🏈 Stupid Question - Pistol Formation

BamaFisher

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Sorry for the dumb question gang...but you guys have shown me several times that you are a wealth of knowledge and this new formation is confounding me.

1) What is it -- is it just that the QB isn't right under center, but not as far back as shotgun?

2) Is this some new fad (a la wildcat) -- I don't recollect hearing the term before this year...but it seems now ingrained with the sports talk folks?

3) What are the advantages/disadvantages of this formation?


Thanks in advance for your answers. ;)
 
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As far as it's origin, I dunno, it's new to me too. From what I understand, one of the benefits of the 'pistol' is that you can run a lot of different things out of it and keep the defense guessing.
 
I know Nevada specialized in it but I haven't seen it spread this much since I noticed it a couple of years ago. It's a pretty effective offense for extra pass protection and maintaining a hard nosed running game. It gives the RB the ability to still get a running start to hit the whole hard and at the same time gives the QB more room to work. Definitely a positive for a offensive line trying to gel and slowing down a speedy pass rush.
 
Sorry for the dumb question gang...but you guys have shown me several times that you are a wealth of knowledge and this new formation is confounding me.

1) What is it -- is it just that the QB isn't right under center, but not as far back as shotgun?

2) Is this some new fad (a la wildcat) -- I don't recollect hearing the term before this year...but it seems now ingrained with the sports talk folks?

3) What are the advantages/disadvantages of this formation?


Thanks in advance for your answers. ;)

(1) the Pistol is an abbreviated shot gun formation, meaning that it allows the benefits of pass protection and a deeper starting point on the drop, without sacrificing the ability to run.

(1 B) The ability to run is due largely to the fact that while in the pistol, the RB is lined up approximately where he would have been in a true I formation. In the pistol, the Rb can still get the handoff/pitch with enough room to maneuver and find a hole.

(2) Fad? Maybe a bit. I saw numerous teams running it this week, including us. Having said that, I like the formation and always have. The formation provides diversity, and allows for some things that the shotgun and the I in themselves don't.

So I guess with the new found popularity in the formation, you could say it's a fad, but IMHO it depends on the team and what they intend to do with it. Yeah, running the wild cat for the sake of running a wild cat formation is taking part in a fad. Everyone else is doing it, so we have to get in on it too, right? Running the wild cat because you have studied it and understand how it translates to your personnel and success doesn't make it a fad IMHO.

Having said that,....Nevada has run the pistol for a number of years now. It's not all that new to football. I know this is apples and oranges, but I have run the pistol while coaching flag football for youth in each of the past 2 years. My teams in that time have been successful and the offense is ideal for us to make plays, because not only does the QB have an advantage on the drop, but we can run out of it, and play action is at a premium when you have a bit of a spread philosophy and you tend to bring receivers in motion towards the QB.

(3)Advantages/Disadvantages?

See above.

I think the advantages far outweigh the negatives.
 
(1) the Pistol is an abbreviated shot gun formation, meaning that it allows the benefits of pass protection and a deeper starting point on the drop, without sacrificing the ability to run.

(1 B) The ability to run is due largely to the fact that while in the pistol, the RB is lined up approximately where he would have been in a true I formation. In the pistol, the Rb can still get the handoff/pitch with enough room to maneuver and find a hole.

(2) Fad? Maybe a bit. I saw numerous teams running it this week, including us. Having said that, I like the formation and always have. The formation provides diversity, and allows for some things that the shotgun and the I in themselves don't.

So I guess with the new found popularity in the formation, you could say it's a fad, but IMHO it depends on the team and what they intend to do with it. Yeah, running the wild cat for the sake of running a wild cat formation is taking part in a fad. Everyone else is doing it, so we have to get in on it too, right? Running the wild cat because you have studied it and understand how it translates to your personnel and success doesn't make it a fad IMHO.

Having said that,....Nevada has run the pistol for a number of years now. It's not all that new to football. I know this is apples and oranges, but I have run the pistol while coaching flag football for youth in each of the past 2 years. My teams in that time have been successful and the offense is ideal for us to make plays, because not only does the QB have an advantage on the drop, but we can run out of it, and play action is at a premium when you have a bit of a spread philosophy and you tend to bring receivers in motion towards the QB.

(3)Advantages/Disadvantages?

See above.

I think the advantages far outweigh the negatives.

Nice explanation, chop!
 
First the pistol gives the qb a better look at the second level of defenders. The running back gets a running start just like in the eye. PA is much more deceiving in this formation as opposed to having the back to the side of the the qb.

So it gives the qb the feel of the shotgun (allows for more room between him and Oline, so more time to throw) so no 3-5 step drop from center. You achieve the drop back quicker in the pistol.
The running back gets the feel of the I with increased vision of the holes and the oline blocking. Much like the wildcat for them. Allows the back to get downhill instead of horizontal like in shotgun.
Draws are very effective in this formation along with all kinds of screens.
 
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Sorry for the dumb question gang...but you guys have shown me several times that you are a wealth of knowledge and this new formation is confounding me.

1) What is it -- is it just that the QB isn't right under center, but not as far back as shotgun?

2) Is this some new fad (a la wildcat) -- I don't recollect hearing the term before this year...but it seems now ingrained with the sports talk folks?

3) What are the advantages/disadvantages of this formation?


Thanks in advance for your answers. ;)


Ill take a stab.

The pistol formation from my understanding is a pretty new formation. I think Nevada or maybe one of the New Mexico team actaully started running it most of the time.

Ok, advantages.

1. Gives the QB the ability to see the whole field in passing situations.
2. Quicker hand offs, the running back can get the ball and make a move or counter move towards the point of attack.
3. Gives the ability to run end arounds, trap plays, speed options, etc.....
4. Eliminates the motion of the three step drop. Catch, look, fire.....instead of snap, step, look, fire.

Disadvantages

1. Finesee, not a power running game.
2. Long passes still require good pocket protection, timing.
3. Timing in general, elminating the 3 step drop could throw a QB's timing all off.
4. Chance of a fumbled snap.

Obviously, some of the opps and wins of the formation are closely related to shot gun.......because both formations are simliar.

Thats just a few things I can think of. Im sure there is an endless list of other things.


As for me, im not 100% sold on the idea. I think its ok to run the formation a couple of times a game, just to cause the other team to waste practice time on something you might not even run. But, overall....seems to me it can be kinda risky. In less you have the skill players to run it smooth. I like it about as much as the wildcat........not very much.
 
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