| FTBL Alabama analyst predicts Crimson Tide head football coach Kalen DeBoer’s right-hand man’s return to Tuscaloosa

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Alabama analyst predicts Crimson Tide head football coach Kalen DeBoer’s right-hand man’s return to Tuscaloosa

Alabama head football coach Kalen DeBoer brought many components of his Washington staff to Tuscaloosa, but his right-hand man, Ryan Grubb, left before truly getting started to take a job with the Seattle Seahawks.

Needless to say, things didn’t work out for the Crimson Tide or Seahawks this past season. The Next Round Live’s Lance Taylor believes DeBoer might get the full band back together and hire Grubb back this offseason.

“I have a feeling that you will see Ryan Grubb in Tuscaloosa. I think the full gang is coming back together,” Taylor said on Friday’s edition of The Next Round.

Grubb explained back in February why he passed up on helping DeBoer build Alabama’s football program: the NFL was always his calling.

“Thought about that process a lot of times honestly so just in this situation (this time) made it tougher,” Grubb said, per The Tuscaloosa News. “He (DeBoer) was getting it started at Alabama and I wanted to be there for him but I knew this is what ultimately I wanted to do if the right situation came up.

“The timing is so difficult to describe so I think that was the hardest part. ... We knew this day would come and I'm excited for Kalen, he's going to do a phenomenal job down at Alabama.

“Nothing was set here (in Seattle). Mike was going through his process and trying to make the best decisions he could for the Seahawks, so nothing was set and I had to keep moving forward with the job that I had taken an that was the Alabama offensive coordinator job. I had to trust the process and know that it would end up the right way.”

After a disastrous ReliaQuest Bowl finale, losing to Michigan 19-13 as three-score favorites, Alabama can use a boost offensively. That’s without mentioning Oklahoma holding them to just three points in the Crimson Tide’s worst loss of the season in Week 13.

The Seahawks are 9-7 and had a league-average offense but missed the postseason and saw Geno Smith take a step back.

Grubb might not need DeBoer, but DeBoer may need Grubb. We’ll see if that produces any reunions this offseason.

 

[Bammerboy321]

Sounds too good to be true.

 

[mando]

I believe CKD will need to make changes on the offensive side and likely at OC. I often wonder if things would have been different this year had Grubb stayed in Tuscaloosa. Just felt like Sheridan was the best choice given the cirumstances at the time but not the best choice if circumstances
had been different.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

I believe CKD will need to make changes on the offensive side and likely at OC. I often wonder if things would have been different this year had Grubb stayed in Tuscaloosa. Just felt like Sheridan was the best choice given the cirumstances at the time but not the best choice if circumstances
had been different.

IMO, things would have been better, but overall from 40,000', I'm not sure things would have been dramatically different overall. But looking back on the season, having Gubbs in the room along with Sheridan could only have helped overall from where I sit... especially the in-game play calling at times. But going into the year, I did not expect the offensive struggles that the team ran into at times, so it's easier to say that now.

 

[Justneedme81]

IMO, things would have been better, but overall from 40,000', I'm not sure things would have been dramatically different overall. But looking back on the season, having Gubbs in the room along with Sheridan could only have helped overall from where I sit... especially the in-game play calling at times. But going into the year, I did not expect the offensive struggles that the team ran into at times, so it's easier to say that now.

So, I've went back and forth on this. I've struggled with the idea of Ryan Grubb coming back to t-town... I'm not sure if it will help the offense, but like @Brandon Van de Graaff said, there was lot of things that didn't work out on offense this year... So I'll look at this:

Issues with Nick Sheridan:
Offense was very predictable. Alabama had won 4 games by running same plays over and over. There were no creative plays. We used Milroe's legs and threw the ball more to Williams. The Vandy game happened. Offense was fine for most part. Defense relapsed. LB/Secondary play was an issue. They thought they could continue to get away with the offense. Offense Staff got lazy.

SC game. We struggled bad. SC figured out the offense for the most part. The two Interception was major issue. SC game was when Jalen lost his confidence and began to play horrible going forward.

Tennessee had a perfect game plan for Alabama offense. That's when we knew Sheridan hadn't made any adjustments since Vandy game and it kept getting worse. Oklahoma game was the worst game called for the coaches.

Mixing up the playcalls: Nick Sheridan was good at it when he got in flow.. When he wasn't in the flow... He was bad. The michgian game pissed me off. He had a chance to win the game. There was no reason for him to keep throwing the ball. Just run the damn ball to get 1st down. We likely would'v won the bowl game.

Would bringing Ryan Grubb help? I'm not so sure about that, but one thing that would fix is the flow of playcalling...

 

[TerryP]

Would bringing Ryan Grubb help? I'm not so sure about that, but one thing that would fix is the flow of playcalling...

Scenario: How much does a change at the QB position change the flow of play calling?

How much of a change in the flow are we going to see when we aren't watching an offense where the QB is encouraged, "if it's open, run" and yet he chooses to pass? (Because, in his mind, he's a passing QB.)

In my view, everyone is right there was a disconnect, a short, on offense this past season. A lot look at the starter when it's been the alternator. @musso

 

[mando]

Scenario: How much does a change at the QB position change the flow of play calling?

How much of a change in the flow are we going to see when we aren't watching an offense where the QB is encouraged, "if it's open, run" and yet he chooses to pass? (Because, in his mind, he's a passing QB.)

In my view, everyone is right there was a disconnect, a short, on offense this past season. A lot look at the starter when it's been the alternator. @musso

A little off in the weeds here but your comment made me think about this. You are probably familiar with this root cause analysis called Fishbone diagram and 5 whys technic for problem solving. I have done it many times to get to the real problem in my techincal profession. What I have found is that peoples gut feellings are usually wrong and there is more than one problem that contributed to the issue. I do not recall the exact example that is used in the training but is related to a vehicle issue. In the training example it turns out lack of routine oil change was the main problem. Just making a point our intuition is usually not as spot on as we want to think it is and there is usually more than one issue that needs to be solved.

 

[TerryP]

Just making a point our intuition is usually not as spot on as we want to think it is and there is usually more than one issue that needs to be solved.

This is a great comment because it fits perfectly with what I'm thinking and question regarding JM.

I see a lot of people feel that he was affected by NIL, specifically the money. Every day I'm leaning farther away from that theory. The money, not the image.

Because of where he has been propelled to as an ambassador, I see a "I'm Jalen."

Now, looking at '24?

"I'm Jalen. I'm a passing quarterback." There were decisions made in games based on that self-perception when the best option was to do what Jalen does. The staff encouraged him to do so; but.

My intuition told me what he and the team went through would be a maturation. It did grow some things and in retrospect I'm seeing ego as a big one.

But again...still putting a lot of the season "in context," ya know?

 

[Justneedme81]

A little off in the weeds here but your comment made me think about this. You are probably familiar with this root cause analysis called Fishbone diagram and 5 whys technic for problem solving. I have done it many times to get to the real problem in my techincal profession. What I have found is that peoples gut feellings are usually wrong and there is more than one problem that contributed to the issue. I do not recall the exact example that is used in the training but is related to a vehicle issue. In the training example it turns out lack of routine oil change was the main problem. Just making a point our intuition is usually not as spot on as we want to think it is and there is usually more than one issue that needs to be solved.

I'm familiar with that.

 

[mando]

This is a great comment because it fits perfectly with what I'm thinking and question regarding JM.

I see a lot of people feel that he was affected by NIL, specifically the money. Every day I'm leaning farther away from that theory. The money, not the image.

Because of where he has been propelled to as an ambassador, I see a "I'm Jalen."

Now, looking at '24?

"I'm Jalen. I'm a passing quarterback." There were decisions made in games based on that self-perception when the best option was to do what Jalen does. The staff encouraged him to do so; but.

My intuition told me what he and the team went through would be a maturation. It did grow some things and in retrospect I'm seeing ego as a big one.

But again...still putting a lot of the season "in context," ya know?

Yeah asking those 5 whys would help get to the bottom of it but of course we will not have access to JM to be able to do that. So it will remain just our hypothesis.

 

[mando]

I'm familiar with that.

Yeah when you post I usually ask why . Just messing with you @Justneedme81. Couldn't pass up a jab..

 

[Justneedme81]

Yeah when you post I usually ask why . Just messing with you @Justneedme81. Couldn't pass up a jab..

So, it's part of my job to ask why behind every theory that people come up with.

 

[PurlJam]

Yeah asking those 5 whys would help get to the bottom of it but of course we will not have access to JM to be able to do that. So it will remain just our hypothesis.

Never was good with the RCA 5 whys. Most of the time mine where 2 truths they didnt want to hear.
1. The equipment is old, worn out and a piece of shit.
2. You don't want to spend the money to fix it right or buy a new one.

 

[BamaFan334]

So, it's part of my job to ask why behind every theory that people come up with.

You work here?

 

[TerryP]

Yeah asking those 5 whys would help get to the bottom of it but of course we will not have access to JM to be able to do that. So it will remain just our hypothesis.

No. Not really. In a way this reminds me of Watts v Zow. It's not the competition, it's the way people are divided. There are people I trust who tell different, personal stories about this season. As each day passes the scales lean more one way than another and it's not good over questionable/bad.

 

[Justneedme81]

Never was good with the RCA 5 whys. Most of the time mine where 2 truths they didnt want to hear.
1. The equipment is old, worn out and a piece of shit.
2. You don't want to spend the money to fix it right or by a new one.

1. Why did the company didn't invest in equipment upgrades. What was the reason behind this to why they didn't do this?

2. Why didn't they do a study to see what solution they could come up with?

3. Who made this dumb decision to not upgrade the equipment.

4. Does this impact the other software and hardware as well

 

[Justneedme81]

No. Not really. In a way this reminds me of Watts v Zow. It's not the competition, it's the way people are divided. There are people I trust who tell different, personal stories about this season. As each day passes the scales lean more one way than another and it's not good over questionable/bad.

I got a feeling well hear stuff coming out in coming weeks and months.

 

[TerryP]

I got a feeling well hear stuff coming out in coming weeks and months.

...the farther he moves from the program the more people will speak up. Perception and reality are going to throw fists about this past season for years to come.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

FWIW, Grubb is officially out with the Seahawks.

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

FWIW, Grubb is officially out with the Seahawks.

He may wish to leave the facial hair in Seattle.