🏈 The continuing rumors of Saban and Texas

[riz]

Well then, at what point does Alabama stop and say, "We love you Coach Saban, but we aren't going to pay that much."
???

I think that is the big elephant-in-the-room type of question that many, especially Texas fans, want to know.

Don't know, and frankly don't care. But I'd hope it's way short of $12 million. Y'all are the desperate ones, not us.

 

[bamaraider]

what he said...

Why do I have a feeling that you're coming in here to troll?

 

[bamaraider]

I know subjects like this are what keep sports talk radio and sports forums up and running but in the words of Chris Carter.....COME ON MAN!!

Anyone can sway an arguement to their side on most any subject so why exactly are we 6 pages into this??

Because some Texas fan decided that what he says is true and for some odd reason came on here to convince us that he is right. No matter what factual evidence may stand in his way, he is right.

 

[bamaraider]

Maybe so. I think a case can be made either way, Texas or Alabama, as to where Saban can go finish his career and winning championships at either place is going to give him a solid argument on having the title as best ever. But why not Austin?

Austin vs. Tuscaloosa. Debatable which is better. My vote is Austin by a country mile.

Money - Texas money vs Alabama money. I keep hearing that Alabama will match anything that Texas throws at Saban. What I have never heard is if they will exceed what Texas offers. I don't think they can. Texas has so much oil money that their big boosters will substantially up the salary offer to Saban, or anyone they want, just to win an auction at any cost. It's petty yes, but never underestimate the arrogant egos of some of our oldest, wealthiest oilmen. I admit, it's sickening. If Texas wants to buy the Taj Mahal for Saban, then it will.

rumors abound on the radio. Alabama contract extension and raised offer of $7 million per yr. Texas offer at $12 mill per yr.
To those that prefer the country lifestyle over city-slicking, is Tuscaloosa $5 million dollars better than Austin? If that is the difference, I don't think it is.

Do you even know Tuscaloosa?

 

[TheChief]

I'm still trying to figure out why his avatar is a uterus and fallopian tubes. Wait, never mind. I know now.

 

[ROLL_TiZiDe]

Why do I have a feeling that you're coming in here to troll?

not at all sir...just trying to get rid of the one who started the thread is all....but folks keep feeding him. :icon_sad:

 

[TerryP]

Well then, at what point does Alabama stop and say, "We love you Coach Saban, but we aren't going to pay that much."
???

I think that is the big elephant-in-the-room type of question that many, especially Texas fans, want to know.

That's what I consider to be a legitimate question.

Based on what I know he's going to get paid fair market value. That begs the question "what is fair market value?" Here we are looking at Kevin Sumlin getting paid five million per with nothing of substantial value to point to as the reason he demands/needs such compensation.

What does Saban's resume demand?

 

[Old Timer from TX]

That's what I consider to be a legitimate question.

Based on what I know he's going to get paid fair market value. That begs the question "what is fair market value?" Here we are looking at Kevin Sumlin getting paid five million per with nothing of substantial value to point to as the reason he demands/needs such compensation.

What does Saban's resume demand?

Clearly, Saban is one of the best, if not THE best, coach in college football. Would it not be reasonable to assume that the best coach deserves the highest salary? And would it not be reasonable to assume that the program with the most money (Texas) has the best chance of paying that coach the highest salary?

If you answered yes to these two questions, then you would have to also assume that if Texas does want Saban... and I think it's obvious that Texas does... that there is probably a very high chance that Saban leaves for Texas. Its sad, but true. This is just human nature. It happens in every line of business.

Saban's resume deserves the highest bidder. So, the amount would be determined by a bidding war. If EBay could referee the process between Texas and Alabama, then I think we all know who would win that auction.

 

[TheChief]

Money is not the sole motivating factor for many moral and ethical people.
I suppose from your sick and twisted perspective, money would be the only thing to consider when choosing an employer. Go back to Loserville.

 

[TerryP]

Clearly, Saban is one of the best, if not THE best, coach in college football. Would it not be reasonable to assume that the best coach deserves the highest salary? And would it not be reasonable to assume that the program with the most money (Texas) has the best chance of paying that coach the highest salary?

If you answered yes to these two questions, then you would have to also assume that if Texas does want Saban... and I think it's obvious that Texas does... that there is probably a very high chance that Saban leaves for Texas. Its sad, but true. This is just human nature. It happens in every line of business.

Saban's resume deserves the highest bidder. So, the amount would be determined by a bidding war. If EBay could referee the process between Texas and Alabama, then I think we all know who would win that auction.

...that there is probably a very high chance that Saban leaves for Texas.

There's another assumption—where it's fueled from I've not a clue. From Orangebloods reports? If so, let's go with that, shall we?

Is that supposed to carry more weight than what's been told to members of the Athletic Department at Bama? Is that supposed to carry more weight than what other national reporters are saying...reporters who actually know Saban?

IF you feel like making a comparison to e-Bay when it comes to a coaching search is an accurate and appropriate way to put this conversation in context so be it. What you are missing, gravely, is what impression that gives Saban himself. More importantly, the impression your fan base, BOR, and beat writers have already made with his wife.

Let me throw you a question, not based on hypotheticals, but reality.

You've gone to length assuming Saban can have the same success in Austin as he has in Tuscaloosa. Yet, if he accepts the position, his credibility is not only shot to hell, it's gone through hell and rest on the steps of the mausoleum for Qin Shi Huang.

Do you honestly believe you'll have kids buying into his process when his credibility is damaged beyond repair? I'd dare say, no, I'd bet, it's Dennis Franchione part duex.

You know what I consider sad? The point a program like Texas has dwindled to the point of being a joke among college football fans. That joke isn't based on what could be, but what is.

And to think a dollar amount is going to tempt a coach to step into the cluster-**** this "coaching search" has become?

 

[TheChief]

There's another assumption—where it's fueled from I've not a clue. From Orangebloods reports? If so, let's go with that, shall we?

Is that supposed to carry more weight than what's been told to members of the Athletic Department at Bama? Is that supposed to carry more weight than what other national reporters are saying...reporters who actually know Saban?

IF you feel like making a comparison to e-Bay when it comes to a coaching search is an accurate and appropriate way to put this conversation in context so be it. What you are missing, gravely, is what impression that gives Saban himself. More importantly, the impression your fan base, BOR, and beat writers have already made with his wife.

Let me throw you a question, not based on hypotheticals, but reality.

You've gone to length assuming Saban can have the same success in Austin as he has in Tuscaloosa. Yet, if he accepts the position, his credibility is not only shot to hell, it's gone through hell and rest on the steps of the mausoleum for Qin Shi Huang.

Do you honestly believe you'll have kids buying into his process when his credibility is damaged beyond repair? I'd dare say, no, I'd bet, it's Dennis Franchione part duex.

You know what I consider sad? The point a program like Texas has dwindled to the point of being a joke among college football fans. That joke isn't based on what could be, but what is.

And to think a dollar amount is going to tempt a coach to step into the cluster-**** this "coaching search" has become?

Best analogy I've seen.

 

[mhardiman]

Everything is bigger in Texas; including A-holes. Do you really think Saban wants to go to Texas and compete for biggest A-hole? Saban wouldn't stand a chance.

 

[bama alum]

There's another assumption—where it's fueled from I've not a clue. From Orangebloods reports? If so, let's go with that, shall we?

Is that supposed to carry more weight than what's been told to members of the Athletic Department at Bama? Is that supposed to carry more weight than what other national reporters are saying...reporters who actually know Saban?

IF you feel like making a comparison to e-Bay when it comes to a coaching search is an accurate and appropriate way to put this conversation in context so be it. What you are missing, gravely, is what impression that gives Saban himself. More importantly, the impression your fan base, BOR, and beat writers have already made with his wife.

Let me throw you a question, not based on hypotheticals, but reality.

You've gone to length assuming Saban can have the same success in Austin as he has in Tuscaloosa. Yet, if he accepts the position, his credibility is not only shot to hell, it's gone through hell and rest on the steps of the mausoleum for Qin Shi Huang.

Do you honestly believe you'll have kids buying into his process when his credibility is damaged beyond repair? I'd dare say, no, I'd bet, it's Dennis Franchione part duex.

You know what I consider sad? The point a program like Texas has dwindled to the point of being a joke among college football fans. That joke isn't based on what could be, but what is.

And to think a dollar amount is going to tempt a coach to step into the cluster-**** this "coaching search" has become?

BOOM! This ^^

 

[bamaraider]

There's another assumption—where it's fueled from I've not a clue. From Orangebloods reports? If so, let's go with that, shall we?

Is that supposed to carry more weight than what's been told to members of the Athletic Department at Bama? Is that supposed to carry more weight than what other national reporters are saying...reporters who actually know Saban?

IF you feel like making a comparison to e-Bay when it comes to a coaching search is an accurate and appropriate way to put this conversation in context so be it. What you are missing, gravely, is what impression that gives Saban himself. More importantly, the impression your fan base, BOR, and beat writers have already made with his wife.

Let me throw you a question, not based on hypotheticals, but reality.

You've gone to length assuming Saban can have the same success in Austin as he has in Tuscaloosa. Yet, if he accepts the position, his credibility is not only shot to hell, it's gone through hell and rest on the steps of the mausoleum for Qin Shi Huang.

Do you honestly believe you'll have kids buying into his process when his credibility is damaged beyond repair? I'd dare say, no, I'd bet, it's Dennis Franchione part duex.

You know what I consider sad? The point a program like Texas has dwindled to the point of being a joke among college football fans. That joke isn't based on what could be, but what is.

And to think a dollar amount is going to tempt a coach to step into the cluster-**** this "coaching search" has become?

​"I got nothing"

 

[Old Timer from TX]

There's another assumption—where it's fueled from I've not a clue. From Orangebloods reports? If so, let's go with that, shall we?

Is that supposed to carry more weight than what's been told to members of the Athletic Department at Bama? Is that supposed to carry more weight than what other national reporters are saying...reporters who actually know Saban?

IF you feel like making a comparison to e-Bay when it comes to a coaching search is an accurate and appropriate way to put this conversation in context so be it. What you are missing, gravely, is what impression that gives Saban himself. More importantly, the impression your fan base, BOR, and beat writers have already made with his wife.

Let me throw you a question, not based on hypotheticals, but reality.

You've gone to length assuming Saban can have the same success in Austin as he has in Tuscaloosa. Yet, if he accepts the position, his credibility is not only shot to hell, it's gone through hell and rest on the steps of the mausoleum for Qin Shi Huang.

Do you honestly believe you'll have kids buying into his process when his credibility is damaged beyond repair? I'd dare say, no, I'd bet, it's Dennis Franchione part duex.

You know what I consider sad? The point a program like Texas has dwindled to the point of being a joke among college football fans. That joke isn't based on what could be, but what is.

And to think a dollar amount is going to tempt a coach to step into the cluster-**** this "coaching search" has become?

You make some very valid points, but I'd just like to mention that the overall concensus in Austin is that Saban is as sure of a thing (low-risk) as a program that wants to win can have. To further illustrate my point I would have to address your questions about recruiting, and our sometimes overzealous, and yes nosy big money donors.

You asked whether or not I think that HS recruits would buy into this "cluster-***" situation that is Texas. I do. I realize that Saban isn't going to come over here and magically wave a wand and that tomorrow would be heaven on earth. It's going to be a process, but I really don't think it's going to be a very long process like people think. The talent cupboard at Texas is far from bare. There are already 4 and 5 star studs already in the program underachieving because of poor player development. That changes the second Saban walks through those burnt orange doors.

Secondly, I don't think that any dollar amount is going to just buy any coach. I do, however, think that it is a HUGE determining factor. You ask if a dollar amount is going to tempt a coach into walking into the "cluster-***" situation at Texas? Oh come on. A "cluster-***"? It's not that bad. Yes, it's now big-time headlines sports news, and I will agree that the longer this goes on it doesn't shed a great light on the Texas Football Program. However, its really not that bad. I don't know what the situation looks like outside of Texas, but I don't think its got legs to be a distraction past maybe the next couple of days.

 

[bamafan4ever]

However, its really not that bad. I don't know what the situation looks like outside of Texas, but I don't think its got legs to be a distraction past maybe the next couple of days.

I bet it's not that bad in College Station, Waco and even Ft. Worth. They are all pointing and laughing at the fiasco that is UT and their athletic program (especially football) at the moment. So I guess in that regard it really is a localized and not a state-wide cluster ****.

 

[Old Timer from TX]

I bet it's not that bad in College Station, Waco and even Ft. Worth. They are all pointing and laughing at the fiasco that is UT and their athletic program (especially football) at the moment. So I guess in that regard it really is a localized and not a state-wide cluster ****.

Longhorn fans don't really identify well with the attitude and ideology that comes out of College Station. We don't acknowledge them. As for Waco (Baylor) and Ft. Worth (TCU), we kind of know their place in the hierarchy. That speaks nothing to their accomplishments as of late, especially Baylor.

However, I was only adding my opinion that I don't think our coaching situation is really so much of a "cluster****" as it is an unresolved issue. This is important news locally in Austin because this is the heart of Texas and the home of the Texas Longhorns. Its big news in Alabama, because the news story perception there is probably one of the big bad school trying to poach away another school's football coach. I think this gets resolved this weekend at the latest. Mack will resign. Fiasco over. Maybe over tonight. Hopefully, Mack will go quietly. As for Saban, it's anybody's guess. He's his own man, and he should be respected whatever decision he makes.

 

[bamaraider]

Longhorn fans don't really identify well with the attitude and ideology that comes out of College Station. We don't acknowledge them. As for Waco (Baylor) and Ft. Worth (TCU), we kind of know their place in the hierarchy. That speaks nothing to their accomplishments as of late, especially Baylor.

However, I was only adding my opinion that I don't think our coaching situation is really so much of a "cluster****" as it is an unresolved issue. This is important news locally in Austin because this is the heart of Texas and the home of the Texas Longhorns. Its big news in Alabama, because the news story perception there is probably one of the big bad school trying to poach away another school's football coach. I think this gets resolved this weekend at the latest. Mack will resign. Fiasco over. Maybe over tonight. Hopefully, Mack will go quietly. As for Saban, it's anybody's guess. He's his own man, and he should be respected whatever decision he makes.

Now, I respect you a helluva lot more than I did before.

 

[PhillyGirl]

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[ElephantStomp]

If after everything he's said to people in Tuscaloosa and his players he leaves for Texas then I hope we schedule Texas every year and beat the hell out of them and Saban. But, he isn't leaving, so no need to worry about that.

Saban has stated several times that his biggest regret is the way he handled the leaving Miami for Alabama deal, so please somebody tells me why in god's name he would turn around and do the same damn thing again??