Along the same subject ...
I saw a tweet the other today listing what NC State hasn't accomplished over the last couple of decades. It covered all the major sports and if I recall correctly the school hasn't even won a divisional title in quite some time. It caught my attention because we hear NC State mentioned often in regards to conference expansion. I had no idea they'd been that bad, that long. (non-competitive may be a better description, but not a better situation/state.)