📝 The Portal Watch 2020-2021: Florida's Emory Jones announces intent to enter the transfer portal

[BamaFan334]

I can see your complaint if it's that the kids shouldn't be entering the portal before the bowl game, or before the season ends. But a 4 year "contract" isn't applicable. The student athletes aren't beholden to that school for the length of their career as we would be in a mortgage. The actual financial agreement/paperwork is signed by the student athlete on a yearly basis.

And I agree with your general stance on how society is much more "flaky". In the same sense though - what is the answer? I believe in competition and free markets... Maybe you do too? So in that sense, it's up to business and the market to offer workers something to make them less flaky if they want to stay competitive... Complaining about it isn't the answer, finding ways to get the best people and competing is. Which is basically what's going on in CF, and why CNS has become so dominant... He's always evolving and extremely competitive.

I believe in a free market as well. Most of this has to do with the government sticking their nose in it all and fucking up everything they touch. A free market has zero interference. Unfortunately mom and pop shops and small businesses cannot compete against the likes of a Home Depot, Coca-Cola, Chick-Fil-A, Apple, Amazon, and other conglomerates. Without small business it gives all of the power to the monopolies of this country and makes the rich, richer, which I thought was what so many are fighting against today. Funny how they fight it how they see fit instead of taking truthful action in actually preserving their actual goal. As free people, we lose power when a handful of people hold it all.

As far as college football goes, you need more rules. They blew up the old way of doing it and allowed this new way of thinking and it's showing what a mess it can be. As with society, you have to have rules. Otherwise it's a disaster. Way more sheep than wolves out there, and sheep will stray if not corralled properly. These athletes are doing what everyone else is pressuring them to do and are being sold on ideas their brains cannot fathom. A guy like Bryce Young? Of course, he was raised about as perfect as one could be to handle these situations. For every one of him, there are 100,000 that will not get it right. Way too many short sighted folks chasing the dollar in front of them instead of the $5 ahead of them. Just like what teachers and coaches sign up for in the beginning, we need leaders to lead these members of our youth to success and to the road that will preserve our future as a human race. Letting agents, swindlers, and dime store used car salesmen to lead our youth is not the answer. For every guy like a Jaelen Phillips that transferred from UCLA to Miami and resurrected his career, how many failures have there been or guys that cannot find a new home?

 

[Tidestalker]

I believe in a free market as well. Most of this has to do with the government sticking their nose in it all and fucking up everything they touch. A free market has zero interference. Unfortunately mom and pop shops and small businesses cannot compete against the likes of a Home Depot, Coca-Cola, Chick-Fil-A, Apple, Amazon, and other conglomerates. Without small business it gives all of the power to the monopolies of this country and makes the rich, richer, which I thought was what so many are fighting against today. Funny how they fight it how they see fit instead of taking truthful action in actually preserving their actual goal. As free people, we lose power when a handful of people hold it all.

As far as college football goes, you need more rules. They blew up the old way of doing it and allowed this new way of thinking and it's showing what a mess it can be. As with society, you have to have rules. Otherwise it's a disaster. Way more sheep than wolves out there, and sheep will stray if not corralled properly. These athletes are doing what everyone else is pressuring them to do and are being sold on ideas their brains cannot fathom. A guy like Bryce Young? Of course, he was raised about as perfect as one could be to handle these situations. For every one of him, there are 100,000 that will not get it right. Way too many short sighted folks chasing the dollar in front of them instead of the $5 ahead of them. Just like what teachers and coaches sign up for in the beginning, we need leaders to lead these members of our youth to success and to the road that will preserve our future as a human race. Letting agents, swindlers, and dime store used car salesmen to lead our youth is not the answer. For every guy like a Jaelen Phillips that transferred from UCLA to Miami and resurrected his career, how many failures have there been or guys that cannot find a new home?

Really good post! I agree whole heartedly with the first paragraph. I guess the point I attempted to make was that the closer we get to "free markets" the better... To believe our current environment is a free market is a farce.... It's chrony-capitalism (by both parties... But that's for another thread )

I'm in agreement with most of your second paragraph as well. But chasing the "dream" over a "successful reality" is just where we're headed as a society. Each individual situation is different though... And for me to question whether or not they have the ability to make the best decision for themselves and what THEY WANT, isn't always in bounds. My position is more in the ball park of having the most options possible, with the most amount of competition, to pick the best pathway for themselves... As long as it's legal and reasonable... Whatever that's worth lol.

Deep down I still believe in great amount of coaches, parents, mentors out there trying to do what's best for the players. I'm a general believer in "sticking it out" over the "portal route", because I think there is power in finding ways to make something work and/or pushing through adversity... But that also doesn't mean it's best for everyone. And many will learn that the hard way... But those lessons are valuable too!

 

[BamaFan334]

Really good post! I agree whole heartedly with the first paragraph. I guess the point I attempted to make was that the closer we get to "free markets" the better... To believe our current environment is a free market is a farce.... It's chrony-capitalism (by both parties... But that's for another thread )

I'm in agreement with most of your second paragraph as well. But chasing the "dream" over a "successful reality" is just where we're headed as a society. Each individual situation is different though... And for me to question whether or not they have the ability to make the best decision for themselves and what THEY WANT, isn't always in bounds. My position is more in the ball park of having the most options possible, with the most amount of competition, to pick the best pathway for themselves... As long as it's legal and reasonable... Whatever that's worth lol.

Deep down I still believe in great amount of coaches, parents, mentors out there trying to do what's best for the players. I'm a general believer in "sticking it out" over the "portal route", because I think there is power in finding ways to make something work and/or pushing through adversity... But that also doesn't mean it's best for everyone. And many will learn that the hard way... But those lessons are valuable too!

I agree with you as well on everything you said there. I guess I just hate to see it hurts knowing so many are going to get reality checks sooner rather than later. Of course, society needs that as well in general these days.

 

[94 Grad]

I can see your complaint if it's that the kids shouldn't be entering the portal before the bowl game, or before the season ends. But a 4 year "contract" isn't applicable. The student athletes aren't beholden to that school for the length of their career as we would be in a mortgage. The actual financial agreement/paperwork is signed by the student athlete on a yearly basis.

And I agree with your general stance on how society is much more "flaky". In the same sense though - what is the answer? I believe in competition and free markets... Maybe you do too? So in that sense, it's up to business and the market to offer workers something to make them less flaky if they want to stay competitive... Complaining about it isn't the answer, finding ways to get the best people and competing is. Which is basically what's going on in CF, and why CNS has become so dominant... He's always evolving and extremely competitive.

This isn't exactly true anymore... they do have 4 year scholarship offers, which they didn't have in my day.

Players and coaches are all playing by the rules of the contracts they sign. Coaches have a "Buy out" clause that allows them to terminate their contract. Schools can also "Buy Out" a contract if they want to get rid of a coach. These are terms that are negotiated between the parties before a contract is signed.

Players used to sign a Binding NLI and the NCAA had rules to prevent kids from transferring. Now those rules have changed... and honestly for the better. If a kid wants to transfer, he has options. It may be that kids are making "Poor" choices, but at least they now have that choice. If a school is worried about kids transferring, they should look to recruit players of different character... just saying.

I don't agree with what some of these kids decide, but it is what it is and it's a heck of a lot better than it used to be for them. There may be some tweaks that need to be done to make the transfers a bit more even and fair, but they are moving in the correct direction.

As a note, I think they need to reconsider the scholarship numbers too... I don't think the current 25/85 limits work with the ability to transfer. They should be increased and allow kids to transfer if they don't like where they end up. I think a 30/100 would be a good place to land... but I have no say

 

[Tidestalker]

This isn't exactly true anymore... they do have 4 year scholarship offers, which they didn't have in my day.

Players and coaches are all playing by the rules of the contracts they sign. Coaches have a "Buy out" clause that allows them to terminate their contract. Schools can also "Buy Out" a contract if they want to get rid of a coach. These are terms that are negotiated between the parties before a contract is signed.

Players used to sign a Binding NLI and the NCAA had rules to prevent kids from transferring. Now those rules have changed... and honestly for the better. If a kid wants to transfer, he has options. It may be that kids are making "Poor" choices, but at least they now have that choice. If a school is worried about kids transferring, they should look to recruit players of different character... just saying.

I don't agree with what some of these kids decide, but it is what it is and it's a heck of a lot better than it used to be for them. There may be some tweaks that need to be done to make the transfers a bit more even and fair, but they are moving in the correct direction.

As a note, I think they need to reconsider the scholarship numbers too... I don't think the current 25/85 limits work with the ability to transfer. They should be increased and allow kids to transfer if they don't like where they end up. I think a 30/100 would be a good place to land... but I have no say

On the school's end, they can choose to enter into a 4 year off/agreement. My point is the financial end is allotted on yearly terms - Meaning School A isn't giving the Student Athlete the $ for all 4 years when they arrive as a freshman. Each year that $ is granted/resources applied after that player has filled out their agreement for the following school year.

Great response! Agree with most of it... Although 100 scholarships is a whole lot for the Non P5's - But obviously we are headed into the haves and have nots anyways... So maybe that's a good idea for the P5's!

 

[94 Grad]

On the school's end, they can choose to enter into a 4 year off/agreement. My point is the financial end is allotted on yearly terms - Meaning School A isn't giving the Student Athlete the $ for all 4 years when they arrive as a freshman. Each year that $ is granted/resources applied after that player has filled out their agreement for the following school year.

Great response! Agree with most of it... Although 100 scholarships is a whole lot for the Non P5's - But obviously we are headed into the haves and have nots anyways... So maybe that's a good idea for the P5's!

They do offer 4 year term scholarships now... it used to be only 1 year renewable, which is what you are describing (or maybe I'm just not understanding what you are saying). It may be that the money isn't sitting in their bank account, but it is NOT a 1 year renewable scholarship where it can be taken away and the end of the year (unless by breach of contract, ie the player doesn't show do what he/she is supposed to do).

Are Athletic Scholarships Guaranteed For 4 Years?

Receiving an athletic scholarship is not as common as families think. Offers are often confused with an actual scholarship, and they are two different things.

www.sportsengine.com

 

[Crimson&WhiteGecko]

The NFL just needs to open up access to 18 year old players. Let them handle the issues of paying players crazy sums.

 

[TerryP]

As a note, I think they need to reconsider the scholarship numbers too... I don't think the current 25/85 limits work with the ability to transfer.

Schools can add as many as seven to replace transfers.

 

[TerryP]

 

[Tidestalker]

They do offer 4 year term scholarships now... it used to be only 1 year renewable, which is what you are describing (or maybe I'm just not understanding what you are saying). It may be that the money isn't sitting in their bank account, but it is NOT a 1 year renewable scholarship where it can be taken away and the end of the year (unless by breach of contract, ie the player doesn't show do what he/she is supposed to do).

Are Athletic Scholarships Guaranteed For 4 Years?

Receiving an athletic scholarship is not as common as families think. Offers are often confused with an actual scholarship, and they are two different things.

www.sportsengine.com

Yep, agreed!

My point was that on the student-athlete's end, they aren't financially beholden to that agreement for 4 years... As aid is dispersed on a year to year basis. (Originally we were comparing it to a mortgage)

 

[Justneedme81]

Interesting move. He just pretty much swapped TAMU for Auburn with same situation. He'll be the same QB he was at TAMU.

 

[bama alum]

Damn...What a sad picture.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

Damn...What a sad picture.

It looks like a fourth-rate band's independent album cover.

 

[SoCalPatrick]

It looks like a fourth-rate band's independent album cover.

If I didn't blow the picture up I wouldn't have known those were Eagles flying. Hand to God my first thought was "Dragons? Is this a GOT thing?"

 

[planomateo]

He clearly has a thing for domestic farm animals

 

[rocknthefreeworld]

Auburn grasping at straws. He's already used his improbable game to beat Bama so they better hope he has something else.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

He was a backup at AnM....clearly a 8-4 QB....
Maybe what AUs goal is...get to the Tony Tiger Bowl at 8-4....

See the value of beating Bama!!!!!!!!!!!! One game...

I figured him to head to C-USA or Sun Belt team

 

[PurlJam]

Damn...What a sad picture.

I thought it was a Walking Dead ad.

 

[94 Grad]

Schools can add as many as seven to replace transfers.

Ok.

 

[Secondand26]

My daughter read a tweet that said (Don't want to take credit for someone else's funny) "Zach Calzada is Spanish for "Bo Nix""