🏈 Look at this. Dec. 4th, there's a chance football and basketball will play the #1 team in the nation that Saturday.

[50+yeartidefan]

"One way ticket to the blues."

You are on a quoting rhythm today!!!!!
Roll Tide!!! Lol

" The got a name for the winners in the world... they call Alabama the Crimson Tide". Thats for December Dec 4

 

[TerryP]

Mindset is what I would say. Is it the cultural norm for a team to be in these positions and have they had success doing so? Team to team I understand your point but when Bama is in a tight game at the championship level in football they have been there done that as a program so this their norm. That is my point. Still have to prepare and do all the things necessary to win the game but even the prep is the norm for them because they know how to do it. Probably not explaining myself well but I have seen it time after time where a program was new to the scene and playing lights out but on the big stage they are not able to pull it out.

If we start with the staff, the answer is definitely yes: a coach that's been "dancing" four of the last six seasons.

Let's backtrack a bit though; I'm not a fan of a comparison to football. Rosters rotations can change the culture in a quarter of the time with the right support system. A coach can change out 40% of his roster in one class; guys that are ready to play that day.

Brings us back to mindset. Look at the roster and tell me where you see guys that have been in close games only to drop them in the end? Where's that culture they've been accustomed to playing in?

A program "new to the scene" makes sense in some sports; the youth in basketball counters that in my view.

 

[mando]

If we start with the staff, the answer is definitely yes: a coach that's been "dancing" four of the last six seasons.

Let's backtrack a bit though; I'm not a fan of a comparison to football. Rosters rotations can change the culture in a quarter of the time with the right support system. A coach can change out 40% of his roster in one class; guys that are ready to play that day.

Brings us back to mindset. Look at the roster and tell me where you see guys that have been in close games only to drop them in the end? Where's that culture they've been accustomed to playing in?

A program "new to the scene" makes sense in some sports; the youth in basketball counters that in my view.

I am talking about playing championship games/teams. Gonzaga is in the top tier right now. Where has Bama basketball proven to be in that rarefied air and had success? I am hopeful but not confident they can. Even with Bama football with all of our tradition it took the GOAT a couple of years to get team over the hump.

 

[Bammerboy321]

Definitely looking forward to the best team on campus beat Gonzaga that night.

 

[TerryP]

I am talking about playing championship games/teams. Gonzaga is in the top tier right now. Where has Bama basketball proven to be in that rarefied air and had success? I am hopeful but not confident they can. Even with Bama football with all of our tradition it took the GOAT a couple of years to get team over the hump.

Like Saban's first title we're in year three with Oats following a championship season last year. We're getting back into football comparisons here and I don't see that they fit; at all. As mentioned earlier the roster turnover happens much more quickly in basketball so the culture, the mindset, you're referring to can happen more quickly. It has. That's not mentioning how many freshman we see yearly as game changers in basketball versus it taking two and three years for those to emerge in football.

By no means am I trying to put the 'Zags and Tide on the same level through the last decade. It's not a fair comparison. I do believe this Alabama team can play with the 'Zags; and beat them.

My earlier comment still stands. These games are ones where we, as fans, should expect to see the team win. While some credit goes to Avery for where the team is today I don't see them carrying the blemishes from his time here. IE: the ability to finish down the stretch. (And I fully expect them to struggle in a game or two finishing: happens to every team, every year.) It's not a "between the ears" thing.

 

[mando]

Like Saban's first title we're in year three with Oats following a championship season last year. We're getting back into football comparisons here and I don't see that they fit; at all. As mentioned earlier the roster turnover happens much more quickly in basketball so the culture, the mindset, you're referring to can happen more quickly. It has. That's not mentioning how many freshman we see yearly as game changers in basketball versus it taking two and three years for those to emerge in football.

By no means am I trying to put the 'Zags and Tide on the same level through the last decade. It's not a fair comparison. I do believe this Alabama team can play with the 'Zags; and beat them.

My earlier comment still stands. These games are ones where we, as fans, should expect to see the team win. While some credit goes to Avery for where the team is today I don't see them carrying the blemishes from his time here. IE: the ability to finish down the stretch. (And I fully expect them to struggle in a game or two finishing: happens to every team, every year.) It's not a "between the ears" thing.

Hope your right. Would love to be wrong. If they shoot well and do not have a ton of turnovers they will be in the game but what happens down the stretch in a final four type game? We do not know because Bama has never been in those positions and had success. We saw what happened in OT last year against UCLA or for that matter the entire game especially at the FT line.

Do not get me wrong Oats has done a GREAT job in only 2 years. Heck the fact that we are talking about playing at a championship level is much different than are they on the bubble to make the big dance. The fact that we are talking about this in football season is also a testimony to how far Bama BBall has come under Oats. His mentality on defense and style of play that is attracting elite talent could get them there.

 

[Bammerboy321]

Hope your right. Would love to be wrong. If they shoot well and do not have a ton of turnovers they will be in the game but what happens down the stretch in a final four type game? We do not know because Bama has never been in those positions and had success. We saw what happened in OT last year against UCLA or for that matter the entire game especially at the FT line.
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Time will tell. Saban faced similar questions entering his third year when the team a season prior folded against UF in the fourth quarter. Sometimes you need games like that to learn from.