🏈 Notre Dame QB Everett Golson transferring for final season (Yahoo Sports)

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SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP) -- Quarterback Everett Golson has announced he is leaving Notre Dame and will use his final season of eligibility elsewhere after graduating later this month.

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[TerryP]

Along with the conversations about Braxton Miller possibly transferring I've seen a few threads today about Golson...a few mentioning the thought "if we don't get Miller, we should go after Golson."

His name came up in a conversation a month and a half, two months ago, with some LSU fans. They were interested in seeing him move to Baton Rouge.

When I started reading over the requirements and rules in place from the SEC offices I came across a portion of their procedures that mentioned any grad transfer can't have past issues at their first school. If you recall, Golson had his at Notre Dame; academic improprieties (for lack of a better word.)

I mention that just so you guys will keep that in the back of your mind IF you happened to hear something about Everett. I could be mistaken, but the way I understood these policies from the SEC his academic issue, and resulting suspension from school, eliminates him from transferring to one of the SEC schools.

 

[Rolltide24]

Wonder why the double standard here. As in restricting grad students with prior issues vs undergrad students with prior issues. Just thinking out loud. They could get caught with drugs, beat their significant other, beat up a fellow student, rob fellow students, and the list goes on... But can't plagiarize a paper and get in. (Not saying he plagiarized a paper or anything...)

When I started reading over the requirements and rules in place from the SEC offices I came across a portion of their procedures that mentioned any grad transfer can't have past issues at their first school. If you recall, Golson had his at Notre Dame; academic improprieties (for lack of a better word.)

 

[TerryP]

Wonder why the double standard here

I haven't a clue but it's a damn good question.

I suspect it's one of those policies we'll see changed in the next season or two.

 

[psychojoe]

What on earth would Golson provide for us that we don't already have among the quarterbacks on hand. 22 turnovers in his senior seaason. 'Nuff said.

 

[BamaFan334]

Ha, I can't believe any Alabama fans are even considering/talking/wanting/defending the possibility. He's not even that good. We stopped him, and he was a turnover machine last year, so I don't see what has people excited.

 

[252BAMA]

Along with the conversations about Braxton Miller possibly transferring I've seen a few threads today about Golson...a few mentioning the thought "if we don't get Miller, we should go after Golson."

His name came up in a conversation a month and a half, two months ago, with some LSU fans. They were interested in seeing him move to Baton Rouge.

When I started reading over the requirements and rules in place from the SEC offices I came across a portion of their procedures that mentioned any grad transfer can't have past issues at their first school. If you recall, Golson had his at Notre Dame; academic improprieties (for lack of a better word.)

I mention that just so you guys will keep that in the back of your mind IF you happened to hear something about Everett. I could be mistaken, but the way I understood these policies from the SEC his academic issue, and resulting suspension from school, eliminates him from transferring to one of the SEC schools.

The SEC has a rule requiring Graduate transferees to have two years of eligibility remaining. Golson has but one left. The bylaw you are referring to is a list of criteria to be met in order to have the two year requirement waived. Golson would/should not be eligible for a waiver from the SEC. See (d.) below:

 

[252BAMA]

Wonder why the double standard here. As in restricting grad students with prior issues vs undergrad students with prior issues. Just thinking out loud. They could get caught with drugs, beat their significant other, beat up a fellow student, rob fellow students, and the list goes on... But can't plagiarize a paper and get in. (Not saying he plagiarized a paper or anything...)

Apparently it does not apply either to a Graduate transferee who has two years of eligibility left. :eyeroll: The bylaw was written to accommodate, or disallow, one with less than two years left.

 

[TerryP]

The SEC has a rule requiring Graduate transferees to have two years of eligibility remaining. Golson has but one left. The bylaw you are referring to is a list of criteria to be met in order to have the two year requirement waived. Golson would/should not be eligible for a waiver from the SEC. See (d.) below:

The original rule passed by the SEC did have that stipulation. The rule was amended/changed last spring (it's almost been a year now...I want to say the change was at the end of May.)

There are stipulations still in place though none include two years of eligibility. Among those requirements:

• Always stay eligible as an undergrad.
• They've made all their "points" on the APR scale.
• No disciplinary issues at old school.

Now, that said, there is still the option for schools to ask for a waiver.

With Golson, out of the three requirements listed above, he's already lost on two of them. He didn't remain eligible and he had disciplinary issues at Notre Dame when they kicked him off the team.

** I'll look it up later today if no one is able to find the report. What I do remember (off the top of my head, mind you) is that the meetings were covered by Jon Solomon just after he left his AL.com gig and took a job with CBSSports.com. I'm 99% sure he authored the report. I'm 98% sure it was published on CBS's site.

*** As a side note: You've seen, I'm betting, threads and reports about the possibility of Braxton Miller transferring. If you recall, he played three seasons at OSU after taking the starting QB job in 2011. He shirted in 2014 due to his injury which would make him a RS SR: one year of eligibility.

 

[bama alum]

Braxton Miller might be a band aid solution that will hurt our QB development for a while. That said, I'd still rather have him than Golson. One of the local talking heads last night said that either Jawja or USCe are Golson's likely destinations. If that's the case - because he's able to skirt the rule - I'd rather see him at USCe so they can have any advantage needed to beat UThug this season.

 

[planomateo]

I'd expect him to compete against Machine Gun Kelly at Ole Miss too.

Who needs Golson the turnover machine more is the bigger question.

 

[psychojoe]

Braxton Miller might be a band aid solution that will hurt our QB development for a while. That said, I'd still rather have him than Golson. One of the local talking heads last night said that either Jawja or USCe are Golson's likely destinations. If that's the case - because he's able to skirt the rule - I'd rather see him at USCe so they can have any advantage needed to beat UThug this season.

Would having Golson be an advantage..

 

[TerryP]

Braxton Miller might be a band aid solution that will hurt our QB development for a while.

I've seen a few people mention that as a concern mostly due to them thinking the guys further down the depth chart won't get as many reps.

However, consider this. It's not a lot different than Coker coming in last year (with the exception of him having two years of eligibility.) More importantly, the back-up QB that developed the most in the past year happened to be our fourth string guy last year at this time.

 

[bama alum]

Would having Golson be an advantage..

Cecil Hurt tweeted earlier that having Golson play for SOS would be the same as throwing ammonia on a diesel fire. Hmm, if that's the case, then I definitely would like to see him end up there...IF the SEC breaks its own rule, which I hope they don't.

I've seen a few people mention that as a concern mostly due to them thinking the guys further down the depth chart won't get as many reps.

However, consider this. It's not a lot different than Coker coming in last year (with the exception of him having two years of eligibility.) More importantly, the back-up QB that developed the most in the past year happened to be our fourth string guy last year at this time.

What concerns me is how many more 5* QBs are going to give Bama a second look when Saban keeps bringing transfers in to play.

 

[BamaFan334]

Cecil Hurt tweeted earlier that having Golson play for SOS would be the same as throwing ammonia on a diesel fire. Hmm, if that's the case, then I definitely would like to see him end up there...IF the SEC breaks its own rule, which I hope they don't.



What concerns me is how many more 5* QBs are going to give Bama a second look when Saban keeps bringing transfers in to play.

Since Coker didn't start last year there is no reason to count us out on the recruiting front. You have to compete. It is no different than signing a five star quarterback in back to back classes, and that is done time to time.

 

[252BAMA]

The original rule passed by the SEC did have that stipulation. The rule was amended/changed last spring (it's almost been a year now...I want to say the change was at the end of May.)

There are stipulations still in place though none include two years of eligibility. Among those requirements:

• Always stay eligible as an undergrad.
• They've made all their "points" on the APR scale.
• No disciplinary issues at old school.

Now, that said, there is still the option for schools to ask for a waiver.

With Golson, out of the three requirements listed above, he's already lost on two of them. He didn't remain eligible and he had disciplinary issues at Notre Dame when they kicked him off the team.

** I'll look it up later today if no one is able to find the report. What I do remember (off the top of my head, mind you) is that the meetings were covered by Jon Solomon just after he left his AL.com gig and took a job with CBSSports.com. I'm 99% sure he authored the report. I'm 98% sure it was published on CBS's site.

*** As a side note: You've seen, I'm betting, threads and reports about the possibility of Braxton Miller transferring. If you recall, he played three seasons at OSU after taking the starting QB job in 2011. He shirted in 2014 due to his injury which would make him a RS SR: one year of eligibility.

I believe you have that backward, and if you find the Solomon report you will see that is the case. The two year rule was put in because of Masoli. Note that the Bylaw (14.1.15.1), which sets the criteria to have the two year requirement waived, was just adopted on 5/30/2014. I think you have the rule confused with the Bylaw.

 

[TerryP]

I believe you have that backward, and if you find the Solomon report you will see that is the case. The two year rule was put in because of Masoli. Note that the Bylaw (14.1.15.1), which sets the criteria to have the two year requirement waived, was just adopted on 5/30/2014. I think you have the rule confused with the Bylaw.

http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/wri...s-ban-on-accepting-graduate-student-transfers

 

[252BAMA]

http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/wri...s-ban-on-accepting-graduate-student-transfers

Which confirms what I have been saying. The two years eligibility remaining requirement was not put in until after Masoli. The Bylaw setting up the criteria to get a waiver from that was adopted on 5/30/2014, the exact same day that Solomon wrote that report.

 

[TerryP]

Which confirms what I have been saying. The two years eligibility remaining requirement was put in after Masoli. The Bylaw setting up the criteria to get a waiver from that was adopted on 5/30/2014, the exact same day that Solomon wrote that report.

I know the ruling was passed due to Masoli. I suspect, based on something I've read somewhere, it's not enforced anymore (if it hasn't been rescinded.)

It's a pretty safe assumption, in my opinion, based on what we're seeing with Braxton Miller and Golson that it certainly isn't a concern. Between the two of them there's been contact with more than five SEC schools. Both players with one year of eligibility remaining.

I'm still very curious how this shakes out with EG. As mentioned, he's already "violated" two of the caveats that were instituted in the last meetings: academic impropriety and him not remaining eligible as an undergrad.

Assuming the two year clause is still fully intact and that requires a waiver, there's two more issues that would require a waiver as well.

Of note: I've not seen anyone mention the two year clause in any of the reports about both QB's transferring. Why?

 

[252BAMA]

I know the ruling was passed due to Masoli. I suspect, based on something I've read somewhere, it's not enforced anymore (if it hasn't been rescinded.)

It's a pretty safe assumption, in my opinion, based on what we're seeing with Braxton Miller and Golson that it certainly isn't a concern. Between the two of them there's been contact with more than five SEC schools. Both players with one year of eligibility remaining.

I'm still very curious how this shakes out with EG. As mentioned, he's already "violated" two of the caveats that were instituted in the last meetings: academic impropriety and him not remaining eligible as an undergrad.

Assuming the two year clause is still fully intact and that requires a waiver, there's two more issues that would require a waiver as well.

Of note: I've not seen anyone mention the two year clause in any of the reports about both QB's transferring. Why?

247Sports refers to the Bylaw, but not to the two years remaining requirement which is most specifically directed to by the Bylaw. The Bylaw begins thusly, "A student-athlete with less than two years of eligibility remaining......." If that was not still in place then why would the Bylaw have been adopted less than a year ago?

http://michigan.247sports.com/Bolt/Source-Two-schools-in-the-running-for-Golson--37163577