🏈 Scholarships

Of course, if a player was on a academic scholarship, he wouldn't have to have a athletic one and that could be used for other players. Is there a limit on that? What if, for example, you have a great "swimmer" who can also punt 70 yards. Does that kind of stuff happen?
 
Because of sports overlapping and sit being pretty much year around, chances are a kid gets a scholly in his sport and that he/she might be allowed to move over to the other sport later. I coached a kid that went to Birmingham Southern several years back that was a baseball/basketball player. He signed with basketball and was allowed to go to baseball once he had learned the system and had completed his season. He pitched out of the bullpen his last 2 years.
 
rammajamma said:
Of course, if a player was on a academic scholarship, he wouldn't have to have a athletic one and that could be used for other players. Is there a limit on that? What if, for example, you have a great "swimmer" who can also punt 70 yards. Does that kind of stuff happen?

I don't know if I've seen a guy that can punt 70 yards.

But, bottom line to your theory, even if the player was on a non-athletic scholarship if he played he'd count against the total of 85. Think of it in the same terms as the Bryant Scholarship in that regard.
 
As far as the "other sports" scholarship thing goes, a swimmer on scholarship who also happens to play football would count against our 85 unless he had already completed his swimming eligibility. Coach Bryant used to hide extra football players on things like golf and tennis scholarships until the NCAA changed the rules.
 
TerryP said:
rammajamma said:
Of course, if a player was on a academic scholarship, he wouldn't have to have a athletic one and that could be used for other players. Is there a limit on that? What if, for example, you have a great "swimmer" who can also punt 70 yards. Does that kind of stuff happen?

I don't know if I've seen a guy that can punt 70 yards.

But, bottom line to your theory, even if the player was on a non-athletic scholarship if he played he'd count against the total of 85. Think of it in the same terms as the Bryant Scholarship in that regard.

Speaking of Punting 70 yards.....
I grew up with a guy that went to Huntington College in Montgomery. He was their punter. He holds the school record for a 67 yard punt. I know its not 70 but its dang close!
 
TerryP said:
rammajamma said:
Of course, if a player was on a academic scholarship, he wouldn't have to have a athletic one and that could be used for other players. Is there a limit on that? What if, for example, you have a great "swimmer" who can also punt 70 yards. Does that kind of stuff happen?

I don't know if I've seen a guy that can punt 70 yards.

But, bottom line to your theory, even if the player was on a non-athletic scholarship if he played he'd count against the total of 85. Think of it in the same terms as the Bryant Scholarship in that regard.

Did you see the Florida punter warming up at half time in the SEC Championship game? He was kicking from the 20 and they were landing on the 10. I have never seen anything like it before.
 
TerryP said:
rammajamma said:
Of course, if a player was on a academic scholarship, he wouldn't have to have a athletic one and that could be used for other players. Is there a limit on that? What if, for example, you have a great "swimmer" who can also punt 70 yards. Does that kind of stuff happen?

I don't know if I've seen a guy that can punt 70 yards.

But, bottom line to your theory, even if the player was on a non-athletic scholarship if he played he'd count against the total of 85. Think of it in the same terms as the Bryant Scholarship in that regard.

Greg Gant, Bama's punter in the early seventies, had a very strong leg, and it was bot unheard of for him to land one sixty yards from the line of scrimmage. Sadly, he is most remembered as the punter who had two kicks blocked in the 4th quarter of the 1972 Alabama Auburn game, leading the barn to a 17-16 upset win, and forever labelling that game the "Punt, Bama Punt" game.
 
By the time you take away the 13-15 yards from the line of scrimmage, you have about a 55 yard kick with no pressure at all. On these longs recording long punts, include the yardage that the ball rolls. Tank Williamson punted here back in the early 90's and he would have alot like PJ and then get a 70 yarder( 25 of which would come from the roll).
 
Also, those long punts don't mean squat if you out kick the coverage and the guy runs it back for a TD. I kicked in high school and actually had it happen on back to back punts. I hit the first at 50 with no return but we were called for holding. On the re kick, I hit another 50+ and the cover team loafed down and he took it back 75 to the house. That was the difference in the game.
 
Rolling Tide said:
TerryP said:
rammajamma said:
Of course, if a player was on a academic scholarship, he wouldn't have to have a athletic one and that could be used for other players. Is there a limit on that? What if, for example, you have a great "swimmer" who can also punt 70 yards. Does that kind of stuff happen?

I don't know if I've seen a guy that can punt 70 yards.

But, bottom line to your theory, even if the player was on a non-athletic scholarship if he played he'd count against the total of 85. Think of it in the same terms as the Bryant Scholarship in that regard.

Did you see the Florida punter warming up at half time in the SEC Championship game? He was kicking from the 20 and they were landing on the 10. I have never seen anything like it before.

Yah, I've seen players kick extremely well in warm-ups. The player that "wowed" me was years ago...seeing Danny White in practice gear kicking. I'd swear his right leg was twice the size of his left.

By a 70 yard punt, I was joking...but in all seriousness, thinking from the line of scrimmage. In UF's case, what would that make it...65 yard punt? Until, you add the snap and rush and suddenly they lose 25-30 yards of distance.

I'm trying to think of the game...announcers were talking about a kicker we were facing that was routinely kicking FG's from the 50 yard line like that was supposed to mean something...never mind there was no defensive line he had to kick over, which effected the trajectory, which in turn effects the distance...
 
Jonathon Kilgo, Georgia's punter back around 2002 I think, went to my highschool. In highschool he could kick a field goal from the 60 all day long. He once punted a ball 64 yards that was fair caught his senior season in highschool.
 
A guy I played high school ball with punted one which was officially 70+. It probably rolled 10-20, though.

A guy I used to play baseball with punted at Tulane. He still holds the record (college or pro) for longest punt in the Superdome of 73 yards, which was downed at the one yard line. He's a pretty decent punter. :lol:
 
rammajamma said:
Whatever happened to trying to kick it out of bounds on the 1? Now they run down and try to down it, but that kick used to be a killer. I even remember teams having punters who specialized in it.

The corner kick has definitely become a lost art. I guess it is easier to teach a kid the pooch kick or the high short one that can be downed. The old coffin corner kick has an extra virtue. If you are adept at kicking it to the sideline you can limit the threat of a great punt returner.
 

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