💬 True or False? Holding is to football as traveling is to basketball.

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As the most "non-calls" in either sport?

The thing is ... I get it when it's not called in football especially when it has no bearing on the play. I DON'T get it when it's not called in basketball.

Heck, I'm not simply referring to a guy switching his pivot foot (though I know I saw that at least four times yesterday.) I'm talking blatant situations where they are taking a few steps, then setting up.
 
I just thought it was a rule chance! I mean I saw traveling in most of the games I have watch. Maybe these referees thinking it and NFL game,I saw where one of them was and NFL referees.
 
TerryP said:
As the most "non-calls" in either sport?

The thing is ... I get it when it's not called in football especially when it has no bearing on the play. I DON'T get it when it's not called in basketball.

Heck, I'm not simply referring to a guy switching his pivot foot (though I know I saw that at least four times yesterday.) I'm talking blatant situations where they are taking a few steps, then setting up.
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Sore subject for Alabama fans I suppose. The refs are often criticized for evening up ballgames with fathom whistles. The difference in holding calls against the defense who created the most defensive line pressure last season to the amount of "holding calls" thrown against said team's offensive line was mind boggling and for that to continue through the entire season was defying the laws of math, good sense, and fairness.


To be frank, the last thing I wanted to see last night in the late game was more traveling calls. In fact, if we're discussing penalty phase, dare I say, seemed "over-regulated." The refs managed to kill pace and take the best players off the court before the midway point of the first half. Not exactly what we're all anticipating in an epic rematch.

The moral of the story would be that refs really stink either way and with instant replay, we can prove it.
 
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The only thing I look for when I coached was being consistent. If a play is a violation in the first quarter, its a violation in the 4th quarter. Basketball has become a game where a player can be mugged and there is no foul on time down the court and the next time down the ref calls a touch foul. This, IMO, is what upsets players and coach's.
 
I would agree with the OP. I also agree with @alabama mike when it comes to consistency. When I coached, that was what I looked for...consistency. If it isn't a foul in the 1st half, then it shouldn't be one in the 2nd half and damn well shouldn't be one in the last minute of a tight game. I got T'd up on just such a call in the finals of a tournament game. It was on a reach in call. the call put the other team on the line for a 1 and 1. I simply stated that if "that wasn't a foul in the first 31 minutes and change of the game, then why is it now?" I got T'd up!! Kid sank the free throws on the T and then proceeded to hit 1 of 2 on the regular foul. We lost by 2.
 
uagrad93 said:
I would agree with the OP. I also agree with @alabama mike when it comes to consistency. When I coached, that was what I looked for...consistency. If it isn't a foul in the 1st half, then it shouldn't be one in the 2nd half and damn well shouldn't be one in the last minute of a tight game. I got T'd up on just such a call in the finals of a tournament game. It was on a reach in call. the call put the other team on the line for a 1 and 1. I simply stated that if "that wasn't a foul in the first 31 minutes and change of the game, then why is it now?" I got T'd up!! Kid sank the free throws on the T and then proceeded to hit 1 of 2 on the regular foul. We lost by 2.
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I guess next time you will keep your mouth shut!! ;)(I know, I know!!)
 
TUSKstuff said:
The refs are often criticized for evening up ballgames with fathom whistles.
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I don't know how fans could even fathom the idea they are blowing whistles to make the fouls even when we see such disparity in games. :naughtydevil:

planomateo said:
They are just getting them prepared to play in the NBA. Might as well just get rid of the rule if you're not gonna call it.
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It's one thing see a player take three steps while driving. It's quite the other seeing them switch pivot feet. Heck, I saw one this weekend where the player not only switched feet, but then proceeded to dribble out from underneath.
 
TUSKstuff said:
I guess you know this means war, verbally speaking? :tank:
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TerryP said:
As the most "non-calls" in either sport?

The thing is ... I get it when it's not called in football especially when it has no bearing on the play. I DON'T get it when it's not called in basketball.

Heck, I'm not simply referring to a guy switching his pivot foot (though I know I saw that at least four times yesterday.) I'm talking blatant situations where they are taking a few steps, then setting up.
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Hey Terry... Did you also just realize we can watch porn on phones and Donald Trump is President?! :bamadance:
 
rick4bama said:
I guess next time you will keep your mouth shut!! ;)(I know, I know!!)
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After he T'd me up, I then got on his ass!! I told him that it was his job to control the game and not be the center of attention of the game! He looked confused when I told him that he let them beat the piss out of each other for 31 minutes and then someone farts and you call a foul!! My Dad officiated basketball for 45 years and he often carried me with him to games up to the point I started playing in junior high. Needless to say, I had a better knowledge of the rulebooks than what these guys did!!

I once had an official T me up because his partner missed a blatant lane violation on the free throw shooter! It is one of those.."you had one job kind of deals!" You hand the ball to the shooter, count 10 seconds, then check to make sure the shooter doesn't enter the lane before the ball hits the rim. He got 2 out of 3 right!! The official that gave me a T told me to "sit down and shut up!" while I was in my coaching box and yelling. The guy was like 5'3" and 120 soaking wet, whereas I stand 6'2" 240. I replied with,"little man, there are only 2 people that tell me to sit down and shut up and you aren't my mom and you sure as hell aren't my dad!" He then responds that he was a " Gulf South Conference official." I replied with, "well, that tells me something about your GSC officiating. You suck there and here as a damn freshman HS official!!!" At halftime, I got to the other official and calmly asked for him to explain. He looked me dead in the eye and said, "Coach, I blew it! I'm sorry!" I patted him on the back and thanked him for his honesty. I then proceeded to go in and blister the ears of my team. We were playing like dogshit!! We came out the 2nd half and outscored the opponent 40-6 in 12 minutes after being tied at the break!! Sometimes, a technical foul does wonders!!
 

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