🏈 According to Thamel - Northwestern has fired Fitzgerald

UAgrad93 said:
“Rites of passage” or hazing started taking a turn for the worse when it started becoming straight up assault. Assault isn’t a rite of passage or a prank. I went through it in HS, in order to join our letterman club. It was rough, but I survived! Cold as Hell night, “record relay race” in a jockstrap, deer and dogs with standers using eggs as bullets, initiation meal while blindfolded, initiation bath and then hosed off before being allowed inside the locker room to shower. As a member my senior year, we had a guy go into hypothermic shock, which scared the piss out of everyone involved. Got us on the news though!😂
Pranks in college were mainly at the “stealing your towel” while you showered and you walking bare assed back to your locker to drip dry or having the bucket of ice water or Gatorade dumped on you as you showered.
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To officially join Alabama’s lettermen’s club (A Club), it used to involve several days of “hazing.” Each prospective member was required to dress in overalls, a flannel shirt, jock strap (only-no underwear), straw hat, no socks and have a signed pair of girl’s (coed) underwear. They did this for two days (to cover Thursday and Friday classes). At any time a current A Club member could yell at you to do something (pushups, jumping jacks, carry somebody’s books, climb a tree, etc) and you had to respond, “Yes boss man” and do it (I distinctly remember having to dive into the fountain in front of Bryant Hall to avoid an air raid). On Friday night, you were paired with another new member and a couple of existing members who would drive you around Tuscaloosa and give you various assignments (projects varied from begging for money, crawling through mud/cesspools, singing in the middle of the street until you got x people to clap, dropped off in a bad section of town and told meet back at x by y o’clock, etc). During this time you were given a bottle of something to drink and some beer. After each task you were loaded back into the vehicle (they tried to get pickup trucks so if you threw up it wouldn’t be on upholstery) and told by the next stop the bottle had to be “this full/empty” and x number of cans had to be empty (This was usually in January/February so it wasn’t warm - I remember wearing the 12-pack box to keep my ears warm as we drove around). At some point in the night everybody would meet up at a stinky swamp location where there would be relay races through the water. After so many races, somebody determined that it was enough and everyone was congratulated.

This ritual was stopped by the school not because of hazing, but because the “boss man” behavior was considered racist.
 
OldPlayer said:
To officially join Alabama’s lettermen’s club (A Club), it used to involve several days of “hazing.” Each prospective member was required to dress in overalls, a flannel shirt, jock strap (only-no underwear), straw hat, no socks and have a signed pair of girl’s (coed) underwear. They did this for two days (to cover Thursday and Friday classes). At any time a current A Club member could yell at you to do something (pushups, jumping jacks, carry somebody’s books, climb a tree, etc) and you had to respond, “Yes boss man” and do it (I distinctly remember having to dive into the fountain in front of Bryant Hall to avoid an air raid). On Friday night, you were paired with another new member and a couple of existing members who would drive you around Tuscaloosa and give you various assignments (projects varied from begging for money, crawling through mud/cesspools, singing in the middle of the street until you got x people to clap, dropped off in a bad section of town and told meet back at x by y o’clock, etc). During this time you were given a bottle of something to drink and some beer. After each task you were loaded back into the vehicle (they tried to get pickup trucks so if you threw up it wouldn’t be on upholstery) and told by the next stop the bottle had to be “this full/empty” and x number of cans had to be empty (This was usually in January/February so it wasn’t warm - I remember wearing the 12-pack box to keep my ears warm as we drove around). At some point in the night everybody would meet up at a stinky swamp location where there would be relay races through the water. After so many races, somebody determined that it was enough and everyone was congratulated.

This ritual was stopped by the school not because of hazing, but because the “boss man” behavior was considered racist.
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I don't want to be in any club that bad.
 


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Intrigued to see who they'll hire now. I've seen Michigan's, and Ohio State's offensive coordinators mentioned, but I don't think they'll leave for this job. I think another one mentioned was Willie Fritz, if they were able to snag him, that be a fantastic hire for their program.
 
Willie Fritz is a southern/Texan kind of guy
I can’t see him surviving that Yankee culture.. Willy Fritz looks for tough southern men


I see a lot of the players punishing the administration of Northwestern for firing Fitzgerald
 either with the transfer portal or just basically not giving any effort..
 
24and7 said:
Willie Fritz is a southern/Texan kind of guy
I can’t see him surviving that Yankee culture.. Willy Fritz looks for tough southern men


I see a lot of the players punishing the administration of Northwestern for firing Fitzgerald
 either with the transfer portal or just basically not giving any effort..
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This type of thing has happened before. He'd get the chance to lead a power 5 school, while also getting a hefty pay increase. It be hard for him to say no to them, but you never know, people want different things.
 
Scrape&Search1032 said:
Intrigued to see who they'll hire now. I've seen Michigan's, and Ohio State's offensive coordinators mentioned, but I don't think they'll leave for this job. I think another one mentioned was Willie Fritz, if they were able to snag him, that be a fantastic hire for their program.
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This is a Mike Price-Mike Shula situation. It’s too late to have a full coaching search and whoever is picked doesn’t have time to install his systems. Finding a coaching staff who wants to come in under theses circumstances is close to impossible.
 
OldPlayer said:
To officially join Alabama’s lettermen’s club (A Club), it used to involve several days of “hazing.” Each prospective member was required to dress in overalls, a flannel shirt, jock strap (only-no underwear), straw hat, no socks and have a signed pair of girl’s (coed) underwear. They did this for two days (to cover Thursday and Friday classes). At any time a current A Club member could yell at you to do something (pushups, jumping jacks, carry somebody’s books, climb a tree, etc) and you had to respond, “Yes boss man” and do it (I distinctly remember having to dive into the fountain in front of Bryant Hall to avoid an air raid). On Friday night, you were paired with another new member and a couple of existing members who would drive you around Tuscaloosa and give you various assignments (projects varied from begging for money, crawling through mud/cesspools, singing in the middle of the street until you got x people to clap, dropped off in a bad section of town and told meet back at x by y o’clock, etc). During this time you were given a bottle of something to drink and some beer. After each task you were loaded back into the vehicle (they tried to get pickup trucks so if you threw up it wouldn’t be on upholstery) and told by the next stop the bottle had to be “this full/empty” and x number of cans had to be empty (This was usually in January/February so it wasn’t warm - I remember wearing the 12-pack box to keep my ears warm as we drove around). At some point in the night everybody would meet up at a stinky swamp location where there would be relay races through the water. After so many races, somebody determined that it was enough and everyone was congratulated.

This ritual was stopped by the school not because of hazing, but because the “boss man” behavior was considered racist.
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Although I wouldn't want any part of this, I don't see that form of hazing as anything all that bad. What is typically part of hazing these days always seem to revolve around sexual abuse of some kind, and that's not only uncalled for, but completely disgusting. Why has that become such a thing?
 
c5vetman said:
Although I wouldn't want any part of this, I don't see that form of hazing as anything all that bad. What is typically part of hazing these days always seem to revolve around sexual abuse of some kind, and that's not only uncalled for, but completely disgusting. Why has that become such a thing?
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I happen to agree with you. It's gone from shaving heads as a high school Freshman on the football team, running gassers for a new coach to see what kind of team he has, passing around bottles of Mad Dog 20/20 heated up on an engine block with your pledge brothers until you throw up, making a kid dip until he pukes, being blindfolded with Pink Floyd blaring in the background in a dark room and living in a 10x10 room with ten other guys for three days outside of class and not showering for a fraternity, but now it's all this weird sexual crap these days. I was ok with the first few there (although very nervous as a younger kid), but I would fucking shoot someone that tried to walk up on me sexually and try to touch me or force themselves on me. I have very thick skin and can be pretty crude, but anything gay and sexual with another man when I claim to be straight is just freaking strange and weird. I have never ever seen the appeal to that or the sense to think that was ok. It just never crossed my mind and is very disturbing the trend that is happening.
 
OldPlayer said:
This is a Mike Price-Mike Shula situation. It’s too late to have a full coaching search and whoever is picked doesn’t have time to install his systems. Finding a coaching staff who wants to come in under theses circumstances is close to impossible.
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Probably right. However, I'm not sure they'd want to hire a guy in the current staff, considering the situation. They're just in a very bad spot right now.
 

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