| FTBL Unsportsmanlike fan conduct

[laurajmoss]

It just defies imagination........

"Nastiest Fans -- USC's, last Saturday for the Notre Dame game. There were churlish drivers by the dozens en route to the stadium. There was the surly elevator operator who tried to tell a woman (Irish fan) escorting her son in a wheelchair that she had to leave her two young daughters behind to wait for the next elevator. And there were the fans spewing penitentiary-worthy profanity at the Notre Dame players and coaches as they exited the field. That "SC" stands for Stay Classy, Trojans fans."

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&page=dash0814&sportCat=ncf

 

[TerryP]

He's just singling out a fan base...

The "F U Saban" chants at LSU this year fit that as well...loud enough, they were clearly heard on the replay...heck, I could find the video and prove it...just take my word.

 

[Guest]

It only a game people.

 

[reger60]

You know, there's a point where common sense has enter in to these situations. I know good and well that if I go to an Eagles football game in Philly all decked out in my Giants gear, I will be verbally abused, have miscellaneous sundries lobbed at me and would likely be physically assaulted after the game. That's why I don't do it!

No. It doesn't excuse the behavior of boorish fans, but people honestly have to be realistic about the behavioral expectations of today's drunk and obnoxious sports fan. It's like walking into a lion's cage wearing a sausage suit and then whining to the doctors later in the emergency room about your missing limbs.

 

[Guest]

He's just singling out a fan base...

The "F U Saban" chants at LSU this year fit that as well...loud enough, they were clearly heard on the replay...heck, I could find the video and prove it...just take my word.

I want a video! haha

 

[bear facts]

He's just singling out a fan base...

The "F U Saban" chants at LSU this year fit that as well...loud enough, they were clearly heard on the replay...heck, I could find the video and prove it...just take my word.

I want a video! haha

***WARNING*** Very Strong Language:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPkQZ25plDo&feature=related[/youtube]

What a way to treat the individual who led LSU to its first football NC in almost 50 years. :roll:

 

[Guest]

He's just singling out a fan base...

The "F U Saban" chants at LSU this year fit that as well...loud enough, they were clearly heard on the replay...heck, I could find the video and prove it...just take my word.

I want a video! haha

***WARNING*** Very Strong Language:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPkQZ25plDo&feature=related[/youtube]

What a way to treat the individual who led LSU to its first football NC in almost 50 years. :roll:

F U Saban, for making us relevant again.

 

[laurajmoss]

He's just singling out a fan base...

The "F U Saban" chants at LSU this year fit that as well...loud enough, they were clearly heard on the replay...heck, I could find the video and prove it...just take my word.

Oh I believe you. I'm not reacting to the fact this article pointed at USC in particular because I realize the same thing happens all over the place.

But come one--someone giving a hard time to a mother with small kids helping someone in a wheelchair? How low can you go? And it's not just drunks that pull that rubbish either

 

[Guest]

You know, there's a point where common sense has enter in to these situations. I know good and well that if I go to an Eagles football game in Philly all decked out in my Giants gear, I will be verbally abused, have miscellaneous sundries lobbed at me and would likely be physically assaulted after the game. That's why I don't do it!

No. It doesn't excuse the behavior of boorish fans, but people honestly have to be realistic about the behavioral expectations of today's drunk and obnoxious sports fan. It's like walking into a lion's cage wearing a sausage suit and then whining to the doctors later in the emergency room about your missing limbs.

I take issue with Boorish behavior and believe that it should not simply be accepted. At no point has the atmosphere been conceived, designed, or intended to be literally hostile. In the cases that it has been you see situation where the event has been hijacked.

We should no more accept this than we should accept our neighborhood being taken over by Drug Dealers and Prostitutes, or that our Sisters we violated because someone thinks their clothing choice meant that they were asking for it. "It is the way it is" may be the case, but it should not be accepted.

I'm all for Passion at football games, but when the focus of the passion no long is aimed at supporting your team but is targeted at the opposing fans it has become harassment. If the same behavior the following day across town would warrant police stepping in, then it is unacceptable at the game.

I would hope that I would not be alone in saying that if a fellow Bama fan crossed that line in targeting a visiting fan I would step up and face down that Bama fan on the matter, calling security myself if I had to.

 

[TerryP]

He's just singling out a fan base...

The "F U Saban" chants at LSU this year fit that as well...loud enough, they were clearly heard on the replay...heck, I could find the video and prove it...just take my word.

Oh I believe you. I'm not reacting to the fact this article pointed at USC in particular because I realize the same thing happens all over the place.

But come one--someone giving a hard time to a mother with small kids helping someone in a wheelchair? How low can you go? And it's not just drunks that pull that rubbish either

I understand that viewpoint.

Two LSU students, working for the student paper, had a video up on their site about how they were treated when they were dressed in Alabama gear.

I haven't found the video...although I'm not going to spend more time looking for it. But, here's the transcript of the article they wrote about their experience.

Our View: Tailgating as 'Bama fans highlighted LSU's belligerence

The Editorial Board

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Published: Tuesday, November 11, 2008

Updated: Tuesday, November 11, 2008

Editor’s note: This staff editorial was written by Editorial Board member Gerri Sax. We support her views expressed in this column.


Last weekend was one of the most surreal experiences of my life, and I’m not talking about the football team’s heartbreaking loss to Alabama.

I’m talking about the hours I spent around campus tailgating — but not as a regular Tiger.

For this game, a fellow staffer and I, armed with a video camera and microphone, ditched our normal attire, threw on crimson-and-white sweatshirts and walked through campus to see what it would be like behind enemy lines.

Most people know how aggressive LSU’s fans are. But to see first hand just how hostile and offensive Tiger fans can be really opened up my eyes.

The final video of our experiences on lsureveille.com is an accurate depiction of what we encountered, but it was only the tip of the iceberg. Here are a few things we couldn’t fit in the video.

Vulgar language has never really bothered me, and the incessant “Tiger-baiting” and
“Around the bowl and down the hole, Roll Tide, Roll” mocking were the least of my worries.

Almost every tailgate spot we visited greeted us with the same expressions. The women called us “bitches,” and the men called us “cunts” followed by the traditional “Rip. Rip. Rip. Rap. Rap. Rap. You ‘Bama girls got the clap, clap, clap!” cheer.

And if that wasn’t enough, the amount of times we were spit on also struck a nerve.
Spitting on someone is one of the most degrading things a human being can do to another.
Verbal abuse is powerful, but when things get physical, that’s a little more effective.

The most significant physical encounters were from male Tiger fans. And they all involved some kind of inappropriate gestures. We were groped and squeezed by just about every guy we interviewed.

Not only did things get physical for us personally, our camera equipment also has some bruises as well. I can’t even count the number of times a Tiger fan ran up to the camera and shouted expletives or just yelled at the lens.

We witnessed what other teams’ fans encounter every home game and just how animated Tiger fans are before a big game.

But maybe we need to tone it down — just a bit.

I'll add this.

When I've made trips to the schools in the SEC I've only had one bad experience.

One.

That was at South Carolina with a couple of grown men getting in my mothers face and yelling when we lost while fRan was the coach. While it did tick me off a bit, I laugh now thinking back about it...the main instigator was doing all the yelling, all the time wearing a pair of sunglasses with one of the eye pieces missing.

 

[Outlaw]

It only a game people.

Word...

 

[Nate]

He's just singling out a fan base...

The "F U Saban" chants at LSU this year fit that as well...loud enough, they were clearly heard on the replay...heck, I could find the video and prove it...just take my word.

Oh I believe you. I'm not reacting to the fact this article pointed at USC in particular because I realize the same thing happens all over the place.

But come one--someone giving a hard time to a mother with small kids helping someone in a wheelchair? How low can you go? And it's not just drunks that pull that rubbish either

I understand that viewpoint.

Two LSU students, working for the student paper, had a video up on their site about how they were treated when they were dressed in Alabama gear.

I haven't found the video...although I'm not going to spend more time looking for it. But, here's the transcript of the article they wrote about their experience.

Our View: Tailgating as 'Bama fans highlighted LSU's belligerence

The Editorial Board

Print this article
Share this article

Published: Tuesday, November 11, 2008

Updated: Tuesday, November 11, 2008

Editor’s note: This staff editorial was written by Editorial Board member Gerri Sax. We support her views expressed in this column.


Last weekend was one of the most surreal experiences of my life, and I’m not talking about the football team’s heartbreaking loss to Alabama.

I’m talking about the hours I spent around campus tailgating — but not as a regular Tiger.

For this game, a fellow staffer and I, armed with a video camera and microphone, ditched our normal attire, threw on crimson-and-white sweatshirts and walked through campus to see what it would be like behind enemy lines.

Most people know how aggressive LSU’s fans are. But to see first hand just how hostile and offensive Tiger fans can be really opened up my eyes.

The final video of our experiences on lsureveille.com is an accurate depiction of what we encountered, but it was only the tip of the iceberg. Here are a few things we couldn’t fit in the video.

Vulgar language has never really bothered me, and the incessant “Tiger-baiting” and
“Around the bowl and down the hole, Roll Tide, Roll” mocking were the least of my worries.

Almost every tailgate spot we visited greeted us with the same expressions. The women called us “bitches,” and the men called us “cunts” followed by the traditional “Rip. Rip. Rip. Rap. Rap. Rap. You ‘Bama girls got the clap, clap, clap!” cheer.

And if that wasn’t enough, the amount of times we were spit on also struck a nerve.
Spitting on someone is one of the most degrading things a human being can do to another.
Verbal abuse is powerful, but when things get physical, that’s a little more effective.

The most significant physical encounters were from male Tiger fans. And they all involved some kind of inappropriate gestures. We were groped and squeezed by just about every guy we interviewed.

Not only did things get physical for us personally, our camera equipment also has some bruises as well. I can’t even count the number of times a Tiger fan ran up to the camera and shouted expletives or just yelled at the lens.

We witnessed what other teams’ fans encounter every home game and just how animated Tiger fans are before a big game.

But maybe we need to tone it down — just a bit.

I'll add this.

When I've made trips to the schools in the SEC I've only had one bad experience.

One.

That was at South Carolina with a couple of grown men getting in my mothers face and yelling when we lost while fRan was the coach. While it did tick me off a bit, I laugh now thinking back about it...the main instigator was doing all the yelling, all the time wearing a pair of sunglasses with one of the eye pieces missing.

If someone got in my moms face and started yelling at her, I do believe that I would be looking for holes in the earth suitable to fit a few bodies in!!