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ElephantStomp

ElephantStomp

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A win is a win and at the end of the day we go into our bye week 8-0.

But, after watching the game again on tivo I think if people are being honest with themselves if our offense doesn't get better fast we're not only not going to win the SEC we won't beat LSWho.

Saban's comments tonight post game makes me think our offensive coordinator will be getting a talking to about the play calling. But, somebody needs to sit Greg down and chat with him. I watched him today and watching it a second time on tivo he is not adjusting to the speed of SEC defenses. For instance today on 4th down he made all of his reads in like 1.1 seconds and then dumps it off to the runningback for a two yard gain on 4th and 5. He had Julio open in the middle and Greg just plain got happy arm and made a pass that was plain stupid. On another pass he missed a open receiver on the sideline. On yet another he missed the TE wide open by throwing behind him three yards. I don't know what the answers are, but something has to happen during this off week or we lose to LSWho.

Just my thoughts.


Cory
 
PyroNismo2000 said:
We got to step it up! our Offense was sloppy! G-Mac needs to focus or let Star Jackson have some action! We are better than what was out there on that field! Ingram cant do it alone!
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I thought this debate was settled last week. His turn will come, just not now. Mac has never lost a game and if he is having trouble adjusting, then what will Star do?
 
PyroNismo2000 said:
We got to step it up! our Offense was sloppy! G-Mac needs to focus or let Star Jackson have some action! We are better than what was out there on that field! Ingram cant do it alone!
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I agree, if anyone, including McElroy, can't get it done put in the second stringer for a series....However, I think the bigger problem lies more on McElwain than anyone else. He is not getting this offense to gel together and play as a unit. His play calling looks like we randomly pull the plays out of a hat. We are not using Julio effectively.

If something doesn't change in our offense, our whole season is in serious trouble. Miss St., LSU, Florida all looked better than we did on offense. Saban hass got some big decisions to make.
 
My opinion: Greg is thinking too much. He's thinks he has to make perfect plays. In reality, all he has to do is go out there and make good decisions and the perfect plays will come....but instead, he's trying to force them......and you just can't do that.
 
I agree with a lot of what has been said here. I do take some comfort in the fact that the last 3 games that the offense looked poorly in, we were playing good defenses. Yes, Greg is having trouble with the speed off the better D's, but I am hoping he is learning something from each game. I have watched Tennessee play a few games this year and they have gotten better on offense while their D has been very strong all year. You have to feel good about the win even if it was ugly. But, think about how things would have been had just a few more balls been caught rather than dropped, not just in this game but the last 3. Those drops don't help Greg's confidence level any and kill momentum. I think the bye week is upon us at a great time and I am looking forward to the next few weeks.

P.S.
Thank God for Cody and the Bama D!!! :td:
 
Victory said:
I agree, if anyone, including McElroy, can't get it done put in the second stringer for a series....However, I think the bigger problem lies more on McElwain than anyone else. He is not getting this offense to gel together and play as a unit. His play calling looks like we randomly pull the plays out of a hat. We are not using Julio effectively.

If something doesn't change in our offense, our whole season is in serious trouble. Miss St., LSU, Florida all looked better than we did on offense. Saban hass got some big decisions to make.
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...yeah that's a great idea. Put our starting quarterback, who hasn't done anything to beat us but has had his confidence shaken a little, on the bench and bring in the unproven and untested redshirt freshman QB.

Seriously, what would we get out of that? Not only would we be telling McElroy that we have no confidence in him whatsoever, but we would be throwing Star to the wolves...something I highly doubt he's ready for.

As far as I see it...Saban and McElwain have earned the benefit of the doubt by being undefeated in the regular season since 2007.
 
Victory said:
I agree, if anyone, including McElroy, can't get it done put in the second stringer for a series....However, I think the bigger problem lies more on McElwain than anyone else. He is not getting this offense to gel together and play as a unit. His play calling looks like we randomly pull the plays out of a hat. We are not using Julio effectively.

If something doesn't change in our offense, our whole season is in serious trouble. Miss St., LSU, Florida all looked better than we did on offense. Saban hass got some big decisions to make.
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Gotta agree with ya on this one. Why the fades to Julio when all was needed was a couple of yards for a first down? Ingram on a run or two would have gotten the 6 instead of settling for 3. Oh well, 8-0.
 
I think GMAC played very well. As Saban says, 'focusing on the expectations and results...you will lose focus of performing'

He had very accurate passes. A few drops but played well. Theres no way to put that much of the game on the qb.

TN played an outstanding game. They had plenty of time to prepare and it showed.
 
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I'm thinking it's not all McElroy's fault. There's been several passes that should have been caught simply dropped. True, Greg hasn't seemed to see several good opportunities to drop one down the field to an open receiver a few times as well. Overall Greg isn't playing that bad, and it would seem insane to put Star in a game like yesterdays or even against a team like LSU or even Auburn for that matter. I see McElwain to blame on some very questionable play calls in the red zone. I mean if ramming it down their throats was working to get you to the red zone, why not stick with it? At least to pick up the 1st down!?! had the PI call went or way, or we scored on that drive I simply think the game wouldn't have turned out like it did. That said a win is a win!

One more thing, did UT ever prove to our coaching staff they could actually stop the wildcat??? Why did we completely abandon the wildcat??? It seemed to be working pretty well to just stop it all together...
 
Playcalling was a bit iffy, but like coach said at halftime, hindsight is always 20/20.

I chalk most of the passing game lack of consistancy up to execution. We have a QB who is being shown more pressure than the world ought to have to deal with, and he's responding predictably. His numbers have dropped off, but he's not getting us beat. Close, but not getting us beat. Against LSU, I would expect more downfield routes wit our wonderful receivers, to back those guys off the LOS.
 
topic starter is correct. if the offense plays the type of game that they have played the last three weeks against LSU, we will have our first L in 2 weeks and IMO it won't be a close game. LSU has waaay more talent than the last three teams we played that have given us a lot of trouble. our offense has forgotten what the endzone feels like and they're unlikely to rediscover that against this LSU team whose defense seems to be getting better as the season progresses.

Bama will have to pull some rabbits out of a hat to win in 2 weeks... or maybe just call plays that make sense with what your team does well instead of daydreaming when it's 2nd and 1 inside the 5. you could get a fresh set of downs (the equivalent of 5 shots at the endzone) and yet you call two left side passes to Julio who hasn't caught such a pass for a TD since i can't even recall. i'm not here to bash the coaches, but i'm truly baffled at the redzone play calling over the last few weeks. on the rare occasion that we get there we know we're good for 3 points, but FGs won't beat LSU or Fla.

i'm not a big proponent of benching Gmac either, but if the QB has the equivalent of writer's block i don't think it would hurt the team to put Star in for a series or two either even if the plays were designed QB runs or handoffs. maybe it would push Gmac to play with a little more fire and a little less fear. what do you think would be worse for Gmac in his mind??? losing a game because you're freezing in the pocket or not playing at all because your on the bench? i believe the latter may serve to motivate Gmac and end what has been occurring.
 
Benching GMac wouldn't do us any favors. Although I had opened my mouth once before about Star and GMac and I was dead wrong. We cannot bench GMac at this time because Star's first game would be against LSWho and that wouldn't work. Either way if our offense doesn't get it together LSWho will makes us look silly.

Cory
 

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