🏈 SEC adopts "roster management" rules to address oversigning in football

[BAMANEWSBOT]

Presidents reduce signing limit to 25, compromise for now on summer school

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[shipley00]

Some compromises were made. The SEC proposed -- but did not itself adopt -- a national rule that would count summer enrollees against a school's scholarship numbers for the next academic year.

Anyone that thinks they fully understand this, could you explain this to me? Don't all Freshmen enroll in summer/fall? This thing is all convoluted. I'm glad our SEC presidents are caving to populist peer pressure, while they seem fine with some of the poorest officiating out of all the conferences and fathers pimping out their kids to a school.

 

[TerryP]

Anyone that thinks they fully understand this, could you explain this to me? Don't all Freshmen enroll in summer/fall? This thing is all convoluted. I'm glad our SEC presidents are caving to populist peer pressure, while they seem fine with some of the poorest officiating out of all the conferences and fathers pimping out their kids to a school.

Two things.

It won't have that great of an impact on Alabama—or any SEC school—if we manage our roster carefully. Notice, there is no clause in these new rules about back-counting. So technically, given room, we can still sign 28 kids if we want to. Three in December/January as early enrolles and then the other 25 on NSD.

I see what they are getting at...it's a shot at grey-shirting. If a kid is going to pay his way through the summer and fall, it'll count towards the 85. IF he waits until the fall, it won't by the way I understand it.

Secondly.

Don't expect this story, and ones like it, to go away anytime soon. Much like Yahoo jumped all over the USC case and did all of that investigation into Bush, the NY Times is after this over-signing story. One of their prime examples is going to be Saban no matter the fact there are coaches out there who have been far more egregious with their signing classes. I can't blame them. Both the name Saban and Alabama garner attention—immediately and nationally.

I suspect they'll be interviewing every player we've had leave—or will leave this summer—looking for anything they can.

Prepare yourself for rivals to have a hay-day with this...that is, until you happen to mention it's a "pot calling kettle black" situation.

 

[psychojoe]

I second what Terry said regarding what effect this will have on us. Roster management is the key concept here, and CNS has a reputation for meticulous attention to all the details. He has not violated any rule as it exists at present. Much like Coach Bryant, Coach Saban's knowledge of and taking advantage of existing rules has resulted in rules changes.

To me the loser here is the borderline academic qualifier. With the number of signees restricted SEC schools will be less inclined to sign someone who might not be available because of academics. The winners will be conferences such as the Big East, which have lower academic requirements than the SEC.

 

[TerryP]

It's been a couple of years since I've done the research on academic requirements for the BCS and non-BCS schools. When it comes to the PAC, and the two "Big ##,?"SEC fans don't have to worry about losing players to those conferences. Big East and the ACC will benefit mightly on this new ruling.

 

[BamaDevO]

While I hate the fact that kids get into school and lose schollys regularly in the SEC, this will not stop all of it. It will continue to happen.
The SEC over-signs due to the fact that this is a talent-rich conference. period. I think they are trying to get it straightened out, but I think we'll see more in the future about this. They will probably revisit it as early as next year.

 

[TerryP]

One thing I am curious about...

If the NY Times does interview a lot of players do they choose to interview Star Jackson? After all, he transferred from Bama and then ended up leaving Ga. State as well a few months later.

 

[planomateo]

While I hate the fact that kids get into school and lose schollys regularly in the SEC, this will not stop all of it. It will continue to happen.
The SEC over-signs due to the fact that this is a talent-rich conference. period. I think they are trying to get it straightened out, but I think we'll see more in the future about this. They will probably revisit it as early as next year.

i don't agree with it being talent-rich...there are plenty of other areas that are talent rich and they don't deploy roster management changes - or at least they aren't getting all the press. guess that is what happens when you win NC after NC after NC, the other guys look for potential rust spots.

 

[planomateo]

One thing I am curious about...

If the NY Times does interview a lot of players do they choose to interview Star Jackson? After all, he transferred from Bama and then ended up leaving Ga. State as well a few months later.

good point, but would go against the message they are trying to create. interviewing star would probably devalue the oversigning issue they are selling. the fact that he couldn't be a starter at a brand new football program speaks volumes in my book.