planomateo
Member
I didn't see them losing to LSU or Tennessee at home. Figured they'd lose 4 of the away games plus the Washington game.
| FTBL More Aub misery from Marshall (JG Tate saying Gus or Leath gone by 12/1)
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I didn't see them losing to LSU or Tennessee at home. Figured they'd lose 4 of the away games plus the Washington game.
JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
Member
I had them losing to Bama and UGA and that was it....that tells you what I know ....they better have their shet wired tight this Saturday or Ole Miss will give them fits on offense anyway.
This is the funniest shit I've been able to witness in at least the last 8-9 years.
At the barn they throw money at you like candy for mediocrity. Someone will line up to take the dysfunctional cults money. Gus bus will be laughing all the way to the bank when they fire him.
TerryP
Staff
This one is from Mike Marshall, not Phillip. Phillip has his own piece out saying Auburn should be 7-0.
TerryP
Staff
Here's one from Phillip ...
The hard truth is that Auburn’s football team should be 7-0 today. It has more talent than Mississippi State and much more talent than Tennessee. It had LSU beat at home. Coming up empty against those three teams is difficult to grasp for a team that started the season in the Top 10 and beat another Top 10 team in the season-opener.
Saturday’s 30-24 loss to Tennessee was, in my opinion, the worst and most deflating in Gus Malzahn’s tenure at Auburn, now in its sixth season. I don’t believe Malzahn would dispute that. You could hear it in his voice after the game.
Auburn football – the team and the program - are left in a perilous place. Where does it go from here? That’s what people who run the show have to figure out. They’ll, no doubt, hear some strong opinions from those who donate the big money.
The rest of this season doesn’t look promising with games at Ole Miss, against Texas A&M and Liberty at home and at Georgia and Alabama. That is not what matters most at this point. What matters is where Auburn football is going as a program.
I’ve written many times here that I don’t call for people to lose their jobs, and I’m not doing that now. I’m also not going to ignore the gorilla in the room. From the wealthy folks in the suites high above Jordan-Hare Stadium to those at home watching on TV, there is great angst among Auburn people. And most of it is directed at head coach Gus Malzahn.
Yet, this is no ordinary decision about a coach’s future. It would cost $31 million to fire Malzahn, half of it payable in 30 days and half of it over four years. That doesn’t include what it would cost to buy out his staff.
Would it be worth it to make a change? Malzahn’s body of work is filled with great moments and awful ones. Do an SEC championship, another division championships and wins over No. 1 teams predict the future or do inconsistency and games like Saturday night and too many others like it predict the future?
Malzahn will, no doubt, be asked at the end of the season if not sooner about his plan to fix what ails his program. It certainly would give a lot of people serious heartburn to pay someone $31 million to leave. It’s a tough spot for Auburn and president Steven Leath, who negotiated the contract last December.
That Auburn is sitting between Alabama and Georgia has been oft-discussed. But it’s more than that. The other SEC programs with resources to excel – Florida, LSU, Texas A&M and maybe even Tennessee and South Carolina – are committed and on an upward track. Auburn seemed to be on that track last season, but it has reversed course.
Whatever decision is made, it had best be made with some serious insight and based only on what is best for Auburn football’s future. To fail to do that would be the most expensive mistake of all and could leave Auburn wandering in the college football wilderness for years to come.
***
How can a team run 80 plays to the opponent’s 68, give up just 68 yards rushing, have 10 tackles for loss, gain 448 yards on offense and still lose?
Turn the ball over three times with two leading to touchdowns, force no turnovers, give up 10-of-19 third-down conversions and give up six pass completions of 25 yards or more. That’s how Auburn did it on Saturday.
One of the stranger stats in the game was that, despite running 12 fewer plays, Tennessee dominated the time of possession 34:01 to 25:59.
***
It has to be of great concern that this Auburn football team, instead of improving over the course of the season, has gone in the other direction. The outfit that lost to Tennessee bore little resemblance to the one that beat Washington or even the one that lost to LSU on a walkoff field goal.
It’s been a very puzzling season, to be sure.
***
Tennessee has some good players, but not enough. It made some good plays, but they shouldn’t have been enough. The Vols have a long way to go to be a good team, but they deserve credit. They came to play and they gave head coach Jeremy Pruitt his first SEC win.
***
For all the other questions about Auburn’s offense, the line remains the biggest issue. Quarterback Jarrett Stidham doesn’t get a pass for two interceptions and a fumble, but he was under serious duress on all three plays.
***
Freshman receiver Anthony Schwartz looks like one of the more explosive players to show up at Auburn in a long time. Why did he get just one pass thrown to him after his 76-yarder for a touchdown? I don’t know, but it sure seems like he ought to be touching the ball more often in every game.
***
Isn’t it time for people to stop laughing at Coach O? And at offensive coordinator Steve Ensminger, for that matter. LSU dominated Georgia from start to finish Saturday in Baton Rouge. The 36-16 romp was reminiscent of Auburn’s 40-17 victory over the Bulldogs last season.
Alabama also must go to Tiger Stadium. It will be interesting to see if LSU can mount a challenge to the Tide.
Until next time …
The hard truth is that Auburn’s football team should be 7-0 today. It has more talent than Mississippi State and much more talent than Tennessee. It had LSU beat at home. Coming up empty against those three teams is difficult to grasp for a team that started the season in the Top 10 and beat another Top 10 team in the season-opener.
Saturday’s 30-24 loss to Tennessee was, in my opinion, the worst and most deflating in Gus Malzahn’s tenure at Auburn, now in its sixth season. I don’t believe Malzahn would dispute that. You could hear it in his voice after the game.
Auburn football – the team and the program - are left in a perilous place. Where does it go from here? That’s what people who run the show have to figure out. They’ll, no doubt, hear some strong opinions from those who donate the big money.
The rest of this season doesn’t look promising with games at Ole Miss, against Texas A&M and Liberty at home and at Georgia and Alabama. That is not what matters most at this point. What matters is where Auburn football is going as a program.
I’ve written many times here that I don’t call for people to lose their jobs, and I’m not doing that now. I’m also not going to ignore the gorilla in the room. From the wealthy folks in the suites high above Jordan-Hare Stadium to those at home watching on TV, there is great angst among Auburn people. And most of it is directed at head coach Gus Malzahn.
Yet, this is no ordinary decision about a coach’s future. It would cost $31 million to fire Malzahn, half of it payable in 30 days and half of it over four years. That doesn’t include what it would cost to buy out his staff.
Would it be worth it to make a change? Malzahn’s body of work is filled with great moments and awful ones. Do an SEC championship, another division championships and wins over No. 1 teams predict the future or do inconsistency and games like Saturday night and too many others like it predict the future?
Malzahn will, no doubt, be asked at the end of the season if not sooner about his plan to fix what ails his program. It certainly would give a lot of people serious heartburn to pay someone $31 million to leave. It’s a tough spot for Auburn and president Steven Leath, who negotiated the contract last December.
That Auburn is sitting between Alabama and Georgia has been oft-discussed. But it’s more than that. The other SEC programs with resources to excel – Florida, LSU, Texas A&M and maybe even Tennessee and South Carolina – are committed and on an upward track. Auburn seemed to be on that track last season, but it has reversed course.
Whatever decision is made, it had best be made with some serious insight and based only on what is best for Auburn football’s future. To fail to do that would be the most expensive mistake of all and could leave Auburn wandering in the college football wilderness for years to come.
***
How can a team run 80 plays to the opponent’s 68, give up just 68 yards rushing, have 10 tackles for loss, gain 448 yards on offense and still lose?
Turn the ball over three times with two leading to touchdowns, force no turnovers, give up 10-of-19 third-down conversions and give up six pass completions of 25 yards or more. That’s how Auburn did it on Saturday.
One of the stranger stats in the game was that, despite running 12 fewer plays, Tennessee dominated the time of possession 34:01 to 25:59.
***
It has to be of great concern that this Auburn football team, instead of improving over the course of the season, has gone in the other direction. The outfit that lost to Tennessee bore little resemblance to the one that beat Washington or even the one that lost to LSU on a walkoff field goal.
It’s been a very puzzling season, to be sure.
***
Tennessee has some good players, but not enough. It made some good plays, but they shouldn’t have been enough. The Vols have a long way to go to be a good team, but they deserve credit. They came to play and they gave head coach Jeremy Pruitt his first SEC win.
***
For all the other questions about Auburn’s offense, the line remains the biggest issue. Quarterback Jarrett Stidham doesn’t get a pass for two interceptions and a fumble, but he was under serious duress on all three plays.
***
Freshman receiver Anthony Schwartz looks like one of the more explosive players to show up at Auburn in a long time. Why did he get just one pass thrown to him after his 76-yarder for a touchdown? I don’t know, but it sure seems like he ought to be touching the ball more often in every game.
***
Isn’t it time for people to stop laughing at Coach O? And at offensive coordinator Steve Ensminger, for that matter. LSU dominated Georgia from start to finish Saturday in Baton Rouge. The 36-16 romp was reminiscent of Auburn’s 40-17 victory over the Bulldogs last season.
Alabama also must go to Tiger Stadium. It will be interesting to see if LSU can mount a challenge to the Tide.
Until next time …
I said it last year to one of my friends. No matter what, he should have gone to Arkansas. If all the rumors were true about his wife wanting to get back closer to home. (supposedly her parents are getting up in years). He would have had 4-5 years, at minimum and no cross state rival to be compared to week in and week out. When you're making 7 figures........does it really matter? He would have got paid well at R-Kansas and wouldn't be on the hot seat until year 3, most likely year 4. And the seat wouldn't be hot unless they didn't go bowling for a couple years. I know this is hind-sight, yada yada yada.
TerryP
Staff
Same reasons everyone else is talking about them. Their season is following a very familiar script and they're in deep right now.
@rick4bama , it's that car wreck when you drive up on it and you just can't look away.
They can't suffer enough to suit me.
ChemE
Member
Since that dreaded kick 6 aubarn is 23 - 23 against Power 5 teams. Added 49 mill to their High School coach to boot! Laughing at them!
TerryP
Staff
It doesn't compute when you consider they've been ranked 55 of those weeks.
I think their gravitas is inflated by being in the SEC and having made an NC during the bespectacled ones' tenure.
ChemE
Member
Aub (P5 record only) since the disaster on the pasture
2013 1-1
2014 5-5 Finished at #22
2015 6 losses 3 wins, spent first three weeks ranked and never made it back in.
2016 5-5 unranked until week 7, finished ranked at 24
2017 3 losses 7 wins doesn't count the bowl loss to UCF Finished at #10
2018 3 losses (so far!) 2 wins Unranked today.
23-23
2013 1-1
2014 5-5 Finished at #22
2015 6 losses 3 wins, spent first three weeks ranked and never made it back in.
2016 5-5 unranked until week 7, finished ranked at 24
2017 3 losses 7 wins doesn't count the bowl loss to UCF Finished at #10
2018 3 losses (so far!) 2 wins Unranked today.
23-23
JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
Member
By all accounts the President of AU signed off on this deal so his azz is on the hook. Paying 7 million wouldn't be that big of a deal but a buyout of more than 5 million is stupid for any coach on the planet not named Nick Saban.
