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[ChemE]

One of my good friends lives in Red Stick, and has his ear on the ground over there. He knows a guy who's connected into the program; and his analysis should cause some concern over there, I think.
* Predicting 6/7 wins
*No franchise RB
*No NFL receivers
*QB play "could" be at least as good as last year
*Veteran OL - strength of the team
*Typical strong D..
*Devon White could be the best LB in the country this fall
*Not going to score a lot of points, so if you can get ahead of them, game over
*The "wise ones" are very concerned about Coach O.
I'm sure CNS is ready to poach the state, and if things go like this guy thinks above, we could pillage the state once again. Works for me.

 

[Bamabww]

Works for me too. The doctor my wife worked for is connected to the LSU program as well and he's really worried about the the program.

 

[T&B]

I keep hearing Kiffin to LSU after this season is their goal. I think the shot callers are actually hoping O falls on his face to make the transition easier.

 

[TUSKtimes]

I'm sure CNS is ready to poach the state, and if things go like this guy thinks above, we could pillage the state once again. Works for me.

This is the one I'm hoping for. I hope O is competent enough with Aranda to keep their team on the upper side of the division. But the last OC hire and recruiting cycle might bring this show to a premature ending.

 

[Tidestalker]

Kiffin to LSU would be great for 1 reason - More incentive for Saban to stick around and beat his ass

 

[bama alum]

One of my good friends lives in Red Stick, and has his ear on the ground over there. He knows a guy who's connected into the program; and his analysis should cause some concern over there, I think.
* Predicting 6/7 wins
*No franchise RB
*No NFL receivers
*QB play "could" be at least as good as last year
*Veteran OL - strength of the team
*Typical strong D..
*Devon White could be the best LB in the country this fall
*Not going to score a lot of points, so if you can get ahead of them, game over
*The "wise ones" are very concerned about Coach O.
I'm sure CNS is ready to poach the state, and if things go like this guy thinks above, we could pillage the state once again. Works for me.

"Boy! That Haw Haw coach has a good team!"

 

[planomateo]

Not to mention Fisher poaching the state...

 

[jdpas29]

Unlikely Kiffin will be going to LSU imo

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Lsu....like Tennessee....screwed the pooch by not spending the money and getting an established HC....both schools have it....AnM showed them how its done..

 

[PhillyGirl]

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

LSU is one great coaching hire away from being back a the top much like Georgia. The talent in both states is elite. I hope the LSU BOT fails ...again

 

[RTB X Bot]

 

[ChemE]

From LSU Tigerdroppings:
The very last line is the best.
"I want O gone as much as anyone. But I refuse to dump all of this schit going on with the program in his lap.
Regardless of what you believe, the program was beginning to circle the drain a year or two before O got here.
The admin that hired O has been in place for years now. They are incompetent. They hired O...therefore they get the lion's share of the blame. He didn't hire his own dumb self.
Now he hasn't really done schit to improve things yet...but let's not act for one moment like we were flying high before Dumb-O.
We were averaging 4 losses a year from 14-16 (3 in the two previous years...not exactly elite). Our SEC Record: 14-10.....nothing to write home about either. That's mostly on Miles.
I'm not saying O was dealt a schitty hand to play by any means.....but we wasn't given a royal flush either.
Miles was slipping....not only on the field but recruiting too. He wasn't locking up this state at all. Saban was frequently poaching quality players out of LA...as were other SEC coaches...players we should have been locking up. And say what you want about the ranking of Miles' classes his last few years....it wasn't translating on the field in terms of hardware.
He brought in a Purdue reject to guide the team for god's sakes.
His constant meddling with the O put Aranda in an untenable position frequently.
Juniors kept leaving by the droves (still wonder why that always was with Miles) My question...how do other lesser programs get their juniors to stay?
We have struggled at the QB position for YEARS. You're not going to win championships with a marginal signal caller who can't throw under pressure when he HAS to. DE was not the answer. This problem coupled with the one-dimensional nature of our offense cost us games.
So we've basically had average coaching since the 2014 season.
Something got broken in the program after 1/9...and its yet to be fixed."

 

[JoshB]

From LSU Tigerdroppings:
The very last line is the best.
"I want O gone as much as anyone. But I refuse to dump all of this schit going on with the program in his lap.
Regardless of what you believe, the program was beginning to circle the drain a year or two before O got here.
The admin that hired O has been in place for years now. They are incompetent. They hired O...therefore they get the lion's share of the blame. He didn't hire his own dumb self.
Now he hasn't really done schit to improve things yet...but let's not act for one moment like we were flying high before Dumb-O.
We were averaging 4 losses a year from 14-16 (3 in the two previous years...not exactly elite). Our SEC Record: 14-10.....nothing to write home about either. That's mostly on Miles.
I'm not saying O was dealt a schitty hand to play by any means.....but we wasn't given a royal flush either.
Miles was slipping....not only on the field but recruiting too. He wasn't locking up this state at all. Saban was frequently poaching quality players out of LA...as were other SEC coaches...players we should have been locking up. And say what you want about the ranking of Miles' classes his last few years....it wasn't translating on the field in terms of hardware.
He brought in a Purdue reject to guide the team for god's sakes.
His constant meddling with the O put Aranda in an untenable position frequently.
Juniors kept leaving by the droves (still wonder why that always was with Miles) My question...how do other lesser programs get their juniors to stay?
We have struggled at the QB position for YEARS. You're not going to win championships with a marginal signal caller who can't throw under pressure when he HAS to. DE was not the answer. This problem coupled with the one-dimensional nature of our offense cost us games.
So we've basically had average coaching since the 2014 season.
Something got broken in the program after 1/9...and its yet to be fixed."

Processed.

 

[TerryP]

Something got broken in the program after 1/9...and its yet to be fixed."

From LSU Tigerdroppings:
The very last line is the best.
"I want O gone as much as anyone. But I refuse to dump all of this schit going on with the program in his lap.
Regardless of what you believe, the program was beginning to circle the drain a year or two before O got here.
The admin that hired O has been in place for years now. They are incompetent. They hired O...therefore they get the lion's share of the blame. He didn't hire his own dumb self.
Now he hasn't really done schit to improve things yet...but let's not act for one moment like we were flying high before Dumb-O.
We were averaging 4 losses a year from 14-16 (3 in the two previous years...not exactly elite). Our SEC Record: 14-10.....nothing to write home about either. That's mostly on Miles.
I'm not saying O was dealt a schitty hand to play by any means.....but we wasn't given a royal flush either.
Miles was slipping....not only on the field but recruiting too. He wasn't locking up this state at all. Saban was frequently poaching quality players out of LA...as were other SEC coaches...players we should have been locking up. And say what you want about the ranking of Miles' classes his last few years....it wasn't translating on the field in terms of hardware.
He brought in a Purdue reject to guide the team for god's sakes.
His constant meddling with the O put Aranda in an untenable position frequently.
Juniors kept leaving by the droves (still wonder why that always was with Miles) My question...how do other lesser programs get their juniors to stay?
We have struggled at the QB position for YEARS. You're not going to win championships with a marginal signal caller who can't throw under pressure when he HAS to. DE was not the answer. This problem coupled with the one-dimensional nature of our offense cost us games.
So we've basically had average coaching since the 2014 season.
Something got broken in the program after 1/9...and its yet to be fixed."

Processed.

I liked Guilbeau's last comment in his piece linked earlier to fully describe the situation LSU football is currently in:

"When was the last time at LSU that an 8-4 season would be seen as a success?"

I'd look it up but don't have the time this morning. I'm left with this question. Is 8-4 pretty well the norm for this program, historically? It's not under Saban/Miles. How about before those two were in BR?

It's also telling (state of the program) when you read that line by Guilbeau...in 2008, the 8-4 season was considered an extreme disappointment but now it's a mark of success.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

I have always said...LSU and UGA are the most underachieving programs.....
Basically have a talent rich state locked up.....and doesn’t translate to championships onthe field.....
UGA is about to change.....LSU is stuck in the mud..

 

[TUSKtimes]

I have always said...LSU and UGA are the most underachieving programs.....
Basically have a talent rich state locked up.....and doesn’t translate to championships onthe field.....
UGA is about to change.....LSU is stuck in the mud..

I hope we don't have to add Texas A&M to the list.

 

[JoshB]

Something got broken in the program after 1/9...and its yet to be fixed."

From LSU Tigerdroppings:
The very last line is the best.
"I want O gone as much as anyone. But I refuse to dump all of this schit going on with the program in his lap.
Regardless of what you believe, the program was beginning to circle the drain a year or two before O got here.
The admin that hired O has been in place for years now. They are incompetent. They hired O...therefore they get the lion's share of the blame. He didn't hire his own dumb self.
Now he hasn't really done schit to improve things yet...but let's not act for one moment like we were flying high before Dumb-O.
We were averaging 4 losses a year from 14-16 (3 in the two previous years...not exactly elite). Our SEC Record: 14-10.....nothing to write home about either. That's mostly on Miles.
I'm not saying O was dealt a schitty hand to play by any means.....but we wasn't given a royal flush either.
Miles was slipping....not only on the field but recruiting too. He wasn't locking up this state at all. Saban was frequently poaching quality players out of LA...as were other SEC coaches...players we should have been locking up. And say what you want about the ranking of Miles' classes his last few years....it wasn't translating on the field in terms of hardware.
He brought in a Purdue reject to guide the team for god's sakes.
His constant meddling with the O put Aranda in an untenable position frequently.
Juniors kept leaving by the droves (still wonder why that always was with Miles) My question...how do other lesser programs get their juniors to stay?
We have struggled at the QB position for YEARS. You're not going to win championships with a marginal signal caller who can't throw under pressure when he HAS to. DE was not the answer. This problem coupled with the one-dimensional nature of our offense cost us games.
So we've basically had average coaching since the 2014 season.
Something got broken in the program after 1/9...and its yet to be fixed."

Processed.

I liked Guilbeau's last comment in his piece linked earlier to fully describe the situation LSU football is currently in:

"When was the last time at LSU that an 8-4 season would be seen as a success?"

I'd look it up but don't have the time this morning. I'm left with this question. Is 8-4 pretty well the norm for this program, historically? It's not under Saban/Miles. How about before those two were in BR?

It's also telling (state of the program) when you read that line by Guilbeau...in 2008, the 8-4 season was considered an extreme disappointment but now it's a mark of success.

I’m only going to go back to 60s on this but…



Charles McClendon Era (1962-1979)

1962: 9-1-1 (win Cotton Bowl)

1963: 7-4 (lose Bluebonnet Bowl)

1964: 8-2-1 (win Sugar Bowl)

1965: 8-3 (win Cotton Bowl)

1966: 5-4-1 (no bowl)

1967: 7-3-1 (win Sugar Bowl)

1968: 8-3 (win Peach Bowl)

1969: 9-1 (no bowl) weird drama that led to them not going to a bowl

1970: 9-3 (lost Orange Bowl) SEC CHampion

1971: 9-3 (won Sun Bowl)

1972: 9-2-1 (lost Bluebonnet Bowl)

1973: 9-3 (lost Orange Bowl)

1974: 5-5-1 (no bowl)

1975: 4-7 (no bowl)

1976: 6-4-1 (no bowl)

1977: 8-4 (lost Sun Bowl)

1978: 8-4 (lost Liberty Bowl)

1979: 7-5 (won Tangerine Bowl)

Totals: 135-61-7 in 18 years, 7-6 in bowl games, highest end of season ranking: No. 7 in 1962, 1964 and 1970. Lost four straight bowl games between 1972 and 1978. 1 SEC Championship.



Jerry Stovall Era (1980-1983)

1980: 7-4 (no bowl)

1981: 3-7-1 (no bowl)

1982: 8-3-1 (lost Orange Bowl)

1983: 4-7 (no bowl)

Totals: 22-21-2 in four years, 0-1 in bowl games. Highest end of season ranking: no. 11 in 1982.



Bill Arnsparger Era (1984-1986)

1984: 8-3-1 (lost Sugar Bowl)

1985: 9-2-1 (lost Libert Bowl)

1986: 9-3 (lost Sugar Bowl) SEC Champion

Totals: 26-8-2 in three years, 0-3 in bowl games. Highest end of season ranking: No. 10 in 1986. 1 SEC Championship.



Mike Archer Era (1987-1990)

1987: 10-1-1 (won Gator Bowl)

1988: 8-4 (lost Hall of Fame Bowl) SEC Co-Champion

1989: 4-7 (no bowl)

1990: 5-6 (no bowl)

Totals: 27-18 in four years, 1-1 bowl games. Highest end of season ranking: No. 5 in 1987. 1 SEC Championship.



Curley Hallman Era (1991-1994)

1991: 5-6 (no bowl)

1992: 2-9 (no bowl)

1993: 5-6 (no bowl)

1994: 4-7 (no bowl)

Totals: 16-28 in four years, no bowl appearances. Never ranked in Top 25 at any point.



Gerry DiNardo Era (1995-1999)

1995: 7-4-1 (won Independence Bowl)

1996: 10-2 (won Peach Bowl)

1997: 9-3 (won Independence Bowl)

1998: 4-7 (no bowl)

1999: 3-8 (no bowl)

Totals: 33-24 in five years, 3-0 in bowl games. Highest end of season ranking: No. 12 in 1996.



Nick Saban Era (2000-2004)

2000: 8-4 (won Peach Bowl)

2001: 10-3 (won Sugar Bowl) SEC Champion

2002: 8-5 (lost Cotton Bowl)

2003: 13-1 (won Sugar Bowl and National Championship) SEC Champion

2004: 9-3 (lost Capital One Bowl)

Totals: 48-16 in five years, 3-2 in bowl games. Highest end of season ranking: No. 1 in 2003. 2 SEC Championships, 1 National Championship.



Les Miles Era (2005-2016)

2005: 11-2 (won Peach Bowl)

2006: 11-2 (won Sugar Bowl)

2007: 12-2 (won BCS Championship) SEC Champion

2008: 8-5 (won Chick-Fil-A Bowl)

2009: 9-4 (lost Capital One Bowl)

2010: 11-2 (won Cotton Bowl)

2011: 13-1 (lost BCS Championship) SEC Champion

2012: 10-3 (lost Chick-Fil-A Bowl)

2013: 10-3 (won Outback Bowl)

2014: 8-5 (lost Music City Bowl)

2015: 9-3 (won Texas Bowl)

2016: 2-2 (fired mid-season)

Totals: 114-34 in 12 years, 8-4 in bowl games. Highest end of season ranking: No. 1 in 2007. 2 SEC Championships, 1 National Championship.



Hee-Haw Era (2016-current)

2016: 6-2 (won Citrus Bowl)

2017: 9-4 (lost Citrus Bowl)

Totals: 15-6 in 1 ½ seasons, 1-1 in bowl games. Highest end of season ranking: No. 13 in 2016.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Something got broken in the program after 1/9...and its yet to be fixed."

From LSU Tigerdroppings:
The very last line is the best.
"I want O gone as much as anyone. But I refuse to dump all of this schit going on with the program in his lap.
Regardless of what you believe, the program was beginning to circle the drain a year or two before O got here.
The admin that hired O has been in place for years now. They are incompetent. They hired O...therefore they get the lion's share of the blame. He didn't hire his own dumb self.
Now he hasn't really done schit to improve things yet...but let's not act for one moment like we were flying high before Dumb-O.
We were averaging 4 losses a year from 14-16 (3 in the two previous years...not exactly elite). Our SEC Record: 14-10.....nothing to write home about either. That's mostly on Miles.
I'm not saying O was dealt a schitty hand to play by any means.....but we wasn't given a royal flush either.
Miles was slipping....not only on the field but recruiting too. He wasn't locking up this state at all. Saban was frequently poaching quality players out of LA...as were other SEC coaches...players we should have been locking up. And say what you want about the ranking of Miles' classes his last few years....it wasn't translating on the field in terms of hardware.
He brought in a Purdue reject to guide the team for god's sakes.
His constant meddling with the O put Aranda in an untenable position frequently.
Juniors kept leaving by the droves (still wonder why that always was with Miles) My question...how do other lesser programs get their juniors to stay?
We have struggled at the QB position for YEARS. You're not going to win championships with a marginal signal caller who can't throw under pressure when he HAS to. DE was not the answer. This problem coupled with the one-dimensional nature of our offense cost us games.
So we've basically had average coaching since the 2014 season.
Something got broken in the program after 1/9...and its yet to be fixed."

Processed.

I liked Guilbeau's last comment in his piece linked earlier to fully describe the situation LSU football is currently in:

"When was the last time at LSU that an 8-4 season would be seen as a success?"

I'd look it up but don't have the time this morning. I'm left with this question. Is 8-4 pretty well the norm for this program, historically? It's not under Saban/Miles. How about before those two were in BR?

It's also telling (state of the program) when you read that line by Guilbeau...in 2008, the 8-4 season was considered an extreme disappointment but now it's a mark of success.

I’m only going to go back to 60s on this but…



Charles McClendon Era (1962-1979)

1962: 9-1-1 (win Cotton Bowl)

1963: 7-4 (lose Bluebonnet Bowl)

1964: 8-2-1 (win Sugar Bowl)

1965: 8-3 (win Cotton Bowl)

1966: 5-4-1 (no bowl)

1967: 7-3-1 (win Sugar Bowl)

1968: 8-3 (win Peach Bowl)

1969: 9-1 (no bowl) weird drama that led to them not going to a bowl

1970: 9-3 (lost Orange Bowl) SEC CHampion

1971: 9-3 (won Sun Bowl)

1972: 9-2-1 (lost Bluebonnet Bowl)

1973: 9-3 (lost Orange Bowl)

1974: 5-5-1 (no bowl)

1975: 4-7 (no bowl)

1976: 6-4-1 (no bowl)

1977: 8-4 (lost Sun Bowl)

1978: 8-4 (lost Liberty Bowl)

1979: 7-5 (won Tangerine Bowl)

Totals: 135-61-7 in 18 years, 7-6 in bowl games, highest end of season ranking: No. 7 in 1962, 1964 and 1970. Lost four straight bowl games between 1972 and 1978. 1 SEC Championship.



Jerry Stovall Era (1980-1983)

1980: 7-4 (no bowl)

1981: 3-7-1 (no bowl)

1982: 8-3-1 (lost Orange Bowl)

1983: 4-7 (no bowl)

Totals: 22-21-2 in four years, 0-1 in bowl games. Highest end of season ranking: no. 11 in 1982.



Bill Arnsparger Era (1984-1986)

1984: 8-3-1 (lost Sugar Bowl)

1985: 9-2-1 (lost Libert Bowl)

1986: 9-3 (lost Sugar Bowl) SEC Champion

Totals: 26-8-2 in three years, 0-3 in bowl games. Highest end of season ranking: No. 10 in 1986. 1 SEC Championship.



Mike Archer Era (1987-1990)

1987: 10-1-1 (won Gator Bowl)

1988: 8-4 (lost Hall of Fame Bowl) SEC Co-Champion

1989: 4-7 (no bowl)

1990: 5-6 (no bowl)

Totals: 27-18 in four years, 1-1 bowl games. Highest end of season ranking: No. 5 in 1987. 1 SEC Championship.



Curley Hallman Era (1991-1994)

1991: 5-6 (no bowl)

1992: 2-9 (no bowl)

1993: 5-6 (no bowl)

1994: 4-7 (no bowl)

Totals: 16-28 in four years, no bowl appearances. Never ranked in Top 25 at any point.



Gerry DiNardo Era (1995-1999)

1995: 7-4-1 (won Independence Bowl)

1996: 10-2 (won Peach Bowl)

1997: 9-3 (won Independence Bowl)

1998: 4-7 (no bowl)

1999: 3-8 (no bowl)

Totals: 33-24 in five years, 3-0 in bowl games. Highest end of season ranking: No. 12 in 1996.



Nick Saban Era (2000-2004)

2000: 8-4 (won Peach Bowl)

2001: 10-3 (won Sugar Bowl) SEC Champion

2002: 8-5 (lost Cotton Bowl)

2003: 13-1 (won Sugar Bowl and National Championship) SEC Champion

2004: 9-3 (lost Capital One Bowl)

Totals: 48-16 in five years, 3-2 in bowl games. Highest end of season ranking: No. 1 in 2003. 2 SEC Championships, 1 National Championship.



Les Miles Era (2005-2016)

2005: 11-2 (won Peach Bowl)

2006: 11-2 (won Sugar Bowl)

2007: 12-2 (won BCS Championship) SEC Champion

2008: 8-5 (won Chick-Fil-A Bowl)

2009: 9-4 (lost Capital One Bowl)

2010: 11-2 (won Cotton Bowl)

2011: 13-1 (lost BCS Championship) SEC Champion

2012: 10-3 (lost Chick-Fil-A Bowl)

2013: 10-3 (won Outback Bowl)

2014: 8-5 (lost Music City Bowl)

2015: 9-3 (won Texas Bowl)

2016: 2-2 (fired mid-season)

Totals: 114-34 in 12 years, 8-4 in bowl games. Highest end of season ranking: No. 1 in 2007. 2 SEC Championships, 1 National Championship.



Hee-Haw Era (2016-current)

2016: 6-2 (won Citrus Bowl)

2017: 9-4 (lost Citrus Bowl)

Totals: 15-6 in 1 ½ seasons, 1-1 in bowl games. Highest end of season ranking: No. 13 in 2016.

Thats a lot of research. Good job

 

[TUSKtimes]

Cholly Mac's Tigers always put on a great show with guys like Charles Alexander, Cassanova, Bert Jones, those teams always had great talent on it. It was just hard for him to beat the Bear. They were still plenty scary.