🏈 Seriou Question: Will Bama make any coaching changes in 22?

[TerryP]

It happens every year. Will CNS fire anyone? I doubt it. Being a coach on CNS’s staff will boost your resume to the top of the pile. CNS may encourage a departure, but other than Kiffin, what coach under Saban has been fired?

Greg Brown and Craig Kuligowski. If "fired" is a subjective word they didn't have a job they were moving into.

 

[Krimson]

With OL issues play calling is much more difficult. My opinion but If the OL played the same way under Kiffin or Sark they would have been less effective as well.

I agree that the oline has made play calling more difficult but it doesn't seem like there's been any changes to the game plan since Texas a&m provided the blueprint. Why not use screens, slants, quick routes to get the ball out of BY hands quicker or 2 tight end sets to provide help. Something to prevent the d from just dismantling the oline. I would bet dollars to dimes that kiffin or sark would've had a new game plan.

 

[mando]

I agree that the oline has made play calling more difficult but it doesn't seem like there's been any changes to the game plan since Texas a&m provided the blueprint. Why not use screens, slants, quick routes to get the ball out of BY hands quicker or 2 tight end sets to provide help. Something to prevent the d from just dismantling the oline. I would bet dollars to dimes that kiffin or sark would've had a new game plan.

Just pointing out that O'Brien has had a more challenging environment.

Getting to some of your specifics, I have been saying we have to slow down the pass rush by getting the ball out quicker. I am pretty sure that is/was one of the adjustments they have made. You can still only do so much and eventually the secondary will also adjust.

The other thing has been a head scratcher is why we keep trying to run to the right side when clearly we have more success going left. Strategically I understand you can't just have every running play go left but if going to the right isn't working what choice do you have? I will say at critical times like 4th and 1 with your backup RB maybe you should run left. Sure their D will know it and they may have more people there than we can block but the results would not be any worse than what we have gotten at times.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

With all this talk about coaching changes. Something I pondered during the struggle of a game we played yesterday.

Who are our analysts this year? Not any notable coaches going through the "Saban" rehab program this past year. Made me wonder how much of an impact those guys have had in previous years. Former coordinators and HC's giving different view points and perspectives.

Posted this back on 10/10...

-Another thing that has hurt this year is the loss of some of the analysts. Those guys are heavily involved in scouting and game planning (obviously), and while they can be replaced, it’s difficult to always upgrade with such a shallow pool of candidates (can’t just throw money at them like an assistant). We’ve lost some really good ones in the last couple years.

As for the topic at hand... I would not be shocked if one or both coordinators are replaced. Certainly doesn't mean they will be, just wouldn't be shocked (as of today).

 

[Krimson]

Just pointing out that O'Brien has had a more challenging environment.

Getting to some of your specifics, I have been saying we have to slow down the pass rush by getting the ball out quicker. I am pretty sure that is/was one of the adjustments they have made. You can still only do so much and eventually the secondary will also adjust.

The other thing has been a head scratcher is why we keep trying to run to the right side when clearly we have more success going left. Strategically I understand you can't just have every running play go left but if going to the right isn't working what choice do you have? I will say at critical times like 4th and 1 with your backup RB maybe you should run left. Sure their D will know it and they may have more people there than we can block but the results would not be any worse than what we have gotten at times.

One of the things I've been wondering too, he seems bound and determined to run right and is almost always the same result.

 

[UAgrad93]

My guess at coaching changes would be OC and OL (those two are joined at the hip) and DC. Golding may be at the top of ULL list now that Napier has taken the UF job. Just my thoughts.

 

[TerryP]

The other thing has been a head scratcher is why we keep trying to run to the right side when clearly we have more success going left. Strategically I understand you can't just have every running play go left but if going to the right isn't working what choice do you have? I will say at critical times like 4th and 1 with your backup RB maybe you should run left. Sure their D will know it and they may have more people there than we can block but the results would not be any worse than what we have gotten at times.

This is another "narrative" I've seen bantered about for a few weeks and it's simply not true. I think some started mixing "blitz success against the right side" with running success and it's been repeated so much it's taken now as fact.

On called run plays to date: Out of the 369 called the difference in the number to the left versus the right is less than 10 (181 to 188.) The difference in total yards is less than 20. The season totals were compiled Monday though I've been watching this more closely post A&M.

 

[mando]

This is another "narrative" I've seen bantered about for a few weeks and it's simply not true. I think some started mixing "blitz success against the right side" with running success and it's been repeated so much it's taken now as fact.

On called run plays to date: Out of the 369 called the difference in the number to the left versus the right is less than 10 (181 to 188.) The difference in total yards is less than 20. The season totals were compiled Monday though I've been watching this more closely post A&M.

Hey I am the first to admit there are perceptions versus what the stats show and maybe in reality. Sounds like that is the case here based on your numbers but I am curious how this distribution looks throughout the season and in given game situations. Again my perception from watching the games not from some media/fan narrative is that we have been running to the right in crucial situations and did not have success. When we have needed that yard and went left we usually got it. I am sure a stat would say that perception is wrong but it stands out during the game when I am yelling at the screen after we did not get the yardage and had to punt.

 

[TerryP]

Hey I am the first to admit there are perceptions versus what the stats show and maybe in reality. Sounds like that is the case here based on your numbers but I am curious how this distribution looks throughout the season and in given game situations. Again my perception from watching the games not from some media/fan narrative is that we have been running to the right in crucial situations and did not have success. When we have needed that yard and went left we usually got it. I am sure a stat would say that perception is wrong but it stands out during the game when I am yelling at the screen after we did not get the yardage and had to punt.

I didn't compile the stats just watched as they were being updated so I can't speak to situational examples.

Third down conversions have been high this season so thankfully you've not had to stand up and yell at the screen too often. I know Auburn sticks out because it's the last memory, but let's put this season in context here. Starting in 2018 the team averaged converting third down's over 50% of the time. It was below 50% in '17 and '16, below 40% in '15 and '14...and so on. This season, to date, they're right under 53% on the season. That's good football. (I think they're .16 out of being ranked #1 in the nation.)

What's interesting to me is the most yards have come from hitting the A-gap running right between the center and right guard.

I saved the graphic on my tablet. I'll grab it later today.

 

[mando]

I didn't compile the stats just watched as they were being updated so I can't speak to situational examples.

Third down conversions have been high this season so thankfully you've not had to stand up and yell at the screen too often. I know Auburn sticks out because it's the last memory, but let's put this season in context here. Starting in 2018 the team averaged converting third down's over 50% of the time. It was below 50% in '17 and '16, below 40% in '15 and '14...and so on. This season, to date, they're right under 53% on the season. That's good football. (I think they're .16 out of being ranked #1 in the nation.)

What's interesting to me is the most yards have come from hitting the A-gap running right between the center and right guard.

I saved the graphic on my tablet. I'll grab it later today.

Honestly I had been high on the offense all year simply due to their results and a big part of that was 3rd downs. The Barner game was a disaster but the LSU game wasn't much better in the 2nd half. I had been writing off the LSU game as an anomaly but now with the Barn game it is concerning. In those two games I suspect our 3rd down percentages were down significantly. Of interest also would be if we are doing better on 3rd down when it is a little longer and we pass than if short yardage and we have to run. Again situational stuff that jumps out to me and in those situations I believe I have done some yelling at the screen .

So as to not just spew negative stuff, I have been saying that despite the offenses issues they have been productive and a huge part of that is BY. He has taken some lemons and definitely turned them into lemonade. He and Will Anderson are the reasons I believe Bama can and will win Saturday. Biggest concern is Robinson being out possible. On D I am cautiously upbeat but... Due to their inconsistencies (see Ark game) I have to put the but in.

 

[Crimson&WhiteGecko]

Honestly I had been high on the offense all year simply due to their results and a big part of that was 3rd downs. The Barner game was a disaster but the LSU game wasn't much better in the 2nd half. I had been writing off the LSU game as an anomaly but now with the Barn game it is concerning. In those two games I suspect our 3rd down percentages were down significantly. Of interest also would be if we are doing better on 3rd down when it is a little longer and we pass than if short yardage and we have to run. Again situational stuff that jumps out to me and in those situations I believe I have done some yelling at the screen .

So as to not just spew negative stuff, I have been saying that despite the offenses issues they have been productive and a huge part of that is BY. He has taken some lemons and definitely turned them into lemonade. He and Will Anderson are the reasons I believe Bama can and will win Saturday. Biggest concern is Robinson being out possible. On D I am cautiously upbeat but... Due to their inconsistencies (see Ark game) I have to put the but in.

Both of those games had adjustments with the Center & RT. The LSU game with Dalcourt hurt in the first drive bringing over Owens. Then Dalcourt removed (nagging injury from LSU or just sloppy play... unknown why) after the low snap & then later George replaced with Owens. We started to see production after the replacements.

Clearly, I'm not the coach, but this weeks practice has got to be about who is going to be the most effective against UGA & getting as many practice reps & 2 minute against the Defense 1s as possible to create as much continuity as possible. I think that if there is any chance that Dalcourt could get hurt during the game, he has to be the backup so that continuity can be simulated ALL this week. IF we can get an OL together that can do a B job or even a C job against that Jawja front 5, then things look MUCH better. Just my 2 cents worth...

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Both of those games had adjustments with the Center & RT. The LSU game with Dalcourt hurt in the first drive bringing over Owens. Then Dalcourt removed (nagging injury from LSU or just sloppy play... unknown why) after the low snap & then later George replaced with Owens. We started to see production after the replacements.

Clearly, I'm not the coach, but this weeks practice has got to be about who is going to be the most effective against UGA & getting as many practice reps & 2 minute against the Defense 1s as possible to create as much continuity as possible. I think that if there is any chance that Dalcourt could get hurt during the game, he has to be the backup so that continuity can be simulated ALL this week. IF we can get an OL together that can do a B job or even a C job against that Jawja front 5, then things look MUCH better. Just my 2 cents worth...

I would hope...they put the best group together all the time....
Hard to understand...why they would have to make such personnel adjustments mid game....the practice against one of best D ...personnel wise,...in the nation..

 

[JoshB]

Honestly I had been high on the offense all year simply due to their results and a big part of that was 3rd downs. The Barner game was a disaster but the LSU game wasn't much better in the 2nd half. I had been writing off the LSU game as an anomaly but now with the Barn game it is concerning. In those two games I suspect our 3rd down percentages were down significantly. Of interest also would be if we are doing better on 3rd down when it is a little longer and we pass than if short yardage and we have to run. Again situational stuff that jumps out to me and in those situations I believe I have done some yelling at the screen .

So as to not just spew negative stuff, I have been saying that despite the offenses issues they have been productive and a huge part of that is BY. He has taken some lemons and definitely turned them into lemonade. He and Will Anderson are the reasons I believe Bama can and will win Saturday. Biggest concern is Robinson being out possible. On D I am cautiously upbeat but... Due to their inconsistencies (see Ark game) I have to put the but in.

Auburn/LSU games:
Third Down: 12-of-35 (34%)
Fourth Down: 1-of-5 (20%)

 

[Tidestalker]

I remember Dalcourt getting hurt a few weeks ago - What's his outlook?

Good for McGloughlin to get some snaps in a huge moment, just not sure this is the best game to have a greenie in for... Especially at center.

Such a shame this whole thing just never got worked out productively. Always felt like Owens would be fine back at center, but that seems like the last option at this point. My guess is it's Dalcourt at OC and Owens at RT to start.... See how it goes from there!

 

[TerryP]

Always felt like Owens would be fine back at center, but that seems like the last option at this point.

Always remember the best five.

 

[mando]

IF we can get an OL together that can do a B job or even a C job against that Jawja front 5, then things look MUCH better. Just my 2 cents worth...

Doubt that is good enough but that fact that we would entertain that idea speaks highly of how good BY has been. Doubt any other QB could have had the production he has had with the OL issues Bama has had.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

FWIW, O'Brien to Duke may be worth keeping an eye on. I don't know which side initiated interest, but I was told it is there.

 

[ElephantStomp]

FWIW, O'Brien to Duke may be worth keeping an eye on. I don't know which side initiated interest, but I was told it is there.

If that happens who you want to replace him?

 

[rammerjammer]

FWIW, O'Brien to Duke may be worth keeping an eye on. I don't know which side initiated interest, but I was told it is there.

With so much smoke around O'Brien name coming up for HC positions, makes me think that Saban is not real happy with the offense he has seen. IIRC BoB has a 2 year contract. I think Saban likes to get 2 years out of his guys before they move on. Just seems to be a lot of chatter for someone that hasn't necessarily lit it up as an OC this year.

 

[BamaFan334]

With so much smoke around O'Brien name coming up for HC positions, makes me think that Saban is not real happy with the offense he has seen. IIRC BoB has a 2 year contract. I think Saban likes to get 2 years out of his guys before they move on. Just seems to be a lot of chatter for someone that hasn't necessarily lit it up as an OC this year.

This is what @TerryP has said as well and had me believing with the two year deal. Am I one of the few that hasn't thought he was that bad? I've disagreed with some calls, but as a whole we have performed pretty well. We averaging 40 points a game on offense aren't we?