🏈 Play Clock Management

[mando]

Ok if this has been discussed somewhere I have missed it so thought I would start this conversation.

Under CKD the play clock is almost always below 5 seconds when the ball is snapped. It is maddening and I think impacts the flow of the offense and gives the D an advanatage. Since this continues to occur I can only assume it is by design. Thoughts?

 

[#80]

Play calling and TS trying to do too much at LOS. IMO.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

Play calling and TS trying to do too much at LOS. IMO.

This... but it's on the staff for giving him so much free reign. They are too often (IMO) making it a pre-snap chess match instead of just playing football. The way this offense is designed, the pre snap motions already put some stress on the defense while also tipping their hand in terms of coverages. Smetimes, I think sticking with the original play would be the better course to take. I do like it when they run more tempo because they do less checks and the sugar huddle plays mixed in are also a nice touch. But I do think they are trying to do a little too much sometimes in terms of trying to adjust and then having to snap the ball with 1 second left.

 

[#80]

This... but it's on the staff for giving him so much free reign. They are too often (IMO) making it a pre-snap chess match instead of just playing football. The way this offense is designed, the pre snap motions already put some stress on the defense while also tipping their hand in terms of coverages. Smetimes, I think sticking with the original play would be the better course to take. I do like it when they run more tempo because they do less checks and the sugar huddle plays mixed in are also a nice touch. But I do think they are trying to do a little too much sometimes in terms of trying to adjust and then having to snap the ball with 1 second left.

I agree 100% something tells me TS is a perfectionist and you can do too much at LOS. TO's are precious and we burn them so early.

 

[mando]

If TS is doing to much take some of the options away. Still goes back to the design of the offense and what the coaches are allowing. Does not seem to me they think it is a problem. I still think it gives the D an advatage because they know they can show one thing and TS will change the call with very little clock left then they change the D and there is no time left to adjust. Playing into the defenses hands... My 2 cents.

 

[BamaFan615]

Ty making adjustments is one thing, but this is a ball control offense.

Which is funny to say, because typically this is done through running the ball to control the clock.

When our offense has been able to control the clock, we’re a dangerous team.

Like Brandon said we also use motion to detect coverages, which cuts down the amount of time left on the clock to make adjustments. I’m not sure how often Ty is actually changing the play though (would be interesting to know). I think alot of times he’s just communicating what he’s seeing in coverages, in blitzes, who’s mike, etc.

Ty just has to be more aware of the play clock.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

Ty making adjustments is one thing, but this is a ball control offense.

Which is funny to say, because typically this is done through running the ball to control the clock.

When our offense has been able to control the clock, we’re a dangerous team.

Like Brandon said we also use motion to detect coverages, which cuts down the amount of time left on the clock to make adjustments. I’m not sure how often Ty is actually changing the play though (would be interesting to know). I think alot of times he’s just communicating what he’s seeing in coverages, in blitzes, who’s mike, etc.

Ty just has to be more aware of the play clock.

The headset prevents much of the sign-stealing, but many times the playcallers have been using that to give last-second instructions after watching the D move. This has essentially boxed in our O to have less than fifteen seconds to make calls, motion, read and snap.

I will say that, despite having a lackluster running game, we strive to have time-consuming drives. Using almost all of the playclock between plays accomplishes that, barring penalty or incompletion.

 

[shipley00]

With all the motion and all the changes at the LOS, could we please just add on damn hot route to the mix? Tired of seeing defenders practically falling over the line on a blitz and no plays called to that vacated position.

 

[OldPlayer]

The objective is to use the clock so your opponent doesn’t have time to use. You’ll typically see this earlier in the game or when you want to hang on to a lead. Yes, sometimes Simpson uses too much time calling audibles or he’s waiting for the line to call theirs. It’s all part of the game.

 

[Nothing_But_A_Winner00]

Play Clock Management

I'm in favor of it

 

[50+yeartidefan]

I dont know who is thinking what....but i do know,....its frustrating to watch....
Never seen any team ever...do so much of it...
On occasion ....but part of strategy of running offense plays...

do all that shit....and then run up middle for no gain.....damn

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

In all fairness to #15, Grubb is not getting the initial play called until there is about 17-20 seconds left on the clock, Bama sets up and then the defense sets up and if they have you covered you then have no time to counter that. Just run the play regardless?

I am wrong 99% of the time but what I see is a route tree that is way too long when the opposing DC is blitzing you with more than you can block and doing it over and over.

I watched the game again last night and the entire 4th QTR #71 was at left guard. The guy is terrible. #56 started at LG. I am unsure as to the reason for the substitution pattern and why. If it is to keep fresh players, then fine but if it's about production then someone in accounting needs to check the scoring system of the OL coach.

#88 TE could be very helpful. #81 isn't ready for the speed of the game at this point. He can't block nor catch. You can't have two receivers in the game that can't catch in 81 and 2.

 

[Justneedme81]

It's not just Alabama doing this. Other teams are doing the same thing.

It's smart to wait until fifteen seconds so they can't steal info. As long the ball is snapped, I don't care.

 

[94 Grad]

Ok if this has been discussed somewhere I have missed it so thought I would start this conversation.

Under CKD the play clock is almost always below 5 seconds when the ball is snapped. It is maddening and I think impacts the flow of the offense and gives the D an advanatage. Since this continues to occur I can only assume it is by design. Thoughts?

I don't really have too much of an issue with it.... ball/clock control has been great because of it. If we get a lead, it really punishes the other team as they will have limited chances with the ball as we tend to run a lot of clock with each drive.

 

[BamaFan615]

When does the headset audio cut out? Under 10 on play clock?

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

When does the headset audio cut out? Under 10 on play clock?

When it hits 15 seconds left on the play clock it goes dark.

 

[alabama mike]

At this point in the season, there is NO EXCUSE for a delay of game unless it is intentional to take more time off the clock. CRG has to get the play in quicker and Ty has to call it, get the team to the LOS quickly and make necessary adjustments. Early in the season, I can understand some bumps with the clock. One other thing, we need to milk as much clock as possible later in the game with a 10 point plus lead but DO NOT go conservative. We actually play better on offense when we play uptempo.

 

[Tidexc1]

If you notice, CRG went back up to the booth for this past game which I think helped get the plays called in a bit quicker. He had been on the field for the last 3 (I believe) games and decided to move back upstairs.

 

[Secondand26]

When it hits 15 seconds left on the play clock it goes dark.

Kinda like the in-game threads on here. 15 seconds in & it gets very dark!

 

[Rolltide24]

Running the play clock down to 1 does shorten the game. Helps in the time of possession stats, also. Maybe it’s by design. We sure have burned a number of TOs early in the first and third quarters this season.