🏈 Saban & Orgeron - Post Game Pressers "They dominated us all night" - Ed Orgeron

[planomateo]

 

[Bamabww]

I enjoyed both of those press conferences.

 

[TerryP]

I enjoyed both of those press conferences.

There's only one thing that I can't wrap my head around.

“I think Alabama overpowered us,” Orgeron said. “When you max protect, when you do everything you can to protect and they’re beating you, you gotta look at personnel. You gotta get better. I don’t think it was scheme at all.”​

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On offense, it's the same scheme that led to Miles being fired. It's the same scheme that has led to a series of disappointing seasons we've seen for the LSU faithful. But, there's nothing wrong with the scheme at all?

Yes, their defense did hold Bama to less than it's scoring average. A hat tip to them on how well they did keeping Bama out of the end zone a few times. But, let's not overlook the obvious. During this run of nine games with 500+ yards, this vaunted defensive scheme allowed Bama to rack up 576 yards on offense, almost 300 of that through the air. But, there's nothing wrong with the scheme at all?

I'll readily agree with Orgeron that the talent gap is there. It's bigger today than it was three or four years ago. And that leads me to one of my final thoughts on LSU.

Brian Kelly commented this week that "Bama's business model is different than that of Notre Dame." He was referring to how the program is managed, or administered. It's, and I'm using this term loosely, the "scheme" that Saban has installed at Bama on how his program will run.

With a new moniker of L8U today...I'd say the business model--or scheme if you will--that LSU is still employing is wrong. I'm betting dollars to donuts we're going to see analyst say, "they have to bring an RPO system in for success." (Is that a different scheme?)

 

[planomateo]

L8U

:rolf:

 

[TUSKtimes]

I'll readily agree with Orgeron that the talent gap is there. It's bigger today than it was three or four years ago. And that leads me to one of my final thoughts on LSU.

I would agree that talent is not at Les Miles level, overall. But even then, under Miles, we've had to listen to the tiger fans moaning and groaning after every loss about the obvious talent gap on the OL and LBer. The problem is they have offensive linemen and LBers all over the NFL rosters. There are talent gaps and there are myths that are nothing more than built-in excuses on why they can't beat Alabama.


Some of the OL that have started for L8U this year:

 

[bamachine]

I enjoyed both of those press conferences.

There's only one thing that I can't wrap my head around.

“I think Alabama overpowered us,” Orgeron said. “When you max protect, when you do everything you can to protect and they’re beating you, you gotta look at personnel. You gotta get better. I don’t think it was scheme at all.”​

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On offense, it's the same scheme that led to Miles being fired. It's the same scheme that has led to a series of disappointing seasons we've seen for the LSU faithful. But, there's nothing wrong with the scheme at all?

I don't think he was saying that they run a perfect scheme, he is saying they just plain got dominated and no scheme could have beaten Bama last night. They tried every wrinkle but none of it worked. Bama played it's most dominant, disciplined defense last night. If they keep that up, nobody is getting within 2 TDs of Bama, even in the CFP.

BTW, how about LS0.

 

[TerryP]

BTW, how about LS0.

:clap:

 

[TerryP]

@bamachine, Okay, look at his statement under this light.

"I don't think there's anything wrong with the scheme" but according to what we were told the LSU 'braintrust' determined pre-game/in game prep that all of Tua's throws were predetermined before the snap?

 

[planomateo]

SIGNIFICANT gap over the last 4 years. Pay no attention to Clemson's numbers LSU fans.

Blue chip = 4* & 5* per 247 composite.

 

[planomateo]

Interesting perspective on just how big the room is.

 

[TerryP]

Interesting perspective on just how big the room is.

I can't remember if I mentioned this to you a few months ago or not...

You mentioned early on this season about how the background in Tuscaloosa (press room) wasn't a good color. One of the first things I noticed about away game pressers this season is Bama is taking their own backdrop with them to each game. A lot of the times the background Bama is using for away games is much better looking than the home teams' permanent backdrop.

I'd suggest to one and all alike take special note of Bama's press room. Not only is the background one of the few that's actually electronic, it's hands down one of the better looking rooms across the entire NCAA landscape.

 

[planomateo]

My issue is with the colors, numerous times the colors blend in with Coach Saban. Details

I love the electronic background though.

 

[TerryP]

@planomateo,

Here's one of the examples I was referring to...and this with all the money T, Boone has coughed up to OSU.




EMPTY on top of that!

 

[#80]

Ed O finally got something right.

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

 

[Max]

He threw his team under the bus. I can't see it any other way.

https://www.wwltv.com/article/sport...s-takes-big-risk-after-lsu-loss/289-611300051

 

[planomateo]

Imagine what would happen if the players made a comment like that about the coaches...

I mean, as Orgeron said. It's "tell the truth Monday".

 

[planomateo]

Oh snap, auto correcting his name spelling, beautiful

 

[TerryP]

After blaming talent deficiencies on his offensive and defensive lines Saturday night, Orgeron changed his tune Monday and took up for his players. This made sense as far as Orgeron's self-preservation. He has been involved with the recruitment of much of LSU's roster as he became an LSU assistant coach heavily involved in recruiting in January of 2015. His hands are all over the last three LSU signing classes - 2016, '17 and '18. And there is only one senior in a playing role on on either line in left guard Garrett Brumfield, who signed in 2014.​

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So, any talent deficiency can no longer be blamed alone on former coach Les Miles, who was fired early in the 2016 season.​

"We tried everything we could on offense," Orgeron said Saturday night. "They just beat us on the line of scrimmage. They whooped us. They just whooped us. We've got to recruit better on the offensive and defensive lines. Same old thing. You've got to beat Alabama on the line of scrimmage. It had nothing to do with scheme I think Alabama overpowered us, and there was nothing we could do about it."​

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Orgeron watched film of the game on Sunday, which must have been difficult. His team gained a season-low 196 yards and allowed a season-high 576.​

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"After review of the film, an extensive review all day yesterday, number one - coach better," Orgeron said. "Start with me. Coach better. Put our guys in better position. Schemes could have been better. The guys did a good job for the most part, but there's some things that we (the coaches and all those new analysts) could have done better for our team. That's number one."​

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The players agreed.​

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The tune has changed.

https://www.shreveporttimes.com/sto...ic-bama-game-recovery-time-enough/1895465002/

 

[TerryP]

Oh snap, auto correcting his name spelling, beautiful

I have to admit, I'm still laughing...