🌎 This is the longest video I've seen from the ______ storming the church yesterday.

 

[TerryP]

They didn’t violate the Civil Rights Act, but I’m sure this administration will try and find a way to charge them with it and every other law they can think of.

If the Constitution gives us the right and protections to assemble together and that freedom is violated it most certainly falls under a civil rights. It's most likely covered, explicitly, under Title VII. I'm not sure where you are getting the information it isn't a Civil Rights violation. The Free Excercise Clause covers individuals as well as organizations (in this case, the church.)

I think it was Jefferson who wrote about the free exercise of religion. That was violated by the people who stormed that worship service.

Now, citing the Klu Klux Klan Act (Don Lemon among others) seems like it may be broad. I don't know enough this morning about that Act to say one way or another.

The FACE Act is an entirely different matter: applicable in every sense of how it's written. This was violated as badly as their free exercise. It's a bump in the old argument here that the FACE Act is a good thing when it comes to a grandmother praying in front of a clinic. As we saw that resulted in jail time.

But everything in the last part of the summary is "tabled" for now? Ya know, the part about the First Admen. Right to Religous Freedom at a place of worship?

We've had a discussion similar to this. And, it's another case where someones right to peacefully assemble (labeled protests) ends when they impeded the rights of others.

Do you feel the same way about I e snatching folks there?

Our boy Tim Walz suggested that was going to happen. I haven't read any reports about it actually happening.

I can say this with little doubt. When people are storming churches? It ain't a good thing and they ain't good people.

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One of the most unironic things I saw yesterday was an interview where the person was asking "where were you guys the last four years if Biden was so bad. You weren't in the streets because it was so good."

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At the very least, I see no reason NOT to charge the organizer (her name escapes me, she has two she uses) with a federal crime.

 

[Krimson]

Do you feel the same way about I e snatching folks there?

Yes I do. Don't get me wrong, I'm for illegals being deported, but a place of worship is not the place for any of those activities.
I don't believe a church should harbor illegals, meaning letting them live there permanently as a place ICE can't come in, but during worship they should be welcome and it should be off limits for anyone not there for the purpose of worship.
We're a nation of immigrants but it should be done legally. We can't, definitely shouldn't, pick and choose what laws we enforce. If people want changes in immigration laws then make it through votes. Legally protest whatever you want to protest as well but what they're doing in Minnesota ain't legal protesting.

 

[footballer]

Buffer zones around abortion clinics? Should go for churches also.

 

[Krimson]

Buffer zones around abortion clinics? Should go for churches also.

Shame there's a need to tell people they shouldn't do that around a church.

 

[footballer]

Shame there's a need to tell people they shouldn't do that around a church.

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I agree 100%.

 

[Krimson]

Sure wish they would come into my church n disrupt services. Here in Tennessee it would be sooo funny. Not really for disrupting assholes though.
People here still are packing at church services

I get the sentiment but I believe the church goers there handled it well.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

I get the sentiment but I believe the church goers there handled it well.

They would here too
Very well

 

[TerryP]

I get the sentiment but I believe the church goers there handled it well.

I remember things for some of the strangest reasons. Here it's a Cinemax show, Bansee, and the guys name.

Do you know the name Jack Wilson? Does it sound like it could be fake? An alias.

He worked as a deputy for Hood County. The sheriff in Banshee, was under the stolen identity, "Sherriff Hood." He was at church (Jack) and one day ...

He was the off duty deputy that shot intruders in a church in Texas back in '19 ... two men, I think it was, who were killed before the intruder was shot. Texas had passed a long two years earlier about armed security in churches.

My whole point with that story is this ...

Ya think those people knew they had a Jack Wilson, or two, in the audience? (Probably more likely there is no law like that in MN.) There was definitely a display of both devotion and faith; I saw several turn and face them with raised hands in prayer.

** I can't say I would have reacted that way. A lot of different "influences" in that situation.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

I remember things for some of the strangest reasons. Here it's a Cinemax show, Bansee, and the guys name.

Do you know the name Jack Wilson? Does it sound like it could be fake? An alias.

He worked as a deputy for Hood County. The sheriff in Banshee, was under the stolen identity, "Sherriff Hood." He was at church (Jack) and one day ...

He was the off duty deputy that shot intruders in a church in Texas back in '19 ... two men, I think it was, who were killed before the intruder was shot. Texas had passed a long two years earlier about armed security in churches.

My whole point with that story is this ...

Ya think those people knew they had a Jack Wilson, or two, in the audience? (Probably more likely there is no law like that in MN.) There was definitely a display of both devotion and faith; I saw several turn and face them with raised hands in prayer.

** I can't say I would have reacted that way. A lot of different "influences" in that situation.

How one reacts....thinks they will react. ..... so different.....
Armed intruders in churches....armed intruders in schools...
.....Cowards...... ultimate...evil....cowards....
Shouldnt have to "pack" in church...
Shouldn't have to have "police officers" in schools...

 

[Krimson]

I remember things for some of the strangest reasons. Here it's a Cinemax show, Bansee, and the guys name.

Do you know the name Jack Wilson? Does it sound like it could be fake? An alias.

He worked as a deputy for Hood County. The sheriff in Banshee, was under the stolen identity, "Sherriff Hood." He was at church (Jack) and one day ...

He was the off duty deputy that shot intruders in a church in Texas back in '19 ... two men, I think it was, who were killed before the intruder was shot. Texas had passed a long two years earlier about armed security in churches.

My whole point with that story is this ...

Ya think those people knew they had a Jack Wilson, or two, in the audience? (Probably more likely there is no law like that in MN.) There was definitely a display of both devotion and faith; I saw several turn and face them with raised hands in prayer.

** I can't say I would have reacted that way. A lot of different "influences" in that situation.

My first thought was something like They better be glad they didn't do that in the south. After that initial emotional reaction I thought the congregation and pastor handled it perfectly.
Armed intruder is a bit different, I guess. Some may say having enough faith makes them the same while others may say I'm glad God reminded me to carry that day. Not sure what the "right" response is and hope I don't have to make a decision.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

My first thought was something like They better be glad they didn't do that in the south. After that initial emotional reaction I thought the congregation and pastor handled it perfectly.
Armed intruder is a bit different, I guess. Some may say having enough faith makes them the same while others may say I'm glad God reminded me to carry that day. Not sure what the "right" response is and hope I don't have to make a decision.

Exactly. Personally....I feel comfortable in the environment we have chosen to live in. I hate that people cant feel as comfortable every where in this country. But so much hate driven by the haters that just hate. Most only told they should hate. But really don't know why.

So many sheep lead by sheep herders that are bitter for no obvious reason except to just be bitter

 

[footballer]

Those worshipers gave a whole new meaning to " snake handlers."