🏈 ***Way too early Bama/Chokelahoma pregame Thread***

[252BAMA]

Dayumn, he was throwing the ball off his front foot! How was that not corrected in HS!?

 

[JoshB]

@BamaBoyJosh, I caught this a week, maybe a week and a half ago.

I saw that too. Before I saw him in person the only things I had seen were the same ole highlights that everyone has seen, but I was shocked in that first quarter when I think they threw two passes (none completed). His backs and the read option was really the whole offense, but when they did try the vertical game he killed them on scrambles.

 

[jdpas29]

i do agree on one point with this guy is that pressuring Murray is a better option than spying and sitting back to pass protect. Bama will give up yards to them with the QB running, but that is better than giving him time to scramble around and throw to the open receiver. Expect some big plays by OU, but inconsistent drives.

i guess the argument is that Alabama's secondary may be the best they've faced? and in that case, maybe protecting the pass and spying is a better option? Probably wouldn't know that until the game gets going.

Interesting matchup tho

 

[94 Grad]

Personally, I don't want to see Alabama attempt to just run the ball (like Army.) It's not what "got 'em here." I don't believe the defense will be able to contain their offense. Army didn't, relatively speaking. OU put up 28 in 15 minutes.

Maybe... but I'd prefer some 10 to 12 play scores in lieu of what we seem to have lately scoring in under 2 minutes and 3 plays. Don't get me wrong, I'll take either... but if I get to choose, I'd much rater see longer drives to TDs.

 

[OriginalBamachris]

Tua seems relaxed in background.

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

A friend of mine has two tickets for the Orange Bowl game vs Chokelahoma. He paid $2,500 each but he didn't realize when he bought them, it was going to be on the same day as his wedding. If you are interested, he is looking for someone to take his place...It's at Holy Cross Church, on Lake Ave at 3pm. The bride's name is Nicole, she's 5'4", about 115 lbs, good cook too.....She'll be the one in the white dress.

 

[bamaledge]

Damm

A friend of mine has two tickets for the Orange Bowl game vs Chokelahoma. He paid $2,500 each but he didn't realize when he bought them, it was going to be on the same day as his wedding. If you are interested, he is looking for someone to take his place...It's at Holy Cross Church, on Lake Ave at 3pm. The bride's name is Nicole, she's 5'4", about 115 lbs, good cook too.....She'll be the one in the white dress.[/QUOTE
Damn SLO, now dat phunny right der!

 

[EasyTider]

A friend of mine has two tickets for the Orange Bowl game vs Chokelahoma. He paid $2,500 each but he didn't realize when he bought them, it was going to be on the same day as his wedding. If you are interested, he is looking for someone to take his place...It's at Holy Cross Church, on Lake Ave at 3pm. The bride's name is Nicole, she's 5'4", about 115 lbs, good cook too.....She'll be the one in the white dress.

A classic

 

[Elderfalsedemigod]

Probably not a popular opinion but having watched 3-4 games Oklahoma played this year their offense will challenge this defense. A lot of folks point to the Army defense as holding the OU offense back. It was actually the Army offense that did that by holding the ball so long. OU had 8 possessions including OT. 4 TDs, 1 punt, 1 pick and 2 turnover on downs. They ran only 32 offensive plays. By contrast UGA ran 80 plays in the SECCG

Anybody who thinks the Alabama offense holds the ball for 44 minutes and OU only gets it for 15 has some really dark crimson shades on

I think Alabama has to score 45 to win this game. JMO and I hope it is wrong

 

[#80]

Probably not a popular opinion but having watched 3-4 games Oklahoma played this year their offense will challenge this defense. A lot of folks point to the Army defense as holding the OU offense back. It was actually the Army offense that did that by holding the ball so long. OU had 8 possessions including OT. 4 TDs, 1 punt, 1 pick and 2 turnover on downs. They ran only 32 offensive plays. By contrast UGA ran 80 plays in the SECCG

Anybody who thinks the Alabama offense holds the ball for 44 minutes and OU only gets it for 15 has some really dark crimson shades on

I think Alabama has to score 45 to win this game. JMO and I hope it is wrong

We may have 45 at halftime.

 

[ComeOnSon]

Here's a breakdown from Ben Litvin on Twitter.

I thought I’d share a few *very general* — and very late night — thoughts on how I think the Alabama defense should approach their matchup against the Oklahoma offense.

The biggest thing to kinda get out of the way at the beginning is that there’s no stopping this Oklahoma offense. They’re gonna score plenty of points on December 29th.

Their offense is one of two best in the country. Kyler is one of the two best quarterbacks in the country. Their offensive line is one of, if not the best unit in the entire country. Their skill guys are awesome, particularly Hollywood who is as electric as any receiver in CFB.

And Lincoln Riley is probably the best offensive coach in the country. It’s a crazy combination ... we’re talking about a historically good offense. They are an absolute machine.

And Alabama’s defense is good. Really good, even. But they’re not elite as a whole, nor are they elite in all that many specific areas. There’s no plus matchup here that can be leveraged to the point of turning the overall matchup in Alabama’s favor.
Off the top of my head, Oklahoma’s 25th percentile offensive performance probably puts them around 27 points. 50th percentile puts them around 35 points. And their 75th percentile puts them around 48 points. Their floor is really high, as is their ceiling.

But if Oklahoma scores 35 points — my rough guest at their 50th percentile performance — Alabama’s win expectancy is probably upwards of 75%. Maybe even higher. 35 points allowed would be a win for Alabama ... and there’s something rather freeing in that conclusion.

Alabama’s defense can go out there, give up plenty of points, and still effectively do their job. But that presents two challenges ... one psychological and one schematic.

I won’t spend much time discussing the psychological one, but it’s very real and significant. This game presents the one of the biggest challenges to Alabama’s “process”. Continuing to play the next play while giving up chunks of yards is an immense mental challenge.

And whether the football coaches, mental coaches, and team leaders can adequately prepare the entire defense for that challenge will go an extremely long way in determining whether Alabama gives up 35 points or 52 points.

The next challenge is schematic. One of the best parts about having the sort of margin for error that the Alabama defense has is that it frees them up to take chances. And that’s what’s going to get stops. An aggressive defense that’s hunting turnovers and splash plays.

I’ve seen lots of suggestions that Alabama should employ passive strategies to keep Kyler in the pocket. Mush rush and spy. If you do that then Kyler is going to have all day in the pocket and it’ll look exactly like one of his conference games. He’ll pick Alabama apart.

The only way they’re going to get stops is if they get after Kyler. That means allowing your edge rushers to get upfield. That means lots of TT twists. That means tons of different manufactured pressures. They absolutely *must* create negative plays and turnovers.

And all those things will, inevitably, free up some running lanes for Kyler. He’s going to make some plays with his legs. And it’s going to lead to points. But that’s ok, because Alabama can afford to give up plenty of points.

The tradeoff is well worth it. Oklahoma is going to score no matter what. But this way, Alabama maximizes their chances of creating mistakes. Kyler is not going to beat himself against a defense that plays passively. He’s way too good for that and so is the scheme.

Remember that amazing Chiefs/Rams game? The Rams didn’t line up and stop the Chiefs once that whole game. They won because their pass rush forced Mahomes into some mistakes and the Rams offense took care of the rest. That’s Alabama’s path to victory.

Still calling bullshit.

The only way Chokelahoma scores 30 is in garbage time to make the score look less embarrassing.

They.
Have.
Only.
Been.
Tested.
Defensively.
Once.
All.
Year.
By.
A.
Scrub.
Army.
Team.

That’s new. Describing one of the service academy teams as “scrubs”.

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

Here's a breakdown from Ben Litvin on Twitter.

I thought I’d share a few *very general* — and very late night — thoughts on how I think the Alabama defense should approach their matchup against the Oklahoma offense.

The biggest thing to kinda get out of the way at the beginning is that there’s no stopping this Oklahoma offense. They’re gonna score plenty of points on December 29th.

Their offense is one of two best in the country. Kyler is one of the two best quarterbacks in the country. Their offensive line is one of, if not the best unit in the entire country. Their skill guys are awesome, particularly Hollywood who is as electric as any receiver in CFB.

And Lincoln Riley is probably the best offensive coach in the country. It’s a crazy combination ... we’re talking about a historically good offense. They are an absolute machine.

And Alabama’s defense is good. Really good, even. But they’re not elite as a whole, nor are they elite in all that many specific areas. There’s no plus matchup here that can be leveraged to the point of turning the overall matchup in Alabama’s favor.
Off the top of my head, Oklahoma’s 25th percentile offensive performance probably puts them around 27 points. 50th percentile puts them around 35 points. And their 75th percentile puts them around 48 points. Their floor is really high, as is their ceiling.

But if Oklahoma scores 35 points — my rough guest at their 50th percentile performance — Alabama’s win expectancy is probably upwards of 75%. Maybe even higher. 35 points allowed would be a win for Alabama ... and there’s something rather freeing in that conclusion.

Alabama’s defense can go out there, give up plenty of points, and still effectively do their job. But that presents two challenges ... one psychological and one schematic.

I won’t spend much time discussing the psychological one, but it’s very real and significant. This game presents the one of the biggest challenges to Alabama’s “process”. Continuing to play the next play while giving up chunks of yards is an immense mental challenge.

And whether the football coaches, mental coaches, and team leaders can adequately prepare the entire defense for that challenge will go an extremely long way in determining whether Alabama gives up 35 points or 52 points.

The next challenge is schematic. One of the best parts about having the sort of margin for error that the Alabama defense has is that it frees them up to take chances. And that’s what’s going to get stops. An aggressive defense that’s hunting turnovers and splash plays.

I’ve seen lots of suggestions that Alabama should employ passive strategies to keep Kyler in the pocket. Mush rush and spy. If you do that then Kyler is going to have all day in the pocket and it’ll look exactly like one of his conference games. He’ll pick Alabama apart.

The only way they’re going to get stops is if they get after Kyler. That means allowing your edge rushers to get upfield. That means lots of TT twists. That means tons of different manufactured pressures. They absolutely *must* create negative plays and turnovers.

And all those things will, inevitably, free up some running lanes for Kyler. He’s going to make some plays with his legs. And it’s going to lead to points. But that’s ok, because Alabama can afford to give up plenty of points.

The tradeoff is well worth it. Oklahoma is going to score no matter what. But this way, Alabama maximizes their chances of creating mistakes. Kyler is not going to beat himself against a defense that plays passively. He’s way too good for that and so is the scheme.

Remember that amazing Chiefs/Rams game? The Rams didn’t line up and stop the Chiefs once that whole game. They won because their pass rush forced Mahomes into some mistakes and the Rams offense took care of the rest. That’s Alabama’s path to victory.

Still calling bullshit.

The only way Chokelahoma scores 30 is in garbage time to make the score look less embarrassing.

They.
Have.
Only.
Been.
Tested.
Defensively.
Once.
All.
Year.
By.
A.
Scrub.
Army.
Team.

That’s new. Describing one of the service academy teams as “scrubs”.

Comparatively, to us, from a talent/scheme standpoint.

NOT literally.

 

[Elderfalsedemigod]

We may have 45 at halftime.

I ain't gonna argue with that. As good as I think the OU offense is I have that much disdain for their defense.

I will be sorely displeased if Alabama has to punt on any of their first 4 possessions

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

He is going to be tough to beat out......him and Tuilia will push each other

Don't you think Mac will have something to say about this?

Don't know. Mac is decent but these 2 are more than that. Paul is a big kid.
Regardless. Future is bright at QB

Mac may end up transferring at the end of spring ball.

I really think Tyson just might be the real deal.

Does anybody know what 'Lia' s speed that was clocked at recruiting combines?

After seeing some of his highlights this year, it's become pretty clear that he just doesn't have the same arm talent as his big bro. Could he see a move to slot receiver if he's around 4.4 speed? That would put him and his brother at a nice tandem for a year.

Then maybe Tyson and 'Lia battle it out in spring of 2020, and if Tyson wins,' Lia already will have had tons of snaps at WR/RB/ATH.

If Mac does end up transferring after this upcoming session of spring ball, look for us to make a hard push for another 2020 QB commit.

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

He is going to be tough to beat out......him and Tuilia will push each other

Don't you think Mac will have something to say about this?

Don't know. Mac is decent but these 2 are more than that. Paul is a big kid.
Regardless. Future is bright at QB

Mac may end up transferring at the end of spring ball.

I really think Tyson just might be the real deal.

Does anybody know what 'Lia' s speed that was clocked at recruiting combines?

After seeing some of his highlights this year, it's become pretty clear that he just doesn't have the same arm talent as his big bro. Could he see a move to slot receiver if he's around 4.4 speed? That would put him and his brother at a nice tandem for a year.

Then maybe Tyson and 'Lia battle it out in spring of 2020, and if Tyson wins,' Lia already will have had tons of snaps at WR/RB/ATH.

If Mac does end up transferring after this upcoming session of spring ball, look for us to make a hard push for another 2020 QB commit.

Hanging on to that current committed QB from Jax is going to difficult.

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

Saban: Eyabi Anoma misses practice 'to sort some things out'

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

Nick Saban updates Tua Tagovailoa’s status, talks OU prep

 

[OldPlayer]

Saban: Eyabi Anoma misses practice 'to sort some things out'

With exams just ending, sounds like academics.

 

[BamaFan334]

Seeing where Eyabi Anoma missed practice for personal reasons. He is saying he isn't transferring, but people love eluding to that with big star recruits. I know he has posted some pictures in the hospital with his momma. Anyone have any news on this?