šŸˆ Alabama reviewing mass exodus of students from Bryant-Denny Stadium, could nix block seating

Angry Alabama football fans took to Twitter Saturday night as they watched the student section in Bryant-Denny Stadium empty out for another game, and it seems fans aren't the only people taking notice.According to a report in The Crimson White, SGA President Jimmy Taylor emailed leaders of student organizations with block seating before the game, warning them to stay in their seats or else.

ā€œAdministrators will review photos and film of the student section from the games,ā€ the email stated, according to The Crimson White. ā€œSeating will be taken away from those organizations who abandon reserved seating. I have also been informed that this is a ā€˜pilot year’ for SOS and if sections do not remain full, this will likely be the final year of Student Organization Seating.ā€

According to The Crimson White's report
, student organizations have signed agreements to stay until the conclusion of games.On Monday, a University spokeswoman referred any questions about block seating to Taylor, whose press secretary declined to answer any specific questions about which administrators are involved.

Empty student seats are not unique to the 2013 football season. The SGA rolled out a new program, Play for Four, Stay for Four, this school year in response to the lackluster student support seen in years past.

In the Student Organization Seating handbook, updated in July 2013, "excessive tardiness or early departure from the stadium" is listed as "unacceptable behavior."
According to the handbook, an organization's first offense would result in the loss of block seating for the next conference game and the second offense would result in the loss of seating for all remaining games.

Both sanctions would also include a point deduction on the organization's block seating application for the 2014 year.

Organizations would be banned from applying for block seating in 2014 if levied with a third offense.

Leela Foley, SGA press secretary, said there have been no sanctions levied as of Tuesday evening.

"SGA will continue to encourage sustained student attendance at football games," Taylor said in a prepared statement. "We are currently and will always research other programs and initiatives to support this goal and any other goals that work to enhance the student experience at The University of Alabama."

While student attendance across the board looks patchy during blowout games, block seating -- the seats reserved in the south end zone for organizations, a majority of which are traditionally white fraternities -- is regularly the first to empty out after halftime.

Because block seating is reserved for organization members until 45 minutes before kick-off, its sections are also typically the last areas of the stadium to fill up.
Students not in block seating organizations arrive at the stadium hours before kickoff to find seats in other student sections.
 
While it looks bad........ I have no doubt the university is looking at dollars lost. With all the added seats that the student section was screaming for a few years back, think of how much money they could be making had they left the student section status quo and sold those at full price. $$$$$$ UA isn't gonna go for that crap (students walking out). They know how to make money and that is several thousands of dollars left on the table.
 
While student attendance across the board looks patchy during blowout games, block seating -- the seats reserved in the south end zone for organizations, a majority of which are traditionally white fraternities -- is regularly the first to empty out after halftime.
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What's the point of including that line?
 
Why not say it? It's true. The block seating is a big factor in late arrivals and early departures. The white Greek system is the key beneficiary of block seating. In my view, if they want block seating, arrive as a block.

RTR,

Tim

Do you see any other frats which are not "white" still in their seats?
 
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I don't know. It's just been in the last few years where we've had co-ed groups added and one all-female organization.

Are they still there? Are they any different in how long they stay at the game?

I don't shy away from race when the numbers are there. The majority of block attendees are and have always been from white fraternities. Every block group should be responsible for showing up and remaining, but if there is a majority that can be addressed in a direct way (through the IFC) why not deal with them?

40 percent of all kids are born out of wedlock. 29 percent of white births are out of wedlock, 72 percent of black births. Should social agencies make a concerted effort to address unmarried black births?

RTR,

Tim
 
I don't shy away from race when the numbers are there. The majority of block attendees are and have always been from white fraternities. Every block group should be responsible for showing up and remaining, but if there is a majority that can be addressed in a direct way (through the IFC) why not deal with them?

The point the majority of the block attendees have came from white fraternities isn't lost on me. It begs another question which I'll get to in just a second.

I also agree the seating issue should be addressed via the IFC. There is an issue.

However, what I didn't understand (as you can see from the exchange you received) is how race has anything to do with the seating issue. Is there an underlying problem with white fraternities getting preference over other student organizations? If so, the problem needs to be addressed in an article in and of itself in my opinion.

How many of the black fraternities have applied for block seating? Where they left out because of low GPA? Lack of interest? Did they even apply?

All that said...

When I first saw that line I wondered if there was any factor motivating it that came from some of the stories revolving around the University celebrating "50 years of diversity." There was a little hoopla surrounding suspicions about UA photoshopping a picture on UA.edu because an African American looked to have caucasian hands.

Just as a FWIW to you other guys here...the author has been very responsive to my questions about why it was included. I may ask her permission to share her thoughts here.

40 percent of all kids are born out of wedlock. 29 percent of white births are out of wedlock, 72 percent of black births. Should social agencies make a concerted effort to address unmarried black births?

RTR,

Tim

A conversation that definitely needs a thread all by itself.
 
Another question I'd like to know the answer to is how many of the fraternity/sorority groups are members of the IFC. While it is nationwide I don't know how many are members. More importantly, how many of the meetings are actually attended by leaders in those two groups.
 
Saban did a mini rant during his press conference about this. Said that he talks about the players needing to play for a full 60 minutes and he thinks that the fans should show them their support for a full 60 minutes. He also said that they have recruits at most games and they'd like for a full, excited stadium to show the recruits the excitement. He said that there are alot of people that would love to come to a came and stay the full way so if you're not interested in doing that maybe someone else should go in your place.
 
Saban did a mini rant during his press conference about this. Said that he talks about the players needing to play for a full 60 minutes and he thinks that the fans should show them their support for a full 60 minutes. He also said that they have recruits at most games and they'd like for a full, excited stadium to show the recruits the excitement. He said that there are alot of people that would love to come to a came and stay the full way so if you're not interested in doing that maybe someone else should go in your place.

I heard that. I'm glad he did.
 
Tim, or anyone for that matter...

Do you remember when the Yell Crew started under fRan? (damn, that should have been a clue, eh?) They were a student organization, did they have a section of seating? I seem to recall they did. Did we see the same problems as prevalently then as we do now?
 
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