🏈 Terry, how will the playoff work next season, or is it the next?

[Razorback Reverend]

I know that the Sugar got the "Champions Bowl" which picks from the big 12 and SEC ... Right? Who else is in, who is out of the scenerio thus far.

Does the Cotton have a chance at a NC... or play in bowl, or what... I know the Chick Fila is attempting to do something there as well. Have you heard anything new?

 

[BAMAFSTBACK]

2014

 

[JoshB]

It starts in 2014 but the National Championship will go to the highest bidder every year (like the Super Bowl)... there are 6 different sites that will go in rotation on the Playoffs. Sugar, Rose, and Orange Bowl are the ones that are locked in. I believe the Fiesta, Cotton, & Chick Fil A were the other three expected to get the other spots.

So lets say the Sugar Bowl wins the rights to the National Championship in 2014, and the rotation starts with the Orange Bowl and Rose Bowl as the Semifinals. The Fiest, Cotton, & Chick Fil A Bowls will host the other BCS Bowl games. Thats how I was under the impression it will go.

 

[TerryP]

It starts in 2014 but the National Championship will go to the highest bidder every year (like the Super Bowl)... there are 6 different sites that will go in rotation on the Playoffs. Sugar, Rose, and Orange Bowl are the ones that are locked in. I believe the Fiesta, Cotton, & Chick Fil A were the other three expected to get the other spots.

So lets say the Sugar Bowl wins the rights to the National Championship in 2014, and the rotation starts with the Orange Bowl and Rose Bowl as the Semifinals. The Fiest, Cotton, & Chick Fil A Bowls will host the other BCS Bowl games. Thats how I was under the impression it will go.

Close.

The final decisions aren't going to be made until April. The Chick-Fil-A and Cotton are still in the mix for one of the access bowls. The three locked in for contract bowls are Champions/Sugar, Orange, and Rose.

What we do know:

Rose gets B1G and PAC12
Sugar/Champions gets SEC and Big12
Orange gets ACC and Notre Dame/Big Ten/SEC.

Money figures are roughly 475MM for playoff, 220MM of the top for those three contract bowls with 80MM going to the Rose and Sugar/Champions and Orange getting 60MM.

Which cities get the access bowls isn't a given, though strong indications are it's going to be the Fiesta, Cotton, and Chick-Fil-A. It has been determined that those six bowls can host a NC game.

The committee is being headquartered in Dallas/Ft. Worth area and I suspect we'll see that come into play when selecting the NC site. IE: I'd be shocked if Dallas/Ft. Worth is chosen after the Fiesta or Chick-Fil-A.

There was a push by conferences not considered part of "the five" to have a seventh access bowl. Considering the payout (rumored to be around 25MM) and some other factors I don't see a seventh access bowl being added.

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Rev, the last time I looked at this was around the same time we talked on the phone about where teams looked to end up in bowl games. When was that, just after Thanksgiving I think? So, in the last month a few things might have changed and I've missed them.

FWIW, I heard last night that the Birmingham bowl had sold around 55K tickets for the Ole Miss game. It might resemble a home game in Oxford by the sound of things.

 

[Razorback Reverend]

so... i am thick headed, it starts in the 2014 football season, or bowl season? .... nevermind, some bowls are prior to the 1st of the year, so we have another of this bcs mess prior to the playoff.. ok, gotcha

I am considering on which tix to continue being a partner with. so, some of these bowls will lose appeal after time and value. I currently have Cotton, Chick Fila, Cap 1, Russell Athletics, Liberty, Orange....

 

[Razorback Reverend]

btw, thanks.. alll

 

[TerryP]

so... i am thick headed, it starts in the 2014 football season, or bowl season? .... nevermind, some bowls are prior to the 1st of the year, so we have another of this bcs mess prior to the playoff.. ok, gotcha

I am considering on which tix to continue being a partner with. so, some of these bowls will lose appeal after time and value. I currently have Cotton, Chick Fila, Cap 1, Russell Athletics, Liberty, Orange....

I wouldn't lose any of them.

The only one where you've got a good chance to have a few "also-ran" teams is the Russell Athletics Bowl which has agreements (as of now) with the ACC and Big East. (I say as of now because I maintain the Big East isn't going to exist as we know it for long, if at all.) I do see problems if you keep that agreement as well though.

Even though the game is in Florida, the chances of getting a decent ACC team are what? Right now that's set up with the #3 ACC team. Now, some years I can see that coming out OK. But, this year that gave you Va. Tech.

The thing is Rev that Russell contract/agreement is ACC vs Big East / Notre Dame. The later may come through on occasion.

We've talked about the Liberty and if they meet their goals of becoming a higher selection than the group they are included in now?

 

[Razorback Reverend]

Yeah Terry... ND was in the Russell last season and made some nice case off of that one, but the other three years have been mediocre to bad. I need to consider this one.

The Liberty, if they achieve their goals, I will keep.

 

[TerryP]

Yeah Terry... ND was in the Russell last season and made some nice case off of that one, but the other three years have been mediocre to bad. I need to consider this one.

The Liberty, if they achieve their goals, I will keep.

Did you ever find out if they are in a true rotation for selections in 2013/2014?

 

[Razorback Reverend]

Did you ever find out if they are in a true rotation for selections in 2013/2014?

uhhh not sure what you mean, however i do know that the liberty redoes contract negotiations in 14 i think...

 

[TerryP]

uhhh not sure what you mean, however i do know that the liberty redoes contract negotiations in 14 i think...

Out of Indy, Music City, and Liberty the priority of getting the best selection / team with best record.

I'd heard rumor about teams being given a preference based on order. Rumor.

 

[Razorback Reverend]

from the Lib bowl folks... Music city prior to liberty, liberty prior to Indy.

Where does Birmingham fit in all of this?

 

[psychojoe]

from the Lib bowl folks... Music city prior to liberty, liberty prior to Indy.

Where does Birmingham fit in all of this?

After those you mentioned.

 

[Razorback Reverend]

wow... so enought bowls targeted for the sec that as many as 12 teams of the 14 can go to a bowl. Ridiculous.. but whatever...

10 for liberty, 11 for Indy, 12 for birmingham then is guess....

either way, more money for the conference and that is definitely what it is about!

 

[TerryP]

1. Sugar/Champions
2. Cap One
3. Cotton
4. Outback
5. Chick-Fil-A
6. Gator
7. Music City
8. Liberty
9. Indy
10. Birmingham

I don't think I'm missing one. We can get 11 in with two teams in the playoffs.

Oh, wait.

We're linked in for the Orange under the Access Bowl arrangement in specific circumstances. So, I guess 12 is a possibility.

With this many teams in the top 10 this season we might have made that Orange bowl tie-in work. But, we wouldn't have had a team in Birmingham.

 

[BamaFan615]

So is the Sugar bowl fading away? Are they going to change the name to the Champions Bowl?

 

[Razorback Reverend]

1. Sugar/Champions
2. Cap One
3. Cotton
4. Outback
5. Chick-Fil-A
6. Gator
7. Music City
8. Liberty
9. Indy
10. Birmingham

I don't think I'm missing one. We can get 11 in with two teams in the playoffs.

Oh, wait.

We're linked in for the Orange under the Access Bowl arrangement in specific circumstances. So, I guess 12 is a possibility.

With this many teams in the top 10 this season we might have made that Orange bowl tie-in work. But, we wouldn't have had a team in Birmingham.

Birmingham chooses prior to Liberty Then.... Because Liberty and Indy did not have an sec team this season.

So...

Sugar/Champions
Cap 1
Cotton
Outback
Chick Fil-a
Gator
Music City
Birmingham
Liberty
Indy

I guess this would be the choices.... in order? Especially considering the info of no sec teams in the last two this season. 11 with 2 in the bcs...hmmm, i still think when compared the sugar/New Orleans doesnt compare with the cotton, of course neither does the Cap 1 bowl now. the facilities are not even close..

 

[TerryP]

Birmingham chooses prior to Liberty Then.... Because Liberty and Indy did not have an sec team this season.

So...

Sugar/Champions
Cap 1
Cotton
Outback
Chick Fil-a
Gator
Music City
Birmingham
Liberty
Indy

I guess this would be the choices.... in order? Especially considering the info of no sec teams in the last two this season. 11 with 2 in the bcs...hmmm, i still think when compared the sugar/New Orleans doesnt compare with the cotton, of course neither does the Cap 1 bowl now. the facilities are not even close..

That's the reason I was asking about the rotation on choices earlier in this thread. Music City was in and Birmingham got the choice. Next season, based on what you were told, Liberty will follow Music City. I'd suppose the year after it'll be re-arranged again for the playoff scenarios.

There's shuffling in the bottom tiers...just not sure how they were working it out.

2014 is going to bring some interesting changes. Where will the Cap One fit in if the Chick-Fil-A is one of the three access bowls?

 

[TerryP]

So is the Sugar bowl fading away? Are they going to change the name to the Champions Bowl?

It's hard to get a read on where they are going with this.

The contract is with the Sugar Bowl, but the two teams in the Sugar Bowl are from the Big 12 and the SEC. Technically, that's the Champions Bowl so it's one in the same. Now, if it's a playoff bowl then it's called the Sugar Bowl and if it's not then it's called the Champions? I don't know how they are going to work it out.

We'll know soon. April at the latest.

 

[planomateo]

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