🏈 long meeting @ Mizzou...

[planomateo]

and they have voted to considered leaving the Big XII.

I wouldn't be surprised if they are flirting with the Big Ten at this point either...they are in a sense, in the drivers seat now.

 

[BamaPride]

and they have voted to considered leaving the Big XII.

I wouldn't be surprised if they are flirting with the Big Ten at this point either...they are in a sense, in the drivers seat now.

Didn't the Big 10 turn them down last year? Do you see that changing?

 

[LBS]

My impressing is that timing is bad for everyone.

B10 not looking, and if they were Missou would not be their next choice nor perhaps the choice after that. In a 16 team construct the Tigers might be a fallback choice as #15 or #16.

B10 would be Missou's first choice, but this the state of the B12 they may not be able to hold out for a shot at the B10's #15 or #16.

SEC would be interested, but timing not right for Missou to settle on the SEC.

 

[planomateo]

You are probably right about timing, I see them in the driver seat at this point, as they have something that other conferences want - a market that nobody else has, as in zero competition for the state. They have a few other credentials as well that some conferences wouldn't mind having - aside from athletics.

I for one am curious to see how Notre Dame fits into this whole thing...

edit, also thinking they learned their lesson last time, thinking they have something lined up. only a fool would step out on the ledge twice.

 

[bamafan9201]

I personally think they'd fit best in the ACC, not just for football, but for basketball as well. It would give the school an all around boost. I do not see them in the SEC. I am wondering if the SEC isn't just biding it's time when the Big 10? or Big 12? Whatever it is now, crumbles and Texas or OU is a possibility. Then you can bring in some big name schools with big money and large traditions.

 

[BadAllergies]

everything I'm hearing says Mizzou to the SEC

 

[bamafan4ever]

I personally think they'd fit best in the ACC, not just for football, but for basketball as well. It would give the school an all around boost. I do not see them in the SEC. I am wondering if the SEC isn't just biding it's time when the Big 10? or Big 12? Whatever it is now, crumbles and Texas or OU is a possibility. Then you can bring in some big name schools with big money and large traditions.

The SEC has offered Mizzou and they are considering the move. I work with some Mizzou guys that have said all along that the Curators want the SEC and so do the fans. We gain the Kansas City and St. Louis markets as well. Great medical school there and they match up well with, say, Florida academically. OU and Texas are two programs that you would think would trump TV market size but not this time. Texas A&M brings the Texas market to the SEC and UT would want to keep it's network. The SEC won't go for that no more than the PAC12 did. OU comes packaged with OSU. That would assure that the SEC would have to find yet another team. This may be Mizzou's only chance should something happen in the near future with the Big 12. They were left out of alignment conversations a month ago and I think they are spooked a bit. We shall see.

 

[bamafan9201]

The SEC has offered Mizzou and they are considering the move. I work with some Mizzou guys that have said all along that the Curators want the SEC and so do the fans. We gain the Kansas City and St. Louis markets as well. Great medical school there and they match up well with, say, Florida academically. OU and Texas are two programs that you would think would trump TV market size but not this time. Texas A&M brings the Texas market to the SEC and UT would want to keep it's network. The SEC won't go for that no more than the PAC12 did. OU comes packaged with OSU. That would assure that the SEC would have to find yet another team. This may be Mizzou's only chance should something happen in the near future with the Big 12. They were left out of alignment conversations a month ago and I think they are spooked a bit. We shall see.

It's conflicting reports. There's a side saying SEC has definitely offered something to Mizzou and reports vehemently denying such reports. I'd have to ask "What do they bring to the table?" I don't see anything Missouri holds that the SEC couldn't just get from a more established program that they could bring in. About Texas, the problem with them was also the revenue sharing, which they've now voted in the Big-12 to share revenue. I don't see why they wouldn't consider seriously a move to join a rival like Texas A&M in the SEC. Though, it might mean Alabama and Auburn get shifted to the SEC-East. Of course anything we say is pure speculation at this point, though some is rooted in facts.

 

[ElephantStomp]

I hope the SEC doesnt allow Mizzou to join. They bring next to nothing to the table, although some will say the MO market, but imho that's not enough to warrant what the SEC would be giving them

 

[TerryP]

The SEC has offered Mizzou and they are considering the move. I work with some Mizzou guys that have said all along that the Curators want the SEC and so do the fans. We gain the Kansas City and St. Louis markets as well. Great medical school there and they match up well with, say, Florida academically. OU and Texas are two programs that you would think would trump TV market size but not this time. Texas A&M brings the Texas market to the SEC and UT would want to keep it's network. The SEC won't go for that no more than the PAC12 did. OU comes packaged with OSU. That would assure that the SEC would have to find yet another team. This may be Mizzou's only chance should something happen in the near future with the Big 12. They were left out of alignment conversations a month ago and I think they are spooked a bit. We shall see.

To clarify this just a bit...

TAMU brings the Houston market into play. Now, they'll be seeing games at noon that are SEC games instead of it just being Big1? coverage—exclusively.

An addition of a school like TCU would bring the Dallas / Ft. Worth market into play during that same time slot.

Do you see where they're / I'm going here? It's a matter of having SEC coverage from lunch until bedtime on football Saturdays.

Same thing applies to our basketball coverage as well...

 

[BamaDelta]

Remember how your mother taught you if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all (well, except when it comes to Auburn)?

With that in mind I have nothing to say about Mizzou.

 

[Big_Fan]

Chiming in...

I live in Missouri.

Right now when there are regional broadcasts, I get Big 12 or Big 10 games.

I don't get SEC / JP / Lincoln Financial...whatever it is now.

If Mizzou enters the SEC, that will change and 6M+ people will get SEC games.

Additionally:

I have lived all over the Southeast. The people in Missouri (at least the Springfield area) are so much like "southerners" that it is impossible to distinguish. There may be a bit of accent difference, but I hear "warsh" for wash every now and then...and I do hear an occasional midwesternism like "you'uns" instead of "y'all." Still, they are extremely "southern" in their ways - moreso than Kentuckians. Heck, they like gravy here more than they do in Alabama if that is possible. http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/gu...tball_big_70_challenge_biscuits_and_gravy.php . They literally smother just about anything in gravy...and they like grits too...and prefer Coke to Pepsi...and rarely do I hear "pop," instead they call the soft drink by name.

People here will hold the door for you walking into a restaurant or store, then argue for you to go first if you try to motion them to go ahead. People driving down the road regularly wave at you for no apparent reason other than just being friendly.

They may not be as rabid here about football as Alabama is, but they do like it a lot. Unlike Kentucky where high school stadiums rarely have "visitors" bleachers (everyone sits on the same side), here there is a "home" and "visitor" side.

In Missouri they recognize football tradition and respect SEC schools. I know that individual results may vary, and some people may not fit the mold that I described, but living among them is enough to sell me.

Count me as a "yes" vote for Mizzou to come to the SEC. Having spent time in Indiana, Ohio, and having friends and colleagues from Pennsylvania and Miichigan, I don't see Mizzou as a good fit in the B10+. SEC West games would not be prohibitively far for travel...granted they would have more 300-400 mile trips from campus in the B10+, but they are "the" state university, and their fan base is all over the state...they don't have an "*burn" or "Tech." Missouri State and SEMO are FCS schools. Mizzou fans in St. Louis have good interstate travel to many SEC destinations. The team will likely have to fly to any B10+ venue. Iowa City is well over 200 miles. Ill, Purdue, and Nebraska are 300+. Arkansas is comparable. Ole Miss is < 500 and Miss State < 600. Michigan and Mich State are ~ 600 miles - similar to Alabama. LSU is closer than State College PA.

 

[psychojoe]

I 'll add my two cents worth. It is true that they don't bring a national championship contender in football or basketball, but they are solid in most sports. Getting SEC broadcasts into St Louis and KC are a definite plus, and if they come in it will put the barn on the eastern side with the other Georgia school. If/when they arrive they would probably be a middle of the pack team in football, and a post season contender in hoops.

Bring on Mizzou.

 

[Bo]

My main problem is I don't want them, is the idea of moving AU to the east. I don't want the Iron Bowl disprupted. It needs to be the last game of the year. That's part of what makes it one of the best rivalry games in the country.

Now, if they'd do like the map someone posted here and go to a North/South division instead of East/West like it is now, that would be fine. And actually make the most sense of any proposal I've heard on any of the "If Mizzoo joins the SEC" scenarios.

Anybody have that SEC North/South map they can post?

 

[planomateo]

this one?

 

[Bo]

Not quite

If I remember correctly basically, it was
SEC North
UT
Mizzou
UArk
Vandy
UK
SoCar
UGa


SEC South
UA
AU
Miss ST
LSU
UF
Ole Miss
TAMU

But that would work fine also.

 

[ColoradoTide]

I like the (potential) addition of Mizzou. I think they fit in well with their football program, culturally, adding KC & STL to the market, .... and I can make a 10 hr drive to Columbia to see Bama whip their butts. :td:


Updated to add: Based on this - http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...-big-ten.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a3&eref=sihp - maybe they should continue living off the crumbs Tx lets fall from their table. The SEC doesn't need them, they need somewhere to go ... and it'll only get worse when the BigTx implodes. I still say MO would be an OK addition, but not enough to deal with that kind of 'tude!

 

[bamafan9201]

Another report talking about Missouri's hopes for the SEC:

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/7063633/missouri-tigers-hope-join-sec-had-wanted-big-ten-invite-most

 

[bamascw]

Well, we all know that the SEC is going to add a 14th team at some point and you have to figure they will do their very best to have them in place by the '12 season as to keep things even. What are our logical choices with the schools that are out there? I don't see anyone that we would be interested in leaving the ACC so what's left? Missouri would not be all that bad.

 

[planomateo]

another interesting read > http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2011/10/05/bcs-football-the-latest-on-realignment-2/

Boise State having a federal graduation rate of 26% certainly doesn't help their case to step into a bigger league.