📡 Official Heisman finalists: Mac Jones, DeVonta Smith, Trevor Lawrence, & Kyle Trask

[50+yeartidefan]

That is an assumption. I've read through a lot of Clemson posts, on their boards, concerning the Heisman and you won't find that belief. Can you find something to back up your statement? I can't.

So...didntread the right ones ....obviously

 

[SoCalPatrick]

So...didntread the right ones ....obviously

If that's the case, which it isn't, why didn't you provide an example of Clemson fans saying what you've said they are?

Tigernet, 247, and Rivals. I've read them all.

 

[TerryP]

I would argue that Pitts and Toney are more important to Florida than Trask.

Please do. I'd love to hear your reasoning here. I put Emory in Kyle's place and I can't see anywhere close to the same results. I'd have to look, but I'm thinking Bryce has about as many completions this past season as Jones has attempts.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

If that's the case, which it isn't, why didn't you provide an example of Clemson fans saying what you've said they are?

Tigernet, 247, and Rivals. I've read them all.

got to much else to do. Andyou have already decided what you have decided.

glad you had time to read all on a Clemson board. Lol.

we'll find some other things to debate at a later date. Roll tide

 

[TerryP]

@50+yeartidefan for what it's worth this isn't a hill you want to die on, much less have a battle.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

@50+yeartidefan for what it's worth this isn't a hill you want to die on, much less have a battle.

Since i cant read what anyone is responding to ... kind of leaves in a gun fight with only a knive. But i think. He was challenging me saying that Clemson people feel same about TL as we feel about Smith n jones. But not real sure. And they do.
And lot of media do also...

Your right though....not even "worth" responding to....

 

[TerryP]

Since i cant read what anyone is responding to

...and I STILL have no idea why that's happening with you. N.O.N.E.

I'm hoping with the next push the WPA will settle that.

 

[TerryP]

I'm hoping with the next push the WPA will settle that.

@50+yeartidefan Sorry...WPA.

It'll work like this. As simply as I can put this...its an app that runs like the site...and that really doesn't cover it.

Coming soon...but it'll be RTB that shows up.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

...and I STILL have no idea why that's happening with you. N.O.N.E.

I'm hoping with the next push the WPA will settle that.

me needer

maybe the wpa &(&&(( or something one day will fix it.

until then. I will bask in the darkness

 

[planomateo]

Florida lost to LSU with Trask and without Pitts.

 

[UAgrad93]

Florida lost to LSU with Trask and without Pitts.

One might think that Pitts was a bit more valuable to UF than Trask.
I do think that had Trask not been on this team, Florida with Emory Jones would’ve looked more like Miss State with Dak Prescott rather than the 4-5 wide sling it around the field.

 

[rocknthefreeworld]

Please do. I'd love to hear your reasoning here. I put Emory in Kyle's place and I can't see anywhere close to the same results. I'd have to look, but I'm thinking Bryce has about as many completions this past season as Jones has attempts.

Every game Pitts averaged under 14 yards per reception (A&M) or does not play (LSU) Florida lost. Does not matter how well Trask played in either game, A&M was Pitts worst game all year and LSU he did not play and the result of both games shows Florida suffered from not having him even while having Trask. LSU seals it for me as Toney had a great game (most yards and highest yards per reception) but not having Pitts sunk them.

 

[Tidestalker]

Looks like D. Smith is a pretty solid favorite to bring home the hardware!

 

[TerryP]

Following last seasons Tua injury I listened to a bookmaker offer "Tua was worth four points per game." As it ends up, that was low; scoring offense dropped a touchdown per game.

I look at Florida and the points mentioned about Pitts—not a lot of disagreement—and I see his loss being worth a touchdown per game. It was versus LSU; only a field goal against A&M. (I believe we will all agree there were things affecting that game that were outside of the loss of Pitts; environment, UF coaching decisions and preparation for that game, etc.)

Let's put Pitts in context for a second. I say "worth a touchdown" and the numbers show his points per game sits at 9.0 for the season, 12 touchdowns on the season with four of those coming against Ole Miss to start the season. (Three against UK.)

Then we have Toney with 12 TD's on the season, Grimes with nine on the season, and split among another five or six of the two's we'll find another 12-15 touchdowns.

Enter Emory Jones—2 TD's, 1 INT on the season, 1 rushing TD—and I can't find the same production.

It's nothing against Pitts and his impact is significant with Florida's offense. His loss and its impact? I see this similar to Bama's loss of Waddle.

I do think that had Trask not been on this team, Florida with Emory Jones would’ve looked more like Miss State with Dak Prescott rather than the 4-5 wide sling it around the field.

I do as well. That's what I expect to see next season. It should run well in Gainesville next year resembling what we see with Fields and the Buckeyes this season.

 

[planomateo]

I figured we'd be a better team without Tua. Think I mentioned it last year.

I'm still left wondering how this would have turned out if Waddle was playing.

 

[rocknthefreeworld]

Enter Emory Jones—2 TD's, 1 INT on the season, 1 rushing TD—and I can't find the same production.

He's taken maybe 50 snaps all year, most of those as gadget play type things. No way to tell what he would have done had he been taking snaps with the ones all year. But I do get the argument for Trask.