| FTBL Meyer trying to turn Richardson

[imported_porkchop]

Interesting article. I particularly loved the part where one of their commits is trying to tell Richardson not to go to BAMA because,...and I quote..."Nick Saban will leave" and......."Urban Meyer won't do that".

Amazing that people are so ignorant they'll believe anything they hear. I'm talking about the Florida guy, not Richardson. Does Silberman not know Urban Meyer's history? I mean, is he so blinded....or dumb...that he doesn't realize that Urban Meyer's coaching history is more akin to Dennis Franchione's than it is to say...Joe Paterno's? Meyer's career up until this point has been defined by taking the next best thing as soon as possible.

For someone like Tubberville, Petrino or Meyer to attempt to play a card like that against Saban is absolutely laughable.

http://www.gatorsports.com/article/...6&title=Gators_hope_to_sway_tailback_prospect

 

[Guest]

:? After reading that, I'm not so confident in his committment. But, I feel like him like I do other prospects, if they don't wanna play for us, I don't want 'em.

 

[Guest]

Interesting article. I particularly loved the part where one of their commits is trying to tell Richardson not to go to BAMA because,...and I quote..."Nick Saban will leave" and......."Urban Meyer won't do that".

Amazing that people are so ignorant they'll believe anything they hear. I'm talking about the Florida guy, not Richardson. Does Silberman not know Urban Meyer's history? I mean, is he so blinded....or dumb...that he doesn't realize that Urban Meyer's coaching history is more akin to Dennis Franchione's than it is to say...Joe Paterno's? Meyer's career up until this point has been defined by taking the next best thing as soon as possible.

For someone like Tubberville, Petrino or Meyer to attempt to play a card like that against Saban is absolutely laughable.

http://www.gatorsports.com/article/...6&title=Gators_hope_to_sway_tailback_prospect

A 2010 commit? Why would Richardson listen to a 16 year old child?

 

[imported_porkchop]

Personally, I read that and felt fine with Richardson's status. And I don't think he's gonna listen to that snot-nosed kid either.

Saban knew Richardson was going to continue to take visits. In fact, Saban might have encouraged Richardson to take the visits. I'm not too terribly concerned, but you can't underestimate Meyer either. Guy's a snake.

 

[shipley00]

Urban Crier's reputation is well documented with his questionable (at best) tactics. I feel comfortable in Saban's closing arguments.

 

[Argo]

I don't understand why ANY runningback with skills to get to the next level would want to play for Urban Meyer. Have they not watched any of his offensive schemes? I truly believe the guys hates the runningback position and would rather have a two fullbacks to help block instead of a true threat at runningback.

 

[TerryP]

I don't understand why ANY runningback with skills to get to the next level would want to play for Urban Meyer. Have they not watched any of his offensive schemes? I truly believe the guys hates the runningback position and would rather have a two fullbacks to help block instead of a true threat at runningback.

Just a guess, but in Meyer's system I see TR being used more in an H-back position than a true RB.

While Meyer didn't say any of this first hand (by the way it was reported) one has to assume these UF players had someone from the recruiting staff "in their ears."

 

[alagator]

...Meyer's career up until this point has been defined by taking the next best thing as soon as possible.

For someone like Tubberville, Petrino or Meyer to attempt to play a card like that against Saban is absolutely laughable.

Limiting my comments solely to the issue of moving jobs.

Tubberville has been at Auburn for, what, ten years now? Even though many have speculated he has pursued other jobs, he has outlasted DuBose, Franchoine, Price, and Shula at UA. In fact, only Fulmer has a longer tenure at one school in the SEC than does Tubberville. So, you may be a little off base.

Petrino. No doubt you have a valid claim.

Meyer, as you pointed out, made a number of coaching moves in short order. But, as you also inadvertently pointed out, each of his successive moves was to a much better job - Bowling Green to Utah to UF. Not really sure he will find a much better college job from which to move from UF. So, he will be a long-termer there.

All that said, I am beginning to grow a little uncomfortable with the way Meyer pushes the envelope with all the negative recruiting. UF provides him with EVERYTHING a college coach could imagine (both athletically and academically - with frankly the latter being more impressive than the former), yet he constantly dwells on short-selling another program. Nothing really unethical about it all, just something I do not find compelling or worthy.

 

[jdpas29]

i respect Meyer and his system, but he's probably realized that to compete for a NC playing with the big boys he's going to have to have just about the best players across the board on offense.

he can't win 10 games on a regular basis with average or slightly above talent with the offense he's implementing... not in this conference.

 

[Guest]

This quote makes me much better. It is at the end of the article.

“Living in Florida and then playing at a Florida school, that’s good,” he said. “That’s a good look because that’s your home state. I like Florida. I love Florida to death, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.”

 

[imported_porkchop]

...Meyer's career up until this point has been defined by taking the next best thing as soon as possible.

For someone like Tubberville, Petrino or Meyer to attempt to play a card like that against Saban is absolutely laughable.

Limiting my comments solely to the issue of moving jobs.

Tubberville has been at Auburn for, what, ten years now? Even though many have speculated he has pursued other jobs, he has outlasted DuBose, Franchoine, Price, and Shula at UA. In fact, only Fulmer has a longer tenure at one school in the SEC than does Tubberville. So, you may be a little off base.

Petrino. No doubt you have a valid claim.

Meyer, as you pointed out, made a number of coaching moves in short order. But, as you also inadvertently pointed out, each of his successive moves was to a much better job - Bowling Green to Utah to UF. Not really sure he will find a much better college job from which to move from UF. So, he will be a long-termer there.

All that said, I am beginning to grow a little uncomfortable with the way Meyer pushes the envelope with all the negative recruiting. UF provides him with EVERYTHING a college coach could imagine (both athletically and academically - with frankly the latter being more impressive than the former), yet he constantly dwells on short-selling another program. Nothing really unethical about it all, just something I do not find compelling or worthy.

I agree with a lot of what you said gator and when I posted my comments on Tubbs and Meyer they were obviously comments that could have been taken different ways depending on your personal feeling regarding each of them. One can point to the fact that Tubbs has been at AU for a while now, suggesting stability, but on the other hand, Tubbs is the same guy that skipped out on Ole Miss in the middle of the night. Pine box anyone? :lol: Whether warranted or not, behavior like that can suggest that an individual coach isn't above questionable ethics and shady dealings to further his own ends. And isn't above doing it again i.e. someone like Franchione.

As far as Meyer goes, he's hopped jobs. Heck he was at Utah for what? All of a season, maybe two, after coming from Bowling Green. You are right in that he's taken better jobs, but he's still been a "hopper". Franchione arguably took better jobs every year too, but that doesn't change fans' perception of him as a gun for hire. It had been said for years (and with a lotof truth to it) that Franchione was a coach who had never seen his first recruiting class graduate because he was always too busy looking for the next best thing.


The only saving grace for Meyer (IMHO) is that he was lucky enough to land the Florida gig. Had he ended up at another school he'd likely still be shopping himself and moving jobs every other year. He won't leave Florida anytime soon, unless he's a complete idiot. He's got a dream gig there.

But you can spin this stuff different ways. If Meyer is telling his kids that Nick Saban leaves jobs one can simply go back and review Meyers' own history and see that its like the pot calling the kettle black. Unfortunately I think a lot of recruits only get or care about one side of the story.

 

[bamabarney]

I think Meyer jumpes ship way before Coach Saban does. I see him trying the NFL if they come calling in the next few years. The only way Coach Saban leaves Bama, is if he get the ax, and I don't see that happening. The future is too bright and once he get's another recruiting class in like this past one we should be back in the mix of championships and BCS bowls.

 

[SnakeFan]

Meyer moving to Indiana

IMO Meyer still wants the ND job...

 

[Guest]

Re: Meyer moving to Indiana

IMO Meyer still wants the ND job...

That's what I've been telling my Gator-lovin' friend. IMO, Weiss will be fired after this season, if they do not show MAJOR improvements. Perfect time for Urban Legend, I mean Meyer to resurrect the Irish. Some say "Why leave Florida for ND?", because ND is not in the toughest conference in football. And, you can still recruit blue chip football players.

 

[imported_porkchop]

Re: Meyer moving to Indiana

IMO Meyer still wants the ND job...

I think so too. But until that opens up he's perfectly content to stay in Florida I think. In fact, one would have to wonder if he would leave Florida if given the choice? I mean, Notre Dame is up there with Alabama in terms of history and prestige. Turning that program back into the dominant program in college ball would certainly have to appeal to Urban, but Florida has some things to offer too. Most notably, a fertile recruiting base to exploit and one that pretty much guarentees your talent is championship level year in, year out.

 

[BamaJay73]

Re: Meyer moving to Indiana

IMO Meyer still wants the ND job...

Huh? Why didn't he take it then? He had offers from ND & UF at the same time & chose Florida. :?

 

[TerryP]

Re: Meyer moving to Indiana

IMO Meyer still wants the ND job...

Huh? Why didn't he take it then? He had offers from ND & UF at the same time & chose Florida. :?

ND was "late to the party." By a good month or more...UF and Meyer had been in discussions (some speculate they already had an agreement in place) for quite awhile.

I don't see Meyer moving to the NFL because I don't know of one NFL owner or GM that would consider his offense at that level.

ND? After going after high profile names like O'Leary, Willingham (semi-high profile..if you follow college football you knew about his record at Stanford) and then Weiss I can't see them taking on UF in what would essentially be a bidding war.

Assuming ND fires Weiss and Paterno retires I can see those two schools in a war for Schiano. IF GS is smart, he'd take the ND job.

This perhaps deserves a thread of its own. But, I'll shoot it in here.

If you want to know the name of a coach who'll find his name on the lips of a lot of talking heads when coaching searches commence after the '08 season...go no further than Randy Edsall.

 

[alagator]

Re: Meyer moving to Indiana

IMO Meyer still wants the ND job...

Huh? Why didn't he take it then? He had offers from ND & UF at the same time & chose Florida. :?

Meyer enjoys a very comfortable professional relationship with UF President Bernie Machen.

Machen was the then President at Utah and oversaw the hiring of Meyer from Bowling Green to Utah. One year later, Machen was hired at UF. One year later, Machen targeted Meyer as the chief candidate to replace Ron Zook.

Machen likes and respects Meyer to the point Machen was more than willing to privately and PUBLICALLY reject Steve Spurriers very real desire and efforts to return as the HBC at Florida.

Machen has no threat to his job as UF President, which means Meyer has the strongest supporter possible in his camp. About the only way I see Meyer leaving Gainesville for Notre Dame is if the Domers hire Machen first. If so, all bets are off.

 

[Jeremy]

Couple of thoughts on this:

1. I don't think Notre Dame is ever going to get back to the level they used to be at. The administration has already rejected lowering their admissions standards, which means who have to find the Academic All America kids and convince them to go there. With Weiss there, they can carve a niche for themselves as an offensive school that makes a run every five or so years.

2. If Meyer is going to take an NFL shot, it'll be a package deal with Tebow. He's going to want to run his offense at the next level, and I doubt he'll do that without the "best college football player in history" running the show.

3. Schiano to Penn State is a done deal. And that's sad because Schiano is a total slime ball who's going to crush Paterno's legacy under his heel as quickly as he can.

4. Saban is a program hopper too, but he's in the same boat as Dennis Erickson at Arizona State. In reality, they're too old and their situation's are too good to hop again. Both coaches are going to be at their current schools 7-10 years and then retire. I just hope Saban has someone in mind to replace him when he goes.