šŸˆ Scholarship numbers heading into signing day, 2014.

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This comes with a few HUGE caveats. One, math isn't my forte'. Two, in some situations this is speculation. If there's one thing that's been a constant since Saban has been in Tuscaloosa it's the fact we've never known, without a shadow of doubt, who is on scholarship and who isn't.

With that being said...

These numbers are fluid. As example, we've had four juniors declare they are entering the draft. I do have reason to believe we'll have more move on and try their hands at the next level.

In terms of eligibility (Seniors) a rough count gives me 13 guys leaving. With those juniors, that leaves us with 17 departures at this time.

Fanning takes it to 18. If we ended the year with 85 it would leave the team with 67 returning for the 2014 season.

That 67 includes two players I feel won't be back—Dickson and Kamara.

Now, as we stand today:

We have eight guys who reported for the spring semester and spring camp. Now that number is at 75 on scholly. Assuming our class is at the 25 mark for signees (who qualify and report and are on scholarship—Holcombe won't be) we're now looking at 92 on scholarship.

(Here's one of the speculations—we end up with more than 25 commitments, but only 25 on scholarship.)

You've done the math. That leaves us with seven guys too many.

The one thing I can't forecast is how many guys have graduated and will choose to move on from football. Just as an example, on the defensive line alone, Orr, Love, and Ivory have all graduated and all three have eligibility remaining. Jarrick Williams in another on defense.

For what it's worth there were 28 guys who played in the Sugar Bowl who've already received their degrees.
 
"That 67 includes two players I feel won't be back..."

Vinnie leaving makes this number 66.

Again, by my math, that leaves six spots that'll have to be addressed...
 
Another example of this is Corey Grant at AU. He played as a freshman at Alabama during the 2007 season, I've never understood how was he still playing at AU 6 years later in the 2013 season?

Wrong player. Corey was a senior in highschool in 2009. You are thinking of Terry Grant, who plays football in Canada now.
 
Wrong player. Corey was a senior in highschool in 2009. You are thinking of Terry Grant, who plays football in Canada now.
Hijacking this for a second...anyone heard if he was arrested yet? Had a warrant issued four days ago in MS.

Traffic stop, ran, dropped a bag with a lot of powder.
 
Terry, any other changes in the scholarship count? Do we have any players that you know of that have parents paying tuition? Do we have any players on academic scholarship and not athletic? Finally, do you know of any players on the Bear Bryant scholarship? Sorry to ask so many questions, I was just thinking of ways CNS will have will have more scholarships to offer the 6-7 players that right now, puts us over the 85 limit.

Not a whole lot to do today with a level 2 snow emergency in effect and the temps dropping fast.
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Terry, any other changes in the scholarship count? Do we have any players that you know of that have parents paying tuition? Do we have any players on academic scholarship and not athletic? Finally, do you know of any players on the Bear Bryant scholarship? Sorry to ask so many questions, I was just thinking of ways CNS will have will have more scholarships to offer the 6-7 players that right now, puts us over the 85 limit.

Not a whole lot to do today with a level 2 snow emergency in effect and the temps dropping fast.

No changes I've not mentioned in this thread...at least none that I know of.

I can't answer parents paying. If we have a kid or two grayshirt it'll give us a better idea.

Academic scholarships? That's question left for the fall because about the only time it comes into play is with a walk-on.

Bryant Scholarship? Keith Holcombe is the only one in this class that qualifies for one.

I'm guess we're looking at signing three to five more guys. I've seen it speculated that we've got a back-counter for last year. I have no idea who or how they've come to that conclusion.

I'm not so worried about the 85. Graduation, attrition, etc. will take care of a lot of that.

The 25 initials intrigues me more than anything.
Level two snow emergency? That's Greek to me.

Sunny, well getting a little cloudy, and I've been working in my garden mixing compost in for several hours today...probably 60-63° right now.

I'm sure you didn't need to know that though... :icon_twisted:
 
Add Coker and that puts us back at 66.

In an interview with Boston he mentioned Saban didn't offer, but may if some of the guys didn't qualify. I've heard all are close but it's important to remember we're dealing with the NCAA Clearing House—where nothing is ever set in stone.

I'm still thinking we need six spots, possibly seven.
 
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His numbers don't match mine. However, at this point he forgot to include Vinnie coming off of a scholarship and didn't include the possibility Holcombe could take a Bryant.
 
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His numbers don't match mine. However, at this point he forgot to include Vinnie coming off of a scholarship and didn't include the possibility Holcombe could take a Bryant.


I wouldn't be surprised to see us barely make it under the bar. I'm expecting we lose 1-2 QBs and 1 RB but speculation is all we have until we see the final tally <iframe id="rufous-sandbox" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowtransparency="true" style="display: none; "></iframe>
 
Just for reference: Players who have graduated. H/T to Chris Walsh

Graduated before December ...
Jalston Fowler
Harrison Jones
Arie Kouandjio
Chad Lindsay
Austin Shepherd
Brian Vogler

Graduated in December …
Brandon Ivory
Wilson Love
Anthony Orr
Nick Perry
DeAndrew White
Jarrick Williams
 
Just for reference: Players who have graduated. H/T to Chris Walsh

Graduated before December ...
Jalston Fowler
Harrison Jones
Arie Kouandjio
Chad Lindsay
Austin Shepherd
Brian Vogler

Graduated in December …
Brandon Ivory
Wilson Love
Anthony Orr
Nick Perry
DeAndrew White
Jarrick Williams

Of those players, only Orr and Love are gone right?
 
[MENTION=17048]bamafan9201[/MENTION] If we were to guess on two that might be leaving there's a good place to start.

Orr played in four games last year, all blowouts. Love isn't listed on the 2013 participation chart.
 
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