🏈 Tua’s Limp After Half Time

[OldPlayer]

I don't think he played enough to cramp. He didn't even play a half.

There's a play minimum for cramps?

 

[#80]

I don't think he played enough to cramp. He didn't even play a half.

There's a play minimum for cramps?

When you see cramps they are usually later in the game not before halftime. Tua was sub'd for in the second quarter. I played baseball, basketball and both ways in football and never got cramps. But then everybody's body chemistry is different

 

[TUSKtimes]

When you see cramps they are usually later in the game not before halftime. Tua was sub'd for in the second quarter. I played baseball, basketball and both ways in football and never got cramps. But then everybody's body chemistry is different

I've heard of guys cramping up early because of stress. A lot of thick legged guys will tell you that it goes straight to their calves, quick.

 

['65 Cobra]

Could be a groan issue. He definitely took some hits running the ball.

That's where he worries me. He doesn't have the body/size to carry the ball like Jalen. He seems decent at sliding, though. The way he carries the ball worries me, too.

I dunno man... His legs are like freaking tree trunks. The rappers call that "Slim Thick" :rolf:

Yeah but I don't think they're referring to quarterbacks... lmao His lower body is thick but he's just not got that overall size that Jalen has.

You sure about that, Josh? Jalen is listed at 6-2 and 218. Tua is listed at 6-1 and 218.

 

[EasyTider]

Could be a groan issue. He definitely took some hits running the ball.

That's where he worries me. He doesn't have the body/size to carry the ball like Jalen. He seems decent at sliding, though. The way he carries the ball worries me, too.

I dunno man... His legs are like freaking tree trunks. The rappers call that "Slim Thick" :rolf:

Yeah but I don't think they're referring to quarterbacks... lmao His lower body is thick but he's just not got that overall size that Jalen has.

You sure about that, Josh? Jalen is listed at 6-2 and 218. Tua is listed at 6-1 and 218.

Key word is ‘listed’. Tua might be 5’11”, no more.

 

[Tidestalker]

Could be a groan issue. He definitely took some hits running the ball.

That's where he worries me. He doesn't have the body/size to carry the ball like Jalen. He seems decent at sliding, though. The way he carries the ball worries me, too.

I dunno man... His legs are like freaking tree trunks. The rappers call that "Slim Thick" :rolf:

Yeah but I don't think they're referring to quarterbacks... lmao His lower body is thick but he's just not got that overall size that Jalen has.

You sure about that, Josh? Jalen is listed at 6-2 and 218. Tua is listed at 6-1 and 218.

Key word is ‘listed’. Tua might be 5’11”, no more.

So why would be shorter and the same weight make him more injury prone? Seems like the opposite would be true...

 

[EasyTider]

Could be a groan issue. He definitely took some hits running the ball.

That's where he worries me. He doesn't have the body/size to carry the ball like Jalen. He seems decent at sliding, though. The way he carries the ball worries me, too.

I dunno man... His legs are like freaking tree trunks. The rappers call that "Slim Thick" :rolf:

Yeah but I don't think they're referring to quarterbacks... lmao His lower body is thick but he's just not got that overall size that Jalen has.

You sure about that, Josh? Jalen is listed at 6-2 and 218. Tua is listed at 6-1 and 218.

Key word is ‘listed’. Tua might be 5’11”, no more.

So why would be shorter and the same weight make him more injury prone? Seems like the opposite would be true...

I wasn’t opining on injury topic, just that Tua isn’t 6’1”. He does seem to be built solidly and I wouldn’t know why he would be any more likely to be hurt than Jalen.

 

[bamachine]

Tua is at least 6'0", which is my height, as he walked past me last year and we were the exact same eye height. So either he is 6'0" or a little over, else I have a lot more head above my eyeline. /waterheadjokesincoming

He may not have played that long in the game but he kept going right back out there, without much of a break in between series. Damned Bama defense not giving him a break. /sarcasm

 

[It Takes Eleven]

I don't think he played enough to cramp. He didn't even play a half.

As a former collegiate athlete that's somewhat out of shape currently, I still sometimes catch a cramp after 5 minutes of crazy-positioned secks in my ice-cold 71 degree house, without breaking much of a sweat. AND I drink a gallon of water a day.

Tua, being the well-conditioned affuleet dat he is, had been participating in athletic movement (between warm-ups and live game action) for well over 1.5 hrs with minimal rest between series. In 90 degree heat, sweating profusely. So if he missed just a few ounces of hydration, he was gonna cramp.

Mack Wilson was also catching cramps in the 1st half.

Have you considered doing some warm-ups before your live game action?

 

[TerryP]

I wouldn’t know why he would be any more likely to be hurt than Jalen.

His playing style?

Consider this. Shaun Alexander and Emmitt Smith were both well known for how they took hits in the NFL. It seemed neither received a full blown hit when tackled--almost as if they slide off of the impact.

I don't want to use the term careless (unless we're talking about Tua and ball security) but their styles are different. Tua is reminiscent of "care free" style of play relying on his athleticism. Jalen tends to resemble those two I mentioned...he approaches contact differently.

 

[TUSKtimes]

His playing style?

Consider this. Shaun Alexander and Emmitt Smith were both well known for how they took hits in the NFL. It seemed neither received a full blown hit when tackled--almost as if they slide off of the impact.

I don't want to use the term careless (unless we're talking about Tua and ball security) but their styles are different. Tua is reminiscent of "care free" style of play relying on his athleticism. Jalen tends to resemble those two I mentioned...he approaches contact differently.

Franco Harris immediately came to mind as well and there have been other great backs who didn't let you hit them square on. I actually saw Tua slide when running downfield. It's the course of wisdom in the long run. As he gets comfortable and finds his style against every kind of defense, I believe he will be more inclined to take fewer chances and be more content to just line up and do it again. He's a playmaker at heart, no doubt, but he's also a smart, instinctive guy, he'll figure it out.

 

[Tidestalker]

I wouldn’t know why he would be any more likely to be hurt than Jalen.

His playing style?

Consider this. Shaun Alexander and Emmitt Smith were both well known for how they took hits in the NFL. It seemed neither received a full blown hit when tackled--almost as if they slide off of the impact.

I don't want to use the term careless (unless we're talking about Tua and ball security) but their styles are different. Tua is reminiscent of "care free" style of play relying on his athleticism. Jalen tends to resemble those two I mentioned...he approaches contact differently.

Eh, yes and no.

Tua more likely to take on contact the way he's finishing runs... Jalen mabe more "slippery" in how he finishes.

On the other hand through 3 games, Tua has 14 rushing attempts where Jalen had 36. I realize many of Jalens rushing attempts ended up out of bounds on the right sideline but still made it up field more than Tua.

In regards to stature I've always thought the more legs and arms you have the easier it is to get them injured. Regardless, Tua sliding is a beautiful thing. One thing to get injured in the pocket and another to hurt yourself running someone over up 25.

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

I don't think he played enough to cramp. He didn't even play a half.

As a former collegiate athlete that's somewhat out of shape currently, I still sometimes catch a cramp after 5 minutes of crazy-positioned secks in my ice-cold 71 degree house, without breaking much of a sweat. AND I drink a gallon of water a day.

Tua, being the well-conditioned affuleet dat he is, had been participating in athletic movement (between warm-ups and live game action) for well over 1.5 hrs with minimal rest between series. In 90 degree heat, sweating profusely. So if he missed just a few ounces of hydration, he was gonna cramp.

Mack Wilson was also catching cramps in the 1st half.

Have you considered doing some warm-ups before your live game action?

After this last cramp, yes. Lol.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

I don't think he played enough to cramp. He didn't even play a half.

As a former collegiate athlete that's somewhat out of shape currently, I still sometimes catch a cramp after 5 minutes of crazy-positioned secks in my ice-cold 71 degree house, without breaking much of a sweat. AND I drink a gallon of water a day.

Tua, being the well-conditioned affuleet dat he is, had been participating in athletic movement (between warm-ups and live game action) for well over 1.5 hrs with minimal rest between series. In 90 degree heat, sweating profusely. So if he missed just a few ounces of hydration, he was gonna cramp.

Mack Wilson was also catching cramps in the 1st half.

Have you considered doing some warm-ups before your live game action?

After this last cramp, yes. Lol.

Be careful, though - you wouldn't want to go limp after halftime...

 

[TerryP]

On the other hand through 3 games, Tua has 14 rushing attempts where Jalen had 36. I realize many of Jalens rushing attempts ended up out of bounds on the right sideline but still made it up field more than Tua.

I don't quite get what point you're trying to make here.

Yes, Tua has fewer carries than Jalen. And yes, Bama is running two different packages with each QB playing to each players strengths which would lead to Jalen running more often than Tua.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

I wouldn’t know why he would be any more likely to be hurt than Jalen.

His playing style?

Consider this. Shaun Alexander and Emmitt Smith were both well known for how they took hits in the NFL. It seemed neither received a full blown hit when tackled--almost as if they slide off of the impact.

I don't want to use the term careless (unless we're talking about Tua and ball security) but their styles are different. Tua is reminiscent of "care free" style of play relying on his athleticism. Jalen tends to resemble those two I mentioned...he approaches contact differently.

Eh, yes and no.

Tua more likely to take on contact the way he's finishing runs... Jalen mabe more "slippery" in how he finishes.

On the other hand through 3 games, Tua has 14 rushing attempts where Jalen had 36. I realize many of Jalens rushing attempts ended up out of bounds on the right sideline but still made it up field more than Tua.

In regards to stature I've always thought the more legs and arms you have the easier it is to get them injured. Regardless, Tua sliding is a beautiful thing. One thing to get injured in the pocket and another to hurt yourself running someone over up 25.

Regarding rushing attempts, I see Tua with 14 for 93 and Hurts with 12 for 61. Where do you see Hurts with 36 rushing attempts?

https://rolltide.com/cumestats.aspx?path=football&year=2018

 

[TerryP]

Where do you see Hurts with 36 rushing attempts?

Here. I didn't verify the numbers until you mentioned it this morning. What you're seeing on RT.com is the same as CFBStats.com

On the other hand through 3 games, Tua has 14 rushing attempts where Jalen had 36. I realize many of Jalens rushing attempts ended up out of bounds on the right sideline but still made it up field more than Tua.

 

[UAgrad93]

I would hope that Dan Enos is coaching Tua and the other QBs to slide!!! Coach Homer Smith used to make us "practice sliding" in one of his drills either on Monday or Tuesday. He said we were "living to play the next play!"

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

I don't think he played enough to cramp. He didn't even play a half.

As a former collegiate athlete that's somewhat out of shape currently, I still sometimes catch a cramp after 5 minutes of crazy-positioned secks in my ice-cold 71 degree house, without breaking much of a sweat. AND I drink a gallon of water a day.

Tua, being the well-conditioned affuleet dat he is, had been participating in athletic movement (between warm-ups and live game action) for well over 1.5 hrs with minimal rest between series. In 90 degree heat, sweating profusely. So if he missed just a few ounces of hydration, he was gonna cramp.

Mack Wilson was also catching cramps in the 1st half.

Have you considered doing some warm-ups before your live game action?

After this last cramp, yes. Lol.

Be careful, though - you wouldn't want to go limp after halftime...

Teehee.

 

[Tidestalker]

I wouldn’t know why he would be any more likely to be hurt than Jalen.

His playing style?

Consider this. Shaun Alexander and Emmitt Smith were both well known for how they took hits in the NFL. It seemed neither received a full blown hit when tackled--almost as if they slide off of the impact.

I don't want to use the term careless (unless we're talking about Tua and ball security) but their styles are different. Tua is reminiscent of "care free" style of play relying on his athleticism. Jalen tends to resemble those two I mentioned...he approaches contact differently.

Eh, yes and no.

Tua more likely to take on contact the way he's finishing runs... Jalen mabe more "slippery" in how he finishes.

On the other hand through 3 games, Tua has 14 rushing attempts where Jalen had 36. I realize many of Jalens rushing attempts ended up out of bounds on the right sideline but still made it up field more than Tua.

In regards to stature I've always thought the more legs and arms you have the easier it is to get them injured. Regardless, Tua sliding is a beautiful thing. One thing to get injured in the pocket and another to hurt yourself running someone over up 25.

Regarding rushing attempts, I see Tua with 14 for 93 and Hurts with 12 for 61. Where do you see Hurts with 36 rushing attempts?

2018 Football Cumulative Statistics - Alabama Athletics

May bad - Comparing Tua's first 3 games this year to Jalen's first 3 games last year.... As starters. Should have noted that.

Terry just pointing out the difference in "playing style". One runs, a lot. One throws, a lot.