📝 Nadeb Joseph (Bama commit that flipped to UGA on ESD) headed to JUCO

[BAMANEWSBOT]

Nadab Joseph, a key UGA signee in the Class of 2018, has enrolled at Independence (Kan.) Community College.

DawgNation was told that on Monday morning by Joseph’s mentor, Victor Evans. Joseph is set to start classes Monday.

“We’re doing summer enrollment to try and get out as fast as possible,” Evans told DawgNation.

A second source also confirmed the transfer. He is expected to spend 18 months at Independence in order to qualify.

Evans, who has meant a great deal to Joseph growing up, said Joseph still plans to sign with UGA coming out of Independence.

The 4-star safety flipped from Alabama to UGA when he signed during the early period on Dec. 20.

Joseph was homeschooled early in his high school career and also had to transfer several times. Evans said that the prospect will definitely spend at least the 2018 season at the junior college level.

The South Florida football coach has been a long-time mentor to Joseph coming up while serving in different roles at various high schools.

“Depends on how many courses he can get done,” said Evans in regard to the timeline to return to major college football. “In a realistic side of things (he can qualify in) probably 18 months.”

Evans said the hope remains that he can enroll at UGA next fall, if at all possible.

“He knows he has some work to do but he’s ready to start,” Evans said. “He’s ready to get out there and compete and do what he has to do to get to UGA as soon as possible.”

The 6-foot-1.5, 180-pound prospect rates as the nation’s No. 18 cornerback prospect for 2018 on the 247Sports composite. He was seen as the nation’s No. 180 overall prospect for this past cycle.

In the event that he qualified, Joseph was expected to contend for a spot in the two-deep at safety this fall at UGA.

He becomes the second member of the nation’s top-ranked signing class that was unable to join the Bulldogs out of high school. Tramel Walthour, a 3-star DT from Liberty County in Hinesville, will also be at a junior college program this fall.

Joseph was the 16th-highest rated prospect out of the 26 recruits that the Bulldogs signed in 2018.

BREAKING: 4-star UGA signee Nadab Joseph enrolls in junior college

 

[Tidestalker]

Between the homeschooling, followed by multiple transfers, followed by his "mentor" referring to Joseph as "we", followed by the flip.... Good luck Kirby. lol

 

[OldPlayer]

JUCO isn't like prep school. Doesn't he have to graduate from JUCO in order to go anywhere else? If he went to prep school, he'd just have to bring his GPA up.

 

[BamaFan334]

I hate hearing a guy can't qualify, especially when it appears they grew up rough. Wondering if the home schooling and transfers messed up his ability to get the work done and just his educational abilities in general? Hopefully he can get it figured out and benefit educationally as well as athletically.

I've never understood the whole two year JUCO deal, because you can transfer to a school like Alabama and Georgia with only 30 hours as long as you take the English, Math, Science, and other general pre-requisite classes, and have the GPA. The only thing that can hinder that transfer for a normal student is the deadline for which transfers have to apply, which can in turn make it nearly impossible for the average Fall enrollee. If he starts this Summer, takes a full load Fall and Spring, he will get the benefit of the doubt and allowed to apply as late as the first day of Fall 2019 classes, making it possible. This is just my assessment after dealing with transferring during my college career and helping my younger sister do the same, so it could be different for these guys, such as the deadline, but I think it's possible for him if he in fact can get the work done.

 

[TerryP]

I've never understood the whole two year JUCO deal, because you can transfer to a school like Alabama and Georgia with only 30 hours as long as you take the English, Math, Science, and other general pre-requisite classes, and have the GPA.

For reference sake:

SEC official explains origin of rare rule that restricts JUCO recruiting

 

[TerryP]

 

[kbama15]

Good luck to the kid! But, karma is a bitch!

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

Kirby knew the kid wasn't going to qualify before he allowed him to sign but he wanted the positive PR from taking something from Alabama. It appears Kirby has as much auburn in him as UGA since that is the same plan the cow college follows.

 

[Tidestalker]

I hate hearing a guy can't qualify, especially when it appears they grew up rough. Wondering if the home schooling and transfers messed up his ability to get the work done and just his educational abilities in general? Hopefully he can get it figured out and benefit educationally as well as athletically.

I've never understood the whole two year JUCO deal, because you can transfer to a school like Alabama and Georgia with only 30 hours as long as you take the English, Math, Science, and other general pre-requisite classes, and have the GPA. The only thing that can hinder that transfer for a normal student is the deadline for which transfers have to apply, which can in turn make it nearly impossible for the average Fall enrollee. If he starts this Summer, takes a full load Fall and Spring, he will get the benefit of the doubt and allowed to apply as late as the first day of Fall 2019 classes, making it possible. This is just my assessment after dealing with transferring during my college career and helping my younger sister do the same, so it could be different for these guys, such as the deadline, but I think it's possible for him if he in fact can get the work done.

Generally I'm very sympathetic to the HS recruits and even college players when it comes to "the system"...

But I have little to no sympathy for kids that can't get it done in the high school classroom. Passing high school classes is literally as easy as showing up and not being an ass hole all the time. The kid can even be an a-hole some of the time and teachers will still try to help them get where they want to go. You have to try to not pass high school classes this day in age... Blows my mind how unmotivated these kids can be despite having a school like Georgia waiting on them.

 

[BamaFan334]

I hate hearing a guy can't qualify, especially when it appears they grew up rough. Wondering if the home schooling and transfers messed up his ability to get the work done and just his educational abilities in general? Hopefully he can get it figured out and benefit educationally as well as athletically.

I've never understood the whole two year JUCO deal, because you can transfer to a school like Alabama and Georgia with only 30 hours as long as you take the English, Math, Science, and other general pre-requisite classes, and have the GPA. The only thing that can hinder that transfer for a normal student is the deadline for which transfers have to apply, which can in turn make it nearly impossible for the average Fall enrollee. If he starts this Summer, takes a full load Fall and Spring, he will get the benefit of the doubt and allowed to apply as late as the first day of Fall 2019 classes, making it possible. This is just my assessment after dealing with transferring during my college career and helping my younger sister do the same, so it could be different for these guys, such as the deadline, but I think it's possible for him if he in fact can get the work done.

Generally I'm very sympathetic to the HS recruits and even college players when it comes to "the system"...

But I have little to no sympathy for kids that can't get it done in the high school classroom. Passing high school classes is literally as easy as showing up and not being an ass hole all the time. The kid can even be an a-hole some of the time and teachers will still try to help them get where they want to go. You have to try to not pass high school classes this day in age... Blows my mind how unmotivated these kids can be despite having a school like Georgia waiting on them.

I am sympathetic if he was lacking due to the home schooling and having to transfer. A lot of the times too, these schools and councelors are dumber than the students they try to direct. That's all I was saying. If in fact he is at fault, I have no sympathy.

 

[Tidestalker]

I hate hearing a guy can't qualify, especially when it appears they grew up rough. Wondering if the home schooling and transfers messed up his ability to get the work done and just his educational abilities in general? Hopefully he can get it figured out and benefit educationally as well as athletically.

I've never understood the whole two year JUCO deal, because you can transfer to a school like Alabama and Georgia with only 30 hours as long as you take the English, Math, Science, and other general pre-requisite classes, and have the GPA. The only thing that can hinder that transfer for a normal student is the deadline for which transfers have to apply, which can in turn make it nearly impossible for the average Fall enrollee. If he starts this Summer, takes a full load Fall and Spring, he will get the benefit of the doubt and allowed to apply as late as the first day of Fall 2019 classes, making it possible. This is just my assessment after dealing with transferring during my college career and helping my younger sister do the same, so it could be different for these guys, such as the deadline, but I think it's possible for him if he in fact can get the work done.

Generally I'm very sympathetic to the HS recruits and even college players when it comes to "the system"...

But I have little to no sympathy for kids that can't get it done in the high school classroom. Passing high school classes is literally as easy as showing up and not being an ass hole all the time. The kid can even be an a-hole some of the time and teachers will still try to help them get where they want to go. You have to try to not pass high school classes this day in age... Blows my mind how unmotivated these kids can be despite having a school like Georgia waiting on them.

I am sympathetic if he was lacking due to the home schooling and having to transfer. A lot of the times too, these schools and councelors are dumber than the students they try to direct. That's all I was saying. If in fact he is at fault, I have no sympathy.

Truth there for sure... Makes sense! RTR

 

[TerryP]

I am sympathetic if he was lacking due to the home schooling and having to transfer.

I've been associated with groups that homeschool their children and it's been a choice made by the parents. From what I've been able to tell, it's more expensive than public schooling. I can't escape the fact it was a choice made which leads me to believe the fault lies where it should. They made a choice and it was a bad one.

 

[BamaFan334]

I am sympathetic if he was lacking due to the home schooling and having to transfer.

I've been associated with groups that homeschool their children and it's been a choice made by the parents. From what I've been able to tell, it's more expensive than public schooling. I can't escape the fact it was a choice made which leads me to believe the fault lies where it should. They made a choice and it was a bad one.

It is definitely more expensive. We home schooled our oldest for Kindergarten due to the schools around being bad, and it was tough for my wife. Our daughter was behind on her reading cause we had trouble finding the way she needed to learn how, but luckily when we moved and she went to 1st grade public school she had an amazing teacher that got it to click and she caught up and even got ahead of their goals for her. So I can see both sides of the spectrum. Of course, I imagine getting home school off the ground at a young age is tougher than say middle and high school simply for preparation and the kids learning how to study, understand, and learn.

 

[PurlJam]

Generally I'm very sympathetic to the HS recruits and even college players when it comes to "the system"...

But I have little to no sympathy for kids that can't get it done in the high school classroom. Passing high school classes is literally as easy as showing up and not being an ass hole all the time. The kid can even be an a-hole some of the time and teachers will still try to help them get where they want to go. You have to try to not pass high school classes this day in age... Blows my mind how unmotivated these kids can be despite having a school like Georgia waiting on them.

Damn straight its easy... I like the 12th grade so much, I went back 3 times. :devil:

 

[TUSKtimes]

A lot of homeschooling comes down to the application and situation of the parents, Tebow was homeschooled and he didn't have much trouble going where he wanted. I have 3 nieces that were homeschooled and they all graduated at 16 and started college. I wasn't a big advocate of that at the time because of the social change taking place with youngsters but they did well and since then I've heard it's not that uncommon. Many poor school systems these days makes this a viable option.

 

[BamaFan334]

A lot of homeschooling comes down to the application and situation of the parents, Tebow was homeschooled and he didn't have much trouble going where he wanted. I have 3 nieces that were homeschooled and they all graduated at 16 and started college. I wasn't a big advocate of that at the time because of the social change taking place with youngsters but they did well and since then I've heard it's not that uncommon. Many poor school systems these days makes this a viable option.

Everyone I know that has home schooled has thrived and done well once their kids adjust. They all say it is difficult when you start out due to molding your children's ability to learn and creating an environment they don't associate with playing at home like they are used to for four-five years beforehand. Every other kid I know has graduated high school early as well and has done great things in college. The social aspect as you brought up has changed dramatically in the last ten years as their are sports teams, dances, events, and a lot of other things to bring others alike together. Definitely a lot of perks to it if you're able to swing it as a family. I trust my wife more than I trust a public school education these days, and we were both public school folks.