in the end.

Last thought. . . . . The defense did improve as the season progressed last year. With all the substitutions that Wommack does, the maturity/gelling of the defense is a little bit slower but depth is improved & guys are not beat to hell by the end of the season. Therefore, lets see if this continues. This Vandy game, is going to say a lot for me about the maturing of this defense under Wommack.
 
I am not ok with 21 but I can live with it all things considered but never 230 rushing yards.... That is an issue no matter how you spin it. We cannot know for sure but if we are being honest with ourselves it is likely that if Smart kicked a fg to tie the game UGA wins the game. Also a dropped pass away from 28 points.
We are back where we have been. You haven't made the journey from football a decade ago to where it is now. 21 points, to a UGA team, is a top 20 scoring defense in the nation (using last season numbers.)

Not okay with 21 when we just saw Tennessee have 44 dropped on them; on the road?

No, it's not likely UGA wins the game when they couldn't move the ball in the second half sans one possession. To expect them to have the same success as they did on their first drive you would also have to expect a busted assignment (43 yard running play) and another questionable personal foul extending the drive? Even if they kick the FG there's only a 50/50 chance they score again based on what they actually did in that game: TD, downs, and two punts in the second half.

It's crazy to me seeing UGA homers with more respect for Bama's performance. "Bama might have lost" is as crazy a thought to me as the "look, Vandy only lost all those games by this much" in the other thread. In this world Talty barely missed the FG attempt.
 
We are back where we have been. You haven't made the journey from football a decade ago to where it is now. 21 points, to a UGA team, is a top 20 scoring defense in the nation (using last season numbers.)

Not okay with 21 when we just saw Tennessee have 44 dropped on them; on the road?

No, it's not likely UGA wins the game when they couldn't move the ball in the second half sans one possession. To expect them to have the same success as they did on their first drive you would also have to expect a busted assignment (43 yard running play) and another questionable personal foul extending the drive? Even if they kick the FG there's only a 50/50 chance they score again based on what they actually did in that game: TD, downs, and two punts in the second half.

It's crazy to me seeing UGA homers with more respect for Bama's performance. "Bama might have lost" is as crazy a thought to me as the "look, Vandy only lost all those games by this much" in the other thread. In this world Talty barely missed the FG attempt.
I'm fine with giving up 21 points. Especially with how college football is today. The days of consistently keeping teams to 10 points or under isnt dead, but extremely unlikely to do. What bothers me the most about Saturday defensively is we did get pushed around up front a lot. 231 rushing yards is a very tough pill for me to swallow when I see it. We made some big time plays when we needed it, and I'm thankful for that. But we have got to do better against the run, that is a non-negotiable fact.
 
I'm fine with giving up 21 points. Especially with how college football is today. The days of consistently keeping teams to 10 points or under isnt dead, but extremely unlikely to do. What bothers me the most about Saturday defensively is we did get pushed around up front a lot. 231 rushing yards is a very tough pill for me to swallow when I see it. We made some big time plays when we needed it, and I'm thankful for that. But we have got to do better against the run, that is a non-negotiable fact.

Obviously, the scheme is not quite set up well to stop the run either traditionally and especially not when the team is running the inside read. On top of that the front three have to be able to disrupt the run lanes and our inside linebackers have been slightly weak catching the sweeping runs and Wolf setting the edge. All of that is coaching minus the physicality on the front. When Womack mentioned Lawson was a standout to him in the game I really knew to disregard anything that he says. Lawson constantly runs himself out of plays. The one thing he has done better since gaining confidence in his knee is pass Pro.
 
Obviously, the scheme is not quite set up well to stop the run either traditionally and especially not when the team is running the inside read. On top of that the front three have to be able to disrupt the run lanes and our inside linebackers have been slightly weak catching the sweeping runs and Wolf setting the edge. All of that is coaching minus the physicality on the front. When Womack mentioned Lawson was a standout to him in the game I really knew to disregard anything that he says. Lawson constantly runs himself out of plays. The one thing he has done better since gaining confidence in his knee is pass Pro.
Boz? What the heck! Did I just step out of a cab or was it really a Time Machine?
 
I'm fine with giving up 21 points. Especially with how college football is today. The days of consistently keeping teams to 10 points or under isnt dead, but extremely unlikely to do. What bothers me the most about Saturday defensively is we did get pushed around up front a lot. 231 rushing yards is a very tough pill for me to swallow when I see it. We made some big time plays when we needed it, and I'm thankful for that. But we have got to do better against the run, that is a non-negotiable fact.

Be curious to see a breakdown of between the tackles versus outside the tackles. I think that will bring a lot more into focus about how our front seven are playing the run. I have an idea of what that looked like against Georgia, but have already beaten that dead horse.
 
Boz? What the heck! Did I just step out of a cab or was it really a Time Machine?
Yup that's him. He comes here every once in a while. I know he's tired of that bs mess with other board deleting threads and etc.

@CrimsonBoz how do you feel about the young kids stepping up in place for Latham and Smith when they were out?
If the cab hits 88, watch out...

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What’s up 24! Good to be back.

I thought the young guys played well. We made stops when we had to. Obviously we gave up a lot of rushing yards but penalties were down, time of possession was good. If you think about it, Georgia scored 21, that’s not ground breaking.

Thats weird the cab I was in yesterday looked just like that.
 
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