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I've eaten freeze dried meals for over three thousand miles of hiking. It's good for twenty or more years. I've eaten stuff that I'd had for over five years, just fine. Mountain House, Alpine Aire, Backpackers Pantry, Peak, they're all good, but recently they've been adding a good bit of fat to it to get the calorie counts up for backpackers burning 4,000 to 6,000 calories a day.

If I wanted to ensure I had a year's supply of food, I would buy the buckets of Mountain House stuff. Costco has that or similar products from time to time. Also, don't forget about the Mormons - they require their believers to have big food supplies and they offer freeze dried stuff fairly cheap. The prepper sites may not be the best price, or quality.

RTR,

Tim
 
I've eaten freeze dried meals for over three thousand miles of hiking. It's good for twenty or more years. I've eaten stuff that I'd had for over five years, just fine. Mountain House, Alpine Aire, Backpackers Pantry, Peak, they're all good, but recently they've been adding a good bit of fat to it to get the calorie counts up for backpackers burning 4,000 to 6,000 calories a day.

If I wanted to ensure I had a year's supply of food, I would buy the buckets of Mountain House stuff. Costco has that or similar products from time to time. Also, don't forget about the Mormons - they require their believers to have big food supplies and they offer freeze dried stuff fairly cheap. The prepper sites may not be the best price, or quality.

RTR,

Tim
If I wanted to ensure I had a years supply of food I'd put some vegetable seeds away and have plenty of ammo.
 
Springfield has announced its new XD generation, mod.3 with a 9 priced at just $325.
I wish SA/HS Poduckt would put the passive grip safety option (on the xd series) on all their gun models.. including the high power..
But I do think they made a mistake, not making it in the 40 Cal and 45 ACP😉
 
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I wish SA/HS Poduckt would put the passive grip safety option (on the xd series) on all their gun models.. including the high power..
But I do think they made a mistake, not making it in the 40 Cal and 45 ACP😉
I think the 9 is just the start, they'll expand. I have the mod.2 compact as a carry in a 9, and I have the 10 in a full frame under the XD Elite moniker. I absolutely love my 10mm. All of these are set up the same way, no manual safety, grip and takeup, and a round indicator.


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Agree with the ammo, the seeds would give you food for the next year, not this one.
Seeds would give me food this year unless it's really late in the year. I just planted, turnips, mustard, cabbage, rutabaga, carrots, and collards for my folks. Mustard and turnips will will be ready to eat around 30 days after planting and the rest won't be long after. Spring planting is ready in summer, not the next year. Just have to know what to plant and when to plant it but you can grow year round in Alabama.
 
Seeds would give me food this year unless it's really late in the year. I just planted, turnips, mustard, cabbage, rutabaga, carrots, and collards for my folks. Mustard and turnips will will be ready to eat around 30 days after planting and the rest won't be long after. Spring planting is ready in summer, not the next year. Just have to know what to plant and when to plant it but you can grow year round in Alabama.
North to south, roughly where are you in the state?
 
Seeds would give me food this year unless it's really late in the year. I just planted, turnips, mustard, cabbage, rutabaga, carrots, and collards for my folks. Mustard and turnips will will be ready to eat around 30 days after planting and the rest won't be long after. Spring planting is ready in summer, not the next year. Just have to know what to plant and when to plant it but you can grow year round in Alabama.
Same type of environment here. Two years ago I had four different crops of beans; bush. I've pulled tomatoes in December. I didn't do anything this year because, largely, I had other projects. Then...still got about 2 lbs of Okra from last year in the freezer. And beans, and peas.

A lot of what you mention here I can grab, pretty cheaply, and the fair grounds. I know. Sounds crazy, right? The hispanics have more than 20K sq ft of fresh, every Sat and Sun. Literally, refrigerated truck running just outside their "location." And it's HUGE! It's local. A guy I buy Blueberry Jam from at the Summerville Farmer's market grows a lot of their stuff. (Damn good jam. I've got his Strawberry and Raspberry in the fridge.)

One thing I haven't seen a big jump in price is tomatoes. I use Romas a lot. Not a sandwich tomato, or one I'd put on a burger, but a lot in salads and recipes. They are .21 at Walmart right now. Five for a buck works for me.

I DO miss the "Tiny Tom" tomato plants I've had the last few years. A lot of that has to do with working in the yard and pulling a dozen to munch on real quick. Like freakin' candy. IF you've never grown one. DO SO!

Another little story...

One of my neighbors garden has been torn up this season. I told him, "you will need to sprinkle Fox urine around to keep the wild life out." He didn't. Neither did they. It's a lesson I learned years ago when I looked out the window and saw a BIG ASS rat eating my tomatoes. On its hind legs; just munching. It came from an undeveloped area about 100 yards from here. Cows, still there. The guy sells 12-14 a year and doesn't buy meat at the store. (He's also a weird SOB.)

Enough of my rant...now I'm hungry.
 
Same type of environment here. Two years ago I had four different crops of beans; bush. I've pulled tomatoes in December. I didn't do anything this year because, largely, I had other projects. Then...still got about 2 lbs of Okra from last year in the freezer. And beans, and peas.

A lot of what you mention here I can grab, pretty cheaply, and the fair grounds. I know. Sounds crazy, right? The hispanics have more than 20K sq ft of fresh, every Sat and Sun. Literally, refrigerated truck running just outside their "location." And it's HUGE! It's local. A guy I buy Blueberry Jam from at the Summerville Farmer's market grows a lot of their stuff. (Damn good jam. I've got his Strawberry and Raspberry in the fridge.)

One thing I haven't seen a big jump in price is tomatoes. I use Romas a lot. Not a sandwich tomato, or one I'd put on a burger, but a lot in salads and recipes. They are .21 at Walmart right now. Five for a buck works for me.

I DO miss the "Tiny Tom" tomato plants I've had the last few years. A lot of that has to do with working in the yard and pulling a dozen to munch on real quick. Like freakin' candy. IF you've never grown one. DO SO!

Another little story...

One of my neighbors garden has been torn up this season. I told him, "you will need to sprinkle Fox urine around to keep the wild life out." He didn't. Neither did they. It's a lesson I learned years ago when I looked out the window and saw a BIG ASS rat eating my tomatoes. On its hind legs; just munching. It came from an undeveloped area about 100 yards from here. Cows, still there. The guy sells 12-14 a year and doesn't buy meat at the store. (He's also a weird SOB.)

Enough of my rant...now I'm hungry.
One of the few things I miss about being stationary is having a garden. I usually plant for my folks twice a year, try to time our visits around that plus it's about the only decent weather times in south alabama. Grew up raising and hunting most of what we ate and something i want to make sure my kids know how to do. It's amazing what you can produce in a half acre garden. No matter what happens to the country I've never been worried about going hungry. I may get tired of eating what I would have to eat buy i have no doubts about being able to feed my family. If I were single I wouldn't do it as the price and availability of vegetables would make it easier to just buy them but I've met a lot of people who I have no doubt would starve to death of the grocery stores closed.
 
If I were single I wouldn't do it as the price and availability of vegetables would make it easier to just buy them but I've met a lot of people who I have no doubt would starve to death of the grocery stores closed.
I am. And that's only part of the reason I grow. I like the experience. Got a bit of a green thumb...and there isn't a lot more relaxing than watering the garden as the sun breaks.

It all goes back to a lawn company I had in the late 80's...

Just thinkin' about this. I could plant Okra right now and harvest before it gets cold. I don't need it...but, the climate.
 
They're about 150 miles north of mobile but there's not much difference in planting times in any part. I lived about 60 miles north of huntsville and my planting time was about a week different than my dad's.
I guess if you're Linden vs. Spring Hill (just as an example), there would be at least a week on planting times, but you'd have a far greater chance of a disruptive cold snap in TN. I get the winter veggies and greens - a good patch of mixed greens (we always did turnips and mustard) will keep anyone from starving.
 
I guess if you're Linden vs. Spring Hill (just as an example), there would be at least a week on planting times, but you'd have a far greater chance of a disruptive cold snap in TN. I get the winter veggies and greens - a good patch of mixed greens (we always did turnips and mustard) will keep anyone from starving.
Yeah Linden isn't far from where I'm at currently. Lived in Decherd TN when I was up there. Like you said, the first and last frost is different by about a week. Doesn't matter too much on the fall greens but it does on the spring green beans, english peas, etc. Some veggies can take a frost and some can't. Mid November to mid February is about the only time you can't plant something or shouldn't, guess you could try. Green house to get greens started and you could plant then.

I said seeds if I wanted food for a year due to easy to store, not much space needed, taste and price. If I wanted to store meals I'd dehydrate some leftovers but I don't enjoy eating those meals as much as fresh food.
 
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