🏈 SEC dont appear to be as good as we should be.

[BigAl]

Florida, Ole Miss, Arkansas and Georgia plus the cow college were all winners. The cow college looked like crap so did Arkansas and Ole Miss. Georgia wins and Florida wins in a blow out against a high school team. But they did win.

LSU, South Carolina, Kentucky and Tennersee all with losses. We are 5 wins and 4 losses now.

Alabama should beat Texas so that will make us 6 wins and 4 losses for the SEC this year. Just seems like a bad year for the SEC to me. Maybe I'm not giving enough credit to our opponents.

Do you agree?

 

[BAMAFSTBACK]

it's a bad year.

 

[BigAl]

Or maybe i should say the SEC dont appear to be as good as we use to be.

 

[BAMAFSTBACK]

The south carolina and LSU losses i did not see coming.

 

[PyroNismo2000]

Tenn & LSU...I hate to say i rooted against them....lol Penn St. is a hell of a team.

 

[BamaFan425]

The only really embarrassing one was South Carolina. The rest were good matchups that we fell short in. No biggy. SEC has nothing to prove IMO.

 

[bamabigdawg]

Florida, Ole Miss, Arkansas and Georgia plus the cow college were all winners. The cow college looked like crap so did Arkansas and Ole Miss. Georgia wins and Florida wins in a blow out against a high school team. But they did win.

LSU, South Carolina, Kentucky and Tennersee all with losses. We are 5 wins and 4 losses now.

Alabama should beat Texas so that will make us 6 wins and 4 losses for the SEC this year. Just seems like a bad year for the SEC to me. Maybe I'm not giving enough credit to our opponents.

Do you agree?

whats that??? wasnt it TCU and Cincy that all these experts said got the short end of the stick and should get a shot at the NC game? Only thing i didnt like about that game was during it and after every highlight had someone making a comment that at least Florida didnt lay a big ol egg like bama did last year against Utah. Brian Kelly or no Brian Kelly. Cincy got brought back to reality

 

[elbatider]

Ten SEC teams went bowling and when we win on January 7th, six SEC teams will have won. For most conferences six teams win or lose is a good representation for their conference. Again we have ten which when you throw in the fact that some of those teams representing our conference have losing records in conference games you have to expect some loses and not a 10-0 bowl run. 6-4 will be average, I was hoping for 7-3, 8-2. LSU and South Carolina were my let downs. Arkansas looked terrible even in the win.

 

[AFF]

SEC East is down

SECW will be 4-1
SECE is 2-3

 

[ElephantStomp]

Cincy is a good team. They just ran into a determined and confident team in Florida. I don't care what the record of the SEC is this year in bowl games, the only one I care about is the one on Jan 7th.

Cory

 

[BamaUte]

The only really embarrassing one was South Carolina. The rest were good matchups that we fell short in. No biggy. SEC has nothing to prove IMO.

Yep. The SEC is still the best conference in football, and a bad record in bowl games won't change that.

Cincy is a good team. They just ran into a determined and confident team in Florida. I don't care what the record of the SEC is this year in bowl games, the only one I care about is the one on Jan 7th.

Cory

Amen.

 

[CRYPTOCOSIS]

We should have won at least 2 more games down year when connt beat us it's a shame! LSU should have nuted up!

 

[Tider27]

South Carolina should be embarrassed. What ever happened to that offensive genious over there?

Other than that game I saw LSU, Kentucky and Tennessee being possible losses anyway.

 

[BigAl]

After watching Arkansas yesterday any idea that Mallett could go to the NFL is ridiculous.

 

[LBS]

I could not disagree more.

Using Bowls are a horrible guage for measuring conferences and teams.

Teams spend a 12-13 game season to establish who they are and where they rank, but then you will trump four months of games with one game played in the craziest of circumstances.

With Bowls you have a month + to all but change who you are and get healthy. Teams spend a week away from home dividing time between prcatice and visit to Disney World. Some teams play with entirely new coaching staffs. Heck, two left the country to play. Bowls are to teams what Spring Break is to students...and neither with give you a good idea of what the groups are like 51 weeks out of the year. (No Tennessee players arrested...do you see what I mean?)

Take Virginia Tech/Tennessee. What does that game say about how good Virginia Tech is compared to Alabama. ANSWER: Nothing, but the temptation is to think that VT would beat Bama...and yet that is not the case. How bad could Bama have beaten Tennessee if Bama has 4 weeks off before playing the Vols like the Hokeys had? These considerations are not factored into the casual conference vs. conference comparisons that happen this time of year.

Take Florida/Cincinnati. Do you suppose the Gators were plaing inspired, and do you suppose that might have been spawned by the revelation that CUM may be coaching his last game? Do you suppose the Bearcats were a bit shell-shocked and distracted by having their coach bolt on them, and this after being denied a shot at the title after the best season in the history of the school?

And don't get me started on the fairness of the match-ups. The SEC doesn't get the joy of 10 Bowls without being paired as the underdog here and there. What other conference is offering up its #10 team so that a #10 vs a #10 can be played? Heck, we play 3 Conference Champions.
Ark vs. ECU SEC #7 vs. C-USA #1.
UT vs. VT SEC #6 vs. ACC #3.
Kentucky vs. Clemson SEC #8 vs. ACC #2.
OleMiss vs. OK State SEC #5 vs. BIG12 #3.
S.Car. vs. UConn SEC #10 vs. Big East #5.
Auburn vs. Northwestern SEC #9 vs. Big 10 #5.
LSU vs. PSU SEC #3 vs. Big 10 #2.
FLA vs. Cin SEC #2 vs Big East #1.
BAMA vs. Texas SEC #1 vs BIG12 #1
UGA vs. TA&M SEC #4 vs. BIG12 #9

Apples-to-Apples. Conference standing-to-Conference standing, we are underdogs in 8 games, favorites in 1, and correctly paired in 1.

That's facing teams that averaged finished 2.3 ranking positions better in their conference that our teams did in the SEC. And we went 4 and 4 in the role of underdog. We won the game we were supposed to win, and are favored in the rightly paired match-up to come.

If Bama wins, the SEC would have gone 6-4 in games where we should have gone 2-8...if Bowls were a good measuring tool for comparing Conferences.

 

[Kozlowski]

Ive said all year the SEC was 2 teams and a pile of slop. Proving to be true

 

[bear facts]

I could not disagree more.

Using Bowls are a horrible guage for measuring conferences and teams.

Teams spend a 12-13 game season to establish who they are and where they rank, but then you will trump four months of games with one game played in the craziest of circumstances.

With Bowls you have a month + to all but change who you are and get healthy. Teams spend a week away from home dividing time between prcatice and visit to Disney World. Some teams play with entirely new coaching staffs. Heck, two left the country to play. Bowls are to teams what Spring Break is to students...and neither with give you a good idea of what the groups are like 51 weeks out of the year. (No Tennessee players arrested...do you see what I mean?)

Take Virginia Tech/Tennessee. What does that game say about how good Virginia Tech is compared to Alabama. ANSWER: Nothing, but the temptation is to think that VT would beat Bama...and yet that is not the case. How bad could Bama have beaten Tennessee if Bama has 4 weeks off before playing the Vols like the Hokeys had? These considerations are not factored into the casual conference vs. conference comparisons that happen this time of year.

Take Florida/Cincinnati. Do you suppose the Gators were plaing inspired, and do you suppose that might have been spawned by the revelation that CUM may be coaching his last game? Do you suppose the Bearcats were a bit shell-shocked and distracted by having their coach bolt on them, and this after being denied a shot at the title after the best season in the history of the school?

And don't get me started on the fairness of the match-ups. The SEC doesn't get the joy of 10 Bowls without being paired as the underdog here and there. What other conference is offering up its #10 team so that a #10 vs a #10 can be played? Heck, we play 3 Conference Champions.
Ark vs. ECU SEC #7 vs. C-USA #1.
UT vs. VT SEC #6 vs. ACC #3.
Kentucky vs. Clemson SEC #8 vs. ACC #2.
OleMiss vs. OK State SEC #5 vs. BIG12 #3.
S.Car. vs. UConn SEC #10 vs. Big East #5.
Auburn vs. Northwestern SEC #9 vs. Big 10 #5.
LSU vs. PSU SEC #3 vs. Big 10 #2.
FLA vs. Cin SEC #2 vs Big East #1.
BAMA vs. Texas SEC #1 vs BIG12 #1
UGA vs. TA&M SEC #4 vs. BIG12 #9

Apples-to-Apples. Conference standing-to-Conference standing, we are underdogs in 8 games, favorites in 1, and correctly paired in 1.

That's facing teams that averaged finished 2.3 ranking positions better in their conference that our teams did in the SEC. And we went 4 and 4 in the role of underdog. We won the game we were supposed to win, and are favored in the rightly paired match-up to come.

If Bama wins, the SEC would have gone 6-4 in games where we should have gone 2-8...if Bowls were a good measuring tool for comparing Conferences.

Great post, LBS. I wish you were able to send a copy of this to each "I-can't-analyze-for-myself-and-only-write-what-I-wish" media type.

After Ohio State's victory over Oregon, the "Big Ten Bandwagon" was again beginning to overload. Expect the media to really hype up the Buckeyes in the preseason publications. Terrell Pryor will quickly fill the void (more like a black hole) that a graduating Tebow creates.

Currently the Big 10 is 3-3 in bowls, but heaven forbid the accolades that are gonna to be tossed at that conference if Iowa beats Georgia Tech. :lance:

 

[BAMA74]

Cincy is a good team. They just ran into a determined and confident team in Florida. I don't care what the record of the SEC is this year in bowl games, the only one I care about is the one on Jan 7th.

Cory

i fully agree...who cares about SEC bowl wins/loses....i haven't watched a whole bowl game yet cause i'm just waiting on 1 game RTR:td::td:

 

[AFF]

I could not disagree more.

Using Bowls are a horrible guage for measuring conferences and teams.

Teams spend a 12-13 game season to establish who they are and where they rank, but then you will trump four months of games with one game played in the craziest of circumstances.

With Bowls you have a month + to all but change who you are and get healthy. Teams spend a week away from home dividing time between prcatice and visit to Disney World. Some teams play with entirely new coaching staffs. Heck, two left the country to play. Bowls are to teams what Spring Break is to students...and neither with give you a good idea of what the groups are like 51 weeks out of the year. (No Tennessee players arrested...do you see what I mean?)

Take Virginia Tech/Tennessee. What does that game say about how good Virginia Tech is compared to Alabama. ANSWER: Nothing, but the temptation is to think that VT would beat Bama...and yet that is not the case. How bad could Bama have beaten Tennessee if Bama has 4 weeks off before playing the Vols like the Hokeys had? These considerations are not factored into the casual conference vs. conference comparisons that happen this time of year.

Take Florida/Cincinnati. Do you suppose the Gators were plaing inspired, and do you suppose that might have been spawned by the revelation that CUM may be coaching his last game? Do you suppose the Bearcats were a bit shell-shocked and distracted by having their coach bolt on them, and this after being denied a shot at the title after the best season in the history of the school?

And don't get me started on the fairness of the match-ups. The SEC doesn't get the joy of 10 Bowls without being paired as the underdog here and there. What other conference is offering up its #10 team so that a #10 vs a #10 can be played? Heck, we play 3 Conference Champions.
Ark vs. ECU SEC #7 vs. C-USA #1.
UT vs. VT SEC #6 vs. ACC #3.
Kentucky vs. Clemson SEC #8 vs. ACC #2.
OleMiss vs. OK State SEC #5 vs. BIG12 #3.
S.Car. vs. UConn SEC #10 vs. Big East #5.
Auburn vs. Northwestern SEC #9 vs. Big 10 #5.
LSU vs. PSU SEC #3 vs. Big 10 #2.
FLA vs. Cin SEC #2 vs Big East #1.
BAMA vs. Texas SEC #1 vs BIG12 #1
UGA vs. TA&M SEC #4 vs. BIG12 #9

Apples-to-Apples. Conference standing-to-Conference standing, we are underdogs in 8 games, favorites in 1, and correctly paired in 1.

That's facing teams that averaged finished 2.3 ranking positions better in their conference that our teams did in the SEC. And we went 4 and 4 in the role of underdog. We won the game we were supposed to win, and are favored in the rightly paired match-up to come.

If Bama wins, the SEC would have gone 6-4 in games where we should have gone 2-8...if Bowls were a good measuring tool for comparing Conferences.

Excellent analysis. :td:

 

[reger60]

South Carolina should be embarrassed. What ever happened to that offensive genious over there?

I couldn't agree more. I'm curious if there's any "fire Steve Spurier" conversation going on over there. After that game, I've got to believe that their fans are grumbling.