🏈 Tony Franklin threads (merged)

I was a little suprised when he mentioned he had yet to sit down with the rest of the staff and figured out what they were going to do. Need to have a game plan when you plan of ditching coaching staff. Hope ole wingnut can "wing it"..........lame pun...I know

It just makes me believe that this was a very spur the moment, heated decision. He could have been told, "it's either Franklin goes, or both of you go"...or there was an altercation between the two men. I mean, the offense was sputtering...and I personally never thought that type of spread would work in the SEC...but the guy's taking a power I/west coast offense and turning it into a spread offense...that's gonna take more than half a season...
 
I hope he is gone for one reason...and it's not because i like that he's struggling at Auburn. I hope he's gone because he needs to be at a place where they will actually give him time to do his job. When a team switches from a pro-style offense like Auburn has been using for years, it is GOING TO TAKE TIME to get everything going in the spread offense. It will probably be at least two years before everyone on the team is comfortable with it and performing at their best. And as we all know...PATIENCE is not a word that can ever be found in the dictionary of SEC football fans.
 
Here is something interesting....

He said he and his remaining offensive staff would discuss Wednesday night who would coach quarterbacks and call plays Saturday against Arkansas. Tuberville also said he remained committed to the spread offense.

Who will coach the QBS? So not a QB coach....not good.

Who will call plays? Not a OC......not good (predicatable conservative)

Committed to the spread...So someone not experinced with the spread is going to do a better job than a guy who has called it for 16 years?.....not good.

Auburn's season is looking....not good.
 
Argo said:
Looking at the presser, what kind of sense does it make? Tuberville states they have a good offense and they aren't going to go away from it, but they just fired the only coach on the staff that runs the spread?

That's Tubbs spin control 101. Tubby didn't blow it when he hired Franklin. The spread is what Tubby really hired and it's all Franklins fault that the system he created isn't working, therefore Tubby did nothing wrong by hiring Franklin. :wink:
 
Porter said:
Argo said:
Porter said:
BamaHeat said:
I have a gut feeling that Franklin is the type guy to do some talking later about what really happened regarding his firing and the gash.

auburn has a history of paying hush money, but I'm not sure he stuck around long enough to get it. Or, if he was interested in taking it. :lol:

I believe his hush money may have been substituted with a 3 inch laceration on the noggin.

They were out of hush money so they went for the amnesia angle.

LOL :lol:
 
Re: Classy journalism

porkchop said:
I don't care for Auburn or Franklin, but this just seems over the line IMHO. Go to Auburnsports.com and check out the video on their front page (you don't need a premium account for this) of Franklin cleaning out his office.

I will have to say that is one of the most classless thing I have ever seen in my entire life.
Hell, I don't care for Tony Franklin, but that was as low as you can get. And to snicker while asking him a question...wow Auburn, you really don't have a clue!
 
"Whats the best part of being at Auburn?" .....holly crap! That kid asked that? Tony showed a lot of profesionalism there. A smart ass like me would have paused, pondered and fought with myself over about a dozen combacks.

Amazing.

A comment like, "The best part is looking in my rearview mirror on the way out of this dump in 2 minutes!"
 
Re: Classy journalism

BamaDevO said:
porkchop said:
I don't care for Auburn or Franklin, but this just seems over the line IMHO. Go to Auburnsports.com and check out the video on their front page (you don't need a premium account for this) of Franklin cleaning out his office.

I will have to say that is one of the most classless thing I have ever seen in my entire life.
Hell, I don't care for Tony Franklin, but that was as low as you can get. And to snicker while asking him a question...wow Auburn, you really don't have a clue!

I agree...Talk about kicking a guy when hes down :roll: They need a quarterback...not some caped crusader Offensive Coordinator...Tubby got some rough times a comin....
 
Franklin should have removed the AU shirt layed it on the ground pee'd on it, and then drove off...

Maybe we could hire him to be a recruiter.. can't have too many of those :)
 
I really don't think that Tuberville really WANTED to fire Franklin this week. But I have heard from several sources that Tony Franklin said "they are firing me after the Arkansas game, whether we win or lose, so for this week, everything is gonna be done MY way!".

If that's true...then i can't blame Tommy for kicking him out...
 
Got this in an email. I've linked the Anniston Star story but you have to be a subscriber.

Joe Medley: Positive spin will be hard to apply here

10-09-2008

Auburn is a damaged college football program with a damaged head coach today.

If you believe Tommy Tuberville's explanation for firing of offensive coordinator Tony Franklin on Wednesday, then a recent vote of confidence rings like a presidential candidate saying the economy is strong.

If you believe Tuberville's take was damage control, then you know he's worried about recruiting taking a major hit.

Either way, Tuberville comes off as a head coach who made a major hiring mistake, and Auburn comes off like a program adrift amid what was supposed to be a championship season.

And this time, it's hard to see Tuberville spinning his way back to the esteem he held before the latest snag in his 10-year Auburn stay.

He sure tried Wednesday.

Amid rumors that Tuberville fired Franklin after a routine meeting went bad, the boss said he arrived at his decision Wednesday morning. He said it was all about production.

Auburn's offense hasn't produced in Franklin's first full season at the controls. Five touchdowns in four games explain a 2-2 SEC start.

But Auburn's lack of production on offense was as true well before Tuberville defended Franklin on Sunday.

"He's the offensive coordinator," Tuberville said. "And I think Tony's done a good job of adjusting. I don't know whether we've done a good job of adjusting to what we've gone to.

"… He probably takes more blame than he should."

Tuesday saw Franklin take on a more vigorous practice persona, stepping in where he once deferred to entrenched position coaches. He did it with Tuberville's blessing, or so the boss said Tuesday.

That doesn't add up to a coordinator sensing an imminent pink slip.

If Tuberville made his decision early Wednesday, then the normally smooth operator could have avoided a media circus. As it was, reporters with video cameras filmed Franklin loading his SUV with books and videos.
Franklin hugged a student assistant and told an employee, "They told me to get lost."

Franklin wore a blue and orange coach's polo shirt, indicating he showed up Wednesday expecting a full day's work.

It's not the scene anyone expected when Tuberville hired Franklin this past December.

The idea was to implement Franklin's spread offense, a major departure for Tuberville and Auburn. As much as anything, the move was to help Auburn recruit quarterbacks and wide receivers.

But as Auburn's offense struggled this season, Franklin said that he needed to go more on instinct. He talked about following his gut and calling more passes.
Franklin's statements betrayed slow buy-in from above and below him on staff.
Then the Tigers showed more old-Auburn touches, like the run-oriented "Ace" formation they used at Vanderbilt on Saturday.

Just guessing here, but I bet Tuberville ordered more old-Auburn touches for Saturday's game against Arkansas, and Franklin balked.

And that's how we ended up with Wednesday's raw scene.

Then Tuberville went in damage-control mode. He cited production and reaffirmed Auburn's commitment to the spread … after firing the coach who copyrighted a version of it.

Auburn has signed one class with Franklin and the spread in place, and the Tigers have 26 commitments … more than a full 2009 class. Scout.com ranks Auburn's developing class No. 4 in the country.

The class includes a quarterback, four running backs, three wide receivers, a tight end and four offensive linemen.

Tuberville might hire another spread master after this season, but Auburn and the spread look like a marriage annulled today.

Auburn looks like a program in chaos, and Tuberville just looks bad.

Since Auburn has little chance of justifying its place as the West Division favorite, it's hard to see Tuberville looking better any time soon.

http://www.annistonstar.com/www/as/columnists/jmedley_columns.htm
 
That picture of him carrying the books is just sad. I really feel sorry for the guy. He was doomed from day one. He could not bring along any staff that knew the offense. I have also heard that the AU staff never really bought into his system and helped him. I even heard on the radio this morning they would have cookouts and not invite him, just wrong.

I am so disappointed in this whole situation. I know it is AU and their chaos( fine by me)...but as a person I think they did the guy wrong.
 
I am so disappointed in this whole situation. I know it is AU and their chaos( fine by me)...but as a person I think they did the guy wrong.


I understand your point....but I think he had a 3 year contract at 300k a year....kind of hard to feel bad for a guy laughing all the way to the bank. He can always coach HS ball and make a decent living.
 
A quote pulled from the above Anniston Star article...
Auburn has signed one class with Franklin and the spread in place, and the Tigers have 26 commitments … more than a full 2009 class. Scout.com ranks Auburn's developing class No. 4 in the country.

I realize Auburn has already overcommitted and it can be unfair to compare the weight of 26 recruits to say the weight of only 14- or-15-or-16 recruits. But if Scout has indeed ranked that Auburn collection of misfits as the current #4 best potential incoming class, that alone should satisfy the question someone posed over who is the better service between Scout and Rivals.

Half their class - and maybe a higher percentage, is more suited for Troy or MTSU or Florida Atlantic than the SEC.
 
alagator said:
A quote pulled from the above Anniston Star article...
Auburn has signed one class with Franklin and the spread in place, and the Tigers have 26 commitments … more than a full 2009 class. Scout.com ranks Auburn's developing class No. 4 in the country.

I realize Auburn has already overcommitted and it can be unfair to compare the weight of 26 recruits to say the weight of only 14- or-15-or-16 recruits. But if Scout has indeed ranked that Auburn collection of misfits as the current #4 best potential incoming class, that alone should satisfy the question someone posed over who is the better service between Scout and Rivals.

Half their class - and maybe a higher percentage, is more suited for Troy or MTSU or Florida Atlantic than the SEC.

Alagator, Scout's ranking was not the traditional stars method but a new "post-Tubby coach'em up" ranking. :lol:

Because everyone knows that Tubby takes the 2 stars and coaches them up to be 4 star players. :roll:
 
rammerjammer said:
I am so disappointed in this whole situation. I know it is AU and their chaos( fine by me)...but as a person I think they did the guy wrong.


I understand your point....but I think he had a 3 year contract at 300k a year....kind of hard to feel bad for a guy laughing all the way to the bank. He can always coach HS ball and make a decent living.

I guess so...but I bet his pride is hurting!
 
rammerjammer said:
I am so disappointed in this whole situation. I know it is AU and their chaos( fine by me)...but as a person I think they did the guy wrong.


I understand your point....but I think he had a 3 year contract at 300k a year....kind of hard to feel bad for a guy laughing all the way to the bank. He can always coach HS ball and make a decent living.

rj, I posted a 2005 USA Today article earlier that featured Tony Franklin as a successful consultant to high school football teams. The piece stated that TF was earning around $170,000 a year introducing/teaching his offensive system to high school teams. I get the impression that Franklin, at the time, didn't want to coach at the high school level because of the extraneous stuff that comes with it: classroom teaching, administrators, and parents.

I feel sorry for Franklin because of the way that Auburn and local media handled his leaving with the tasteless videoing, but that's about the extent of it. TF won't be standing in a breadline or signing up for foodstamps anytime soon. He'll get by.
 
Gone like a freight-train, gone like yesterday
Gone like a soldier in the civil war, bang bang
Gone like a '59 Cadillac
Like all the good things that ain't never coming back
He's gone (gone) gone (gone) gone (gone) gone, he's gone
 
My Auburn husband brought up a good point. I don't really know the money amount, but he said they're still paying Borges and will now be paying Franklin as well. So next season they'll be paying 3 OC's...maybe one can get it right. Hope not! :)
 
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