🏈 Players forgoing bowl games

[Tidestalker]

Yeah, I've never been ok with that. I understand the recruiting aspect, and maybe Coach Saban was on to something with that as well when talking about dead periods while his teams play weeks after some, especially with this playoff deal making it a week or so longer. Coaches should stick it out till the end. It's morphed into an imperfect system the more human nature got involved and the money, "in the end, it's all about the dollars" (Nicki Santoro)

My favorite movie!!! Damn I haven't seen that in forever. Will watch over break!

 

[JoshB]

Coaches leaving before the bowl game is scummy as hell to me. I think recruiting is the main thing but I also think some coaches are just spineless and dont want to have to answer those questions they KNOW is coming from their players or even look some of them in the face (probably because he's made a shit load of promises he will never see through).

The worst is when a coach leaves with about 5-6 games left in the season... not get fired... leaves to another job... I'm looking at you Bobby Petrino you scumbag... I seriously can't stand that. Actually had a "discussion" with a sports "writer" from Troy at a public function over that scumbag. A bunch of us were discussing how crazy it was that Lane Kiffin still hadn't landed a head coaching job yet. And I threw out Petrino's name and said that it blew my mind that guy could keep getting job after job despite being the low life piece of shit he is. And the other "gentleman" proceed to argue with me for 30 minutes that it's because Petrino "wins" and thats all that matters. Those Conference USA and Big East Championships are so prestigious and all...

 

[Tidestalker]

Coaches leaving before the bowl game is scummy as hell to me. I think recruiting is the main thing but I also think some coaches are just spineless and dont want to have to answer those questions they KNOW is coming from their players or even look some of them in the face (probably because he's made a **** load of promises he will never see through).

The worst is when a coach leaves with about 5-6 games left in the season... not get fired... leaves to another job... I'm looking at you Bobby Petrino you scumbag... I seriously can't stand that. Actually had a "discussion" with a sports "writer" from Troy at a public function over that scumbag. A bunch of us were discussing how crazy it was that Lane Kiffin still hadn't landed a head coaching job yet. And I threw out Petrino's name and said that it blew my mind that guy could keep getting job after job despite being the low life piece of **** he is. And the other "gentleman" proceed to argue with me for 30 minutes that it's because Petrino "wins" and thats all that matters. Those Conference USA and Big East Championships are so prestigious and all...

You, in a prolonged argument?! Haha. Just playing man. I totally agree.

It's hard to tell these top tier kids they need to finish the season when their coaches are jumping at the first better opportunity. Ultimately, the kids are looking for a better opportunity too. Wish there was some way to make these coaches finish the season, but then there would have to be some clause that allows them to be fired. Then who replaces them...? I guess make them do it internally? Could work. Would definetly be less firings if you couldn't go poaching mid season.

The whole CF system is really strange. This whole conversation really boils down to 10-20 players a year. I'm sure theirs a few kids just like in recruiting or leaving early that get bad advice and would want to sit out. But my whole point is based around the overly gifted guys that are really playing a dangerous game with a (basically) guaranteed livelihood. I'm aware there are plenty of kids who come back and improve their draft stock, but there's also the Miles Jack/Jaylon Smith type of injuries that can change it all.

 

[OldPlayer]

Re: A HC leaving before a bowl game

Why would you want him to stick around? He's checked out. His focus is elsewhere. The interim coach will do a better job because they are most likely using the interim job as an interview for their next job - at that school or somewhere else.

 

[UAgrad93]

Re: A HC leaving before a bowl game

Why would you want him to stick around? He's checked out. His focus is elsewhere. The interim coach will do a better job because they are most likely using the interim job as an interview for their next job - at that school or somewhere else.

Like fRan did before the IB that year. His ass had checked out before that week rolled in. BAMA would have been better off with an interim to finish that season.

 

[Tidestalker]

Re: A HC leaving before a bowl game

Why would you want him to stick around? He's checked out. His focus is elsewhere. The interim coach will do a better job because they are most likely using the interim job as an interview for their next job - at that school or somewhere else.

Apply that to players looking forward to the NFL draft... The backup will be way more excited to play in that meaningless bowl game, right?

 

[BamaFan334]

Re: A HC leaving before a bowl game

Why would you want him to stick around? He's checked out. His focus is elsewhere. The interim coach will do a better job because they are most likely using the interim job as an interview for their next job - at that school or somewhere else.

I understand that, but it's still no excuse. That's like saying, well, if enough quits high school, maybe we should do away with a high school education. It doesn't exonerate them of what they still owe a program, and that's simply a standard they need to be held to. This crap has simply gone too damn far in the scheme of things. We like to think there is order to all of this, but college football is the Wild West right now. Between all of the commitment flips, academic misconduct, transfers, blocking transfers, boosters, agents, coaching changes, buyouts, tv money, it's all becoming a big fucking joke. To me, that's simply being a bad employee. It'll never get punishment attached, but in a real work environment your ass would not be re-hireable, which again, hurts your reputation, but a lot of people don't care about reputation anymore.

 

[planomateo]

Wondering when someone will have the courage to do this prior to a playoff game or the championship game.

 

[planomateo]

I understand that, but it's still no excuse. That's like saying, well, if enough quits high school, maybe we should do away with a high school education. It doesn't exonerate them of what they still owe a program, and that's simply a standard they need to be held to. This crap has simply gone too damn far in the scheme of things. We like to think there is order to all of this, but college football is the Wild West right now. Between all of the commitment flips, academic misconduct, transfers, blocking transfers, boosters, agents, coaching changes, buyouts, tv money, it's all becoming a big ******* joke. To me, that's simply being a bad employee. It'll never get punishment attached, but in a real work environment your ass would not be re-hireable, which again, hurts your reputation, but a lot of people don't care about reputation anymore.

Real world? People leave jobs all the time, give a notice and they're off to a new job. You never really know how much notice coaches give their AD when these things happen, there could be a really open dialogue all season long about wanting to pursue another opportunity when the time comes.

When should coaches leave, after the bowl game?

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you're saying.

 

[musso]

Haha I love the "I understand it, but don't agree with it" responses. Let me translate: "If I also possessed the physical and athletic skills to make millions in the NFL, I'd also skip the bowls too. Buuuuuuut since I'm not in their shoes and need to be entertained, I'm mad that they aren't participating."

I've been lobbying for a while that to keep the grand theft of amateur athletics afloat, they need to let kick off classics replace all these crappy post-season bowls. That way the games are meaningful as the first of a promising new season when every team is hyped. Meanwhile, expand the play-off to the final 6 or 8. And if you don't make the play-off, your players get some much deserved R&R while those entering the NFL draft can get a head start at rehabbing/preparing for the combines.

 

[planomateo]

Haha I love the "I understand it, but don't agree with it" responses. Let me translate: "If I also possessed the physical and athletic skills to make millions in the NFL, I'd also skip the bowls too. Buuuuuuut since I'm not in their shoes and need to be entertained, I'm mad that they aren't participating."

I learned long ago not to speak for others, don't attempt to translate what I'm saying since you quoted what I said.

 

[Tidestalker]

Haha I love the "I understand it, but don't agree with it" responses. Let me translate: "If I also possessed the physical and athletic skills to make millions in the NFL, I'd also skip the bowls too. Buuuuuuut since I'm not in their shoes and need to be entertained, I'm mad that they aren't participating."

Ultimately I agree with this.

I'm also someone who wants to be entertained at the highest level as well.. But I cannot objectively defend the idea of the best prospects not using what little leverage they have to do what's best for themselves.

 

[planomateo]

:shock:

 

[TUSKtimes]

I agree, Fournette is hard to give the benefit of the doubt to even with an ankle. Who's done less with more? Biggest games, biggest disappearance. Maybe his greatest claim to fame is that he decided to stay in BR instead of wearing crimson. It's the only thing that could explain all the cajun love for a chronic underachiever.

 

[BamaFan334]

Haha I love the "I understand it, but don't agree with it" responses. Let me translate: "If I also possessed the physical and athletic skills to make millions in the NFL, I'd also skip the bowls too. Buuuuuuut since I'm not in their shoes and need to be entertained, I'm mad that they aren't participating."

I've been lobbying for a while that to keep the grand theft of amateur athletics afloat, they need to let kick off classics replace all these crappy post-season bowls. That way the games are meaningful as the first of a promising new season when every team is hyped. Meanwhile, expand the play-off to the final 6 or 8. And if you don't make the play-off, your players get some much deserved R&R while those entering the NFL draft can get a head start at rehabbing/preparing for the combines.

Well I understand your political views favor your personal life, but I don't agree with your politics. That a little cleaner for your delicate senses? Enough with trying to act like a philosopher and above everyone intellectually, because you come across as a clown.

 

[BamaFan334]

Real world? People leave jobs all the time, give a notice and they're off to a new job. You never really know how much notice coaches give their AD when these things happen, there could be a really open dialogue all season long about wanting to pursue another opportunity when the time comes.

When should coaches leave, after the bowl game?

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you're saying.

I think it's bullshit to leave your team before the job is finished is what I'm getting at. By the standards of some here, was there anything wrong with what Spurrier did leaving in the middle of year, or what Petrino did with the Falcons? I think coaches and players should finish their current season if healthy, just my opinion.

 

[TheChief]

Just throwing something out here...I'm thinking to myself I would not leave the team early. It doesn't seem right. Sort of like leaving a job without turning in a notice. However...

Have any of us ever had that boss? You know the one. The one pushing your buttons for his or her own amusement. The one with that smirk, telling you you'll work tomorrow when you had plans.

You work for the company, but it always seems the company isn't really working with us in mind. Have you ever thought to yourself, "If I had the chance, I'd walk out this door right now. They don't even deserve the courtesy of a notice."

Could some of this be happening?

 

[planomateo]

 

[JoshB]

 

[JoshB]

A guy that was suspended this year for "attitude issues"... why is this not surprising? This is hilarious for a guy that probably wont get drafted until the 5th round or later (if it at all).