🌎 So. Epstein.

It’s already off to a bad start. What’s with this political theater: photos ops of handing preselected social media influencers (all of whom share the same loyalty to a particular foreign country) binders of information in controlled and rationed portions, as if it’s a Netflix series.

If anything previously unknown is revealed, I fear it will be misdirection: a focus on flight logs and celebrities who were entrapped rather than the power behind Maxwell and Epstein’s operation.
 
It’s already off to a bad start. What’s with this political theater: photos ops of handing preselected social media influencers (all of whom share the same loyalty to a particular foreign country) binders of information in controlled and rationed portions, as if it’s a Netflix series.
Do you realize how often you go back to Israel? Why not the FBI in our own back yard?
 
Do you realize how often you go back to Israel?
I believe you started this thread … about a Jewish fellow named Epstein with established connections to Mossad. I believe it was you who started the previous thread about the anticipation of releasing JFK documents. Anyone is welcome to refute the relevance of my posts.
Why not the FBI in our own back yard?
Why should we expect to affect our own government if it doesn’t represent us? If our government isn’t sovereign, then our attention should be focused on that to which our government answers.
 
I believe you started this thread … about a Jewish fellow named Epstein with established connections to Mossad. I believe it was you who started the previous thread about the anticipation of releasing JFK documents. Anyone is welcome to refute the relevance of my posts.

Why should we expect to affect our own government if it doesn’t represent us? If our government isn’t sovereign, then our attention should be focused on that to which our government answers.
Can you bold things you want me to pay attention to? In the future, ya know.
 
I believe you started this thread … about a Jewish fellow named Epstein with established connections to Mossad. I believe it was you whore started the previous thread about the anticipation of releasing JFK documents. Anyone is welcome to refute the relevance of my posts
This day, will be the first day, I've mentioned Mossad and Israel in the same breath: much less with this guy. I made mention of how often you refer to Israel. There's obsession here from my cursory point of view.
Why should we expect to affect our own government if it doesn’t represent us? If our government isn’t sovereign, then our attention should be focused on that to which our government answers.
Is this not what we've seen in both the Biden years and now into Trump's? The voting booth showed up in both, right?

Sort of ironic when I've always said focus on the individual versus the umbrella people put groups under. Same here.
 
One thing that's a drawback to the "information age" is knowing who some of these people are. COVID could be spelled clarity with a lot of folks.
Yeah, but I guess I’d be 2nd hand info. A friend of mine is a pilot for private charters and he has a crew (couple flight attendants, co-pilot and a few other people). They will no longer fly tom hanks. He would demand a newspaper, and would throw it on the ground when done reading it. Then bitch about it, and treat the flight attendants like dog shit. The last flight they never left the ground, my buddy kicked him off the plane. He’s a petulant piece of shit.
 
This day, will be the first day, I've mentioned Mossad and Israel in the same breath: much less with this guy.
I’m sorry to hear you’re either uninformed or disinterested about this topic. The fact is, we have lived in an empire for a long time. And in empires foreign lobbies pursue their self interest as much as domestic lobbies do, perhaps more so. Gradually our foreign lobbies grew from overseas operations by US companies to include artificial nation-states dependent upon our aid and protection just to remain intact. Over time foreign policy dominates domestic policy, eventually leaving less and less for domestic needs and infrastructure while apportioning greater revenue for securing and expanding the empire’s periphery, most recently illustrated in the push into Ukraine, Palestine, Syria, Lebanon, etc. The inertia of endless war crosses a threshold beyond which more wealth is expended than the wars themselves are able to steal from foreign lands. In all empires this leads to currency devaluation, declining living standards, and increased chaos at home as profiteering becomes less refined and more desperate, like rats sensing they’re on a sinking ship. See today’s press conference with Zelenski as an example! This is where we are in the arc of our civilization; we’re on the back end, circling the drain, and our allies (ie vassals) know it as they encircle D.C. like vultures hover over dying prey. This is why foreign dependencies are pillaging our treasury, through espionage, bribery and blackmail in the final days of the Pax Americana while the USD is still worth something. And US presidents and politicians are so desperate for a vision they invoke the glory of the past via “MAGA” while ironically sending US treasure overseas for personal kickbacks of all sorts, varieties … nationalities and ages.
I made mention of how often you refer to Israel.
My usual manner of interaction is as follows. If I agree or support what someone posts, I will normally only “like” the post. By default, this leaves most of what I do post as a challenge to the claims of others. In other cases, such as this, I will inject into a thread something which I feel has been neglected yet is relevant and deserving of attention. I realize many here have a preexisting theological bias towards this particular foreign government, and the sources of news most members consume here are probably of the tribe who were given Epstein binders by the administration.

There's obsession here from my cursory point of view.

There’s a myriad of ways I could respond to this. I could say:

“So what? Either reply in agreement, disagreement, or follow with further inquiry in curiosity. Or don’t reply at all. Calling someone obsessive simply redirects attention away from the topic of discussion.”

Or I could reply by saying I’m obsessed with my country, my country’s borders, my country’s families, my government, my government’s sovereignty, and my government’s ability to serve Americans, not foreigners. You find fidelity to one’s own country peculiar, do you?
The voting booth showed up in both, right?
A majority of voters never voted for their money to be sent overseas. It is lobbies, billionaire donors, and think tanks funded by contractors and foreign governments which induce politicians to intervene overseas. You don’t twice elect a president running on an “America First” slogan if voters really prefer for their money, sons and daughters to be sent overseas.
Sort of ironic when I've always said focus on the individual versus the umbrella people put groups under. Same here.
What relevance does this have to anything I’ve posted? I agree, as a long-time libertarian, it’s preferable to treat people as individuals rather than as part of a group. But since you needlessly bring this up, I’ll press you. What would you say if some individuals identify themselves as part of a group, call nonmembers derogatory names, believe nonmembers to be inferior, mistreat nonmembers, and believe they are entitled to privileges that nonmembers are denied? Should we continue to treat such people as individuals when they identify, behave, and coordinate as a group?
 
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Yeah, but I guess I’d be 2nd hand info. A friend of mine is a pilot for private charters and he has a crew (couple flight attendants, co-pilot and a few other people). They will no longer fly tom hanks. He would demand a newspaper, and would throw it on the ground when done reading it. Then bitch about it, and treat the flight attendants like dog shit. The last flight they never left the ground, my buddy kicked him off the plane. He’s a petulant piece of shit.
I had a business partner several years ago that was the pilot on Marine One. His is a crazy story. Just one example is he's in business with one of the largest marijuana growers. A guy that used to fly POTUS around ...

Big Brother, this guy was...had a tracking company on the base for years he lost when he had to go behind bars for a few years. I believe his lawyer got it down to vehicular manslaughter (versus running in the back of a car, killing someone, when you were drunk.)

Side story: The SC correctional system allows those guys to order what they want to eat on Friday's. One guy might want McDonalds, another something from Popeye's. It changes every Friday; different inmate. We smoked a hog for them one week. Sorta funny...he was still a "silent partner" in the bar: assets hidden, so to speak. In a manner of speaking, he paid himself to feed those guys off of SC dime.

I know where he is today...doesn't go much farther than that.
 
I had a business partner several years ago that was the pilot on Marine One. His is a crazy story. Just one example is he's in business with one of the largest marijuana growers. A guy that used to fly POTUS around ...

Big Brother, this guy was...had a tracking company on the base for years he lost when he had to go behind bars for a few years. I believe his lawyer got it down to vehicular manslaughter (versus running in the back of a car, killing someone, when you were drunk.)

Side story: The SC correctional system allows those guys to order what they want to eat on Friday's. One guy might want McDonalds, another something from Popeye's. It changes every Friday; different inmate. We smoked a hog for them one week. Sorta funny...he was still a "silent partner" in the bar: assets hidden, so to speak. In a manner of speaking, he paid himself to feed those guys off of SC dime.

I know where he is today...doesn't go much farther than that.
That’s pretty cool!!!!
 
That’s pretty cool!!!!
The best decision in my life may have been moving to this town. I've met so many, so different.
I’m sorry to hear you’re either uninformed or disinterested about this topic
You've noticed. I don't talk politics on the weekend.

It doesn't mean I don't smell bait. Ironic, in this thread.
 
You've noticed.
Ok then, so why call someone else who is interested and informed “obsessed”? I didn’t start the thread about Israel vs Iran. I didn’t start the thread about the JFK files. And I didn’t start this thread. Yet they all involve Israel and the Israeli lobby’s influence in this country. And so what if I did start those threads?? What’s your point? If it doesn’t interest you, then pass on it. However many experts throughout history have commented and written books about this disproportionate influence on international affairs. Welcome to reality.
 
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