🏈 Key expected as Alabama's new OL coach per sources. Mario Cristobal expected to move

[Tidestalker]

The OL is an interesting topic. As much as we can point out weaknesses on the field and in recruiting, this was still an offensive line that earned a Heisman Running back.

To me, they were 1 guy short of being great. Yes we all know Dom struggled at tackle... But he was not supposed to be a tackle. If Grant Hill had stayed healthy, no one would be complaining about the recruiting or lack of depth. Dom would have played RG, as planned, and Shank would have been a good third guard to rotate in.

 

[kbama15]

So if Bobby Williams is moving to" special assistant", who is gonna coach special teams?

 

[No Huddle]

I can tell you coaching a TE is a job alone. Not only do you coach them to block in the trenches and pass blocking but also in space. They also have to be able to catch, run a proper route, and read a D for option routes. I would like to see Mario just coach TEs but if Saban wants him to coach Ts and TEs then so be it. I have no reason to believe it will not work.

 

[UAgrad93]

So if Bobby Williams is moving to" special assistant", who is gonna coach special teams?

I imagine that CBW will still be involved in the practices and preparations for the special teams. Coach Willie Carl Martin is a pretty good example of a "special assistant" that doesn't have an "on field" position. He is VERY active throughout the week with the D line, I believe, in drills, helping Bo Davis. On Saturdays, he is on the sidelines, being a "cheerleader".

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

I can't imagine someone coaching TE's AND T's. Two very different positions. Similar somewhat, but TE's have way more responsibility than T's.

I don't see how Mario would be able to devote enough attention to either to fully coach them properly.

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[OldPlayer]

I imagine that CBW will still be involved in the practices and preparations for the special teams. Coach Willie Carl Martin is a pretty good example of a "special assistant" that doesn't have an "on field" position. He is VERY active throughout the week with the D line, I believe, in drills, helping Bo Davis. On Saturdays, he is on the sidelines, being a "cheerleader".

What you're saying is a contradiction. If he takes an "off-field" position, he will not be (can not be) on the practice field. He can not be on the sidelines during a game. Off-field coaches are involved in tendency analysis, game planning (schematics) and film review.

 

[UAgrad93]

What you're saying is a contradiction. If he takes an "off-field" position, he will not be (can not be) on the practice field. He can not be on the sidelines during a game. Off-field coaches are involved in tendency analysis, game planning (schematics) and film review.

Do you know which one is Willie Carl Martin? I have seen him in practice and on the sidelines on Saturday. He is NOT listed as one of the 9 on field assistants. I know this guy from his time as the HC at Benjamin Russell High School in Alexander City. Hell! He may be listed in with the strength and conditioning BUT the guy is helping out in position drills.

I just went on to the athletic website and it looks as though Willie Carl has retired. I know it says analysts by these guys names but they are on the practice field, game field, or in the booth.

 

[rueben]

Anyone thinking about Coach Ansley moving over ST?

 

[OldPlayer]

Do you know which one is Willie Carl Martin? I have seen him in practice and on the sidelines on Saturday. He is NOT listed as one of the 9 on field assistants. I know this guy from his time as the HC at Benjamin Russell High School in Alexander City. Hell! He may be listed in with the strength and conditioning BUT the guy is helping out in position drills.

I just went on to the athletic website and it looks as though Willie Carl has retired. I know it says analysts by these guys names but they are on the practice field, game field, or in the booth.

NCAA rules specify how many types of coaches are allowed in a football program

How many college football coaches does it take to run a team? There are rules about that.

The NCAA spells out how many coaches and what types of coaches a football team may employ in Article 11 of its rulebook. Following is the exact language from the NCAA manual.

NCAA Article 11: Conduct and Employment of Athletics Personnel:

11.7.2 Football Bowl Subdivision - There shall be a limit of one head coach, nine assistant coaches and two graduate assistant coaches who may be employed by an institution in bowl subdivision football.

11.7.2.1 Exceptions to Number Limits FBS - No individual other than coaches designated to fill the coaching categories set forth in Bylaw 11.7.2 may participate in any manner in the coaching of the intercollegiate team of a member institution during any football game, practice or other organized activity, with the following exceptions:

11.7.2.1.1 Weight or Strength Coach FBS - A weight (strength and conditioning) coach may conduct flexibility, warm-up and physical conditioning activities prior to any game and prior to or during any practice or other organized activities without being included in the limitations on number of coaches.

11.7.2.1.2 Undergraduate Coach FBS - The limits on the number of coaches in this section do not apply to undergraduate coaches.

11.7.3 Championship Subdivision Football - There shall be a limit of 11 coaches of any type who may be employed by an institution in championship subdivision football.

11.7.3.1 Exceptions to Number Limits FCS - No individual other than coaches designated to fill the coaching categories set forth in Bylaw 11.7.3 may participate in any manner in the coaching of the intercollegiate team of a member institution during any football game, practice or other organized activity, with the following exceptions:

11.7.3.1.1 Weight or Strength Coach FCS - A weight (strength and conditioning) coach may conduct flexibility, warm-up and physical conditioning activities prior to any game and prior to or during any practice or other organized activities without being included in the limitations on number of coaches.

11.7.3.1.2 Undergraduate Coach FCS - The limits on the number of coaches in this section do not apply to undergraduate coaches.

11.7.3.1.3 Varsity/Freshman Team Football Program FCS - An institution that conducts a championship subdivision football program that includes a varsity team and a freshman team may employ two additional coaches. Freshman eligibility for varsity team participation must be prohibited by the institution and the freshman team must participate in five or more intercollegiate contests in order for the two additional coaches to be employed. Such additional coaches may perform football-related duties only during the permissible playing and practice season in football.

11.7.3.1.4 Varsity/Junior Varsity/Freshman Team Football Program FCS - An institution that conducts a championship subdivision football program that includes a varsity team, a junior varsity team and a freshman team may employ four additional coaches. Freshman eligibility for varsity or junior varsity team participation must be prohibited by the institution, the junior varsity team must participate in at least four intercollegiate contests and the freshman team must participate in at least five intercollegiate contests in order for the four additional coaches to be employed. Such additional coaches may perform football-related duties only during the permissible playing and practice season in football.

11.7.3.1.5 Varsity/Junior Varsity Football Program FCS - An institution that conducts a championship subdivision football program that includes a varsity team and a junior varsity team may employ two additional coaches. The institution's junior varsity team must participate in at least four intercollegiate contests in order for the two additional coaches to be employed. Such additional coaches may perform football-related duties only during the permissible playing and practice season in football.

 

[MacLittle13]

:sarcasm:

Anyone thinking about Coach Ansley moving over ST?

That's a possibility for Ansley, but I've always heard that even though Bobby Williams was tagged as the Special Teams coach, that it was always done by committee.

I can't imagine someone coaching TE's AND T's. Two very different positions. Similar somewhat, but TE's have way more responsibility than T's.

I don't see how Mario would be able to devote enough attention to either to fully coach them properly.

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...Unless Kiffin sees the Tackle Eligible as something more than a once a season gimmick.

 

[ComeOnSon]

The only place I think could be a strain is Cristobal's ego. This is just an observation from 3 states away, but Cristobal was a head coach before he came here, it seems like a demotion for him, to go from OL coach to TE's and Tackles...

Picked up title of Recruiting Coordinator so maybe that helps ease any heartburn.

 

[OldPlayer]

Picked up title of Recruiting Coordinator so maybe that helps ease any heartburn.

There are so many other benefits that Cristobal is getting from Saban (just like Kiffin). I didn't hear anything about a pay cut so I think everyone will be focused.

 

[UAgrad93]

NCAA rules specify how many types of coaches are allowed in a football program

How many college football coaches does it take to run a team? There are rules about that.

The NCAA spells out how many coaches and what types of coaches a football team may employ in Article 11 of its rulebook. Following is the exact language from the NCAA manual.

NCAA Article 11: Conduct and Employment of Athletics Personnel:

11.7.2 Football Bowl Subdivision - There shall be a limit of one head coach, nine assistant coaches and two graduate assistant coaches who may be employed by an institution in bowl subdivision football.

11.7.2.1 Exceptions to Number Limits FBS - No individual other than coaches designated to fill the coaching categories set forth in Bylaw 11.7.2 may participate in any manner in the coaching of the intercollegiate team of a member institution during any football game, practice or other organized activity, with the following exceptions:

11.7.2.1.1 Weight or Strength Coach FBS - A weight (strength and conditioning) coach may conduct flexibility, warm-up and physical conditioning activities prior to any game and prior to or during any practice or other organized activities without being included in the limitations on number of coaches.

11.7.2.1.2 Undergraduate Coach FBS - The limits on the number of coaches in this section do not apply to undergraduate coaches.

11.7.3 Championship Subdivision Football - There shall be a limit of 11 coaches of any type who may be employed by an institution in championship subdivision football.

11.7.3.1 Exceptions to Number Limits FCS - No individual other than coaches designated to fill the coaching categories set forth in Bylaw 11.7.3 may participate in any manner in the coaching of the intercollegiate team of a member institution during any football game, practice or other organized activity, with the following exceptions:

11.7.3.1.1 Weight or Strength Coach FCS - A weight (strength and conditioning) coach may conduct flexibility, warm-up and physical conditioning activities prior to any game and prior to or during any practice or other organized activities without being included in the limitations on number of coaches.

11.7.3.1.2 Undergraduate Coach FCS - The limits on the number of coaches in this section do not apply to undergraduate coaches.

11.7.3.1.3 Varsity/Freshman Team Football Program FCS - An institution that conducts a championship subdivision football program that includes a varsity team and a freshman team may employ two additional coaches. Freshman eligibility for varsity team participation must be prohibited by the institution and the freshman team must participate in five or more intercollegiate contests in order for the two additional coaches to be employed. Such additional coaches may perform football-related duties only during the permissible playing and practice season in football.

11.7.3.1.4 Varsity/Junior Varsity/Freshman Team Football Program FCS - An institution that conducts a championship subdivision football program that includes a varsity team, a junior varsity team and a freshman team may employ four additional coaches. Freshman eligibility for varsity or junior varsity team participation must be prohibited by the institution, the junior varsity team must participate in at least four intercollegiate contests and the freshman team must participate in at least five intercollegiate contests in order for the four additional coaches to be employed. Such additional coaches may perform football-related duties only during the permissible playing and practice season in football.

11.7.3.1.5 Varsity/Junior Varsity Football Program FCS - An institution that conducts a championship subdivision football program that includes a varsity team and a junior varsity team may employ two additional coaches. The institution's junior varsity team must participate in at least four intercollegiate contests in order for the two additional coaches to be employed. Such additional coaches may perform football-related duties only during the permissible playing and practice season in football.

I'm not arguing. Just stating what I see. William Vlachos and Wilson Love are listed as analysts, I believe. Wilson is the one you see jumping up and down on the sideline with the "turnover" belt and Vlachos is in the booth. Willie Carl is quite a large black man and is easily recognizable. He is 6'5" about 270 and has a grey mustache and beard.

 

[OldPlayer]

I'm not arguing. Just stating what I see. William Vlachos and Wilson Love are listed as analysts, I believe. Wilson is the one you see jumping up and down on the sideline with the "turnover" belt and Vlachos is in the booth. Willie Carl is quite a large black man and is easily recognizable. He is 6'5" about 270 and has a grey mustache and beard.

S&C coaches don't count in the on field coach limit. Graduate assistants also don't count.

 

[UAgrad93]

S&C coaches don't count in the on field coach limit. Graduate assistants also don't count.

Love is listed as S&C, but Vlachos is listed as an analyst.

 

[61champs]

The Recruiter: Brent Key
Andrew Bone | Editor

Did you know?: Brent Key is a Trussville, Ala. native where he was an All-State selection in football at Hewitt-Trussville High School. He played college football at Georgia Tech where he was a four-year starter (1997-2000) at right guard. Key was an All-ACC selection in 2000.

Coaching experience: Georgia Tech (GA 2001-2002), Western Carolina (TE/RBs coach 2004), UCF (GA, 2005), UCF (TEs, 2006), UCF (Recruiting Coordinator, 2007), UCF (TEs/Specials Teams coach, 2008), UCF (OL coach, 2009), UCF (OL/Recruiting Coordinator 2010-2011), UCF (Assistant Head Coach, OL, Recruiting Coordinator, 2012-2014), UCF (Offensive Coordinator/RBs Coach, 2015).

Recruiting Territory at UCF: Key was responsible for recruiting Florida (DeSoto, Hardee, Highlands, Osceola and Polk County), northwest Georgia, northern Alabama (Birmingham), Alaska, Hawaii, Kansas and New Mexico.

New recruiting territory at Alabama: northeast Alabama, Florida (including Jacksonville and Orlando), north Georgia, Knoxville

Key targets: Calvin Ashley, five-star offensive tackle and Auburn commitment from First Academy in Orlando, Fla., James Robinson, five-star wide receiver from Lakeland High School in Fla., Shaun Wade, five-star cornerback and Ohio State commitment from Trinity Christian in Jacksonville Fla., Jarez Parks, Rivals100 defensive end from Sebastian River High School in Fla., D.J. Matthews, Rivals100 wide receiver and Florida State commitment from Trinity Christian in Jacksonville, Fla., Bruce Judson, Rivals100 athlete from Cocoa High School in Fla., Alaric Williams, four-star athlete and Auburn commitment from Southside High School in Gadsden, Ala., Amari Rodgers, four-star wide receiver and Clemson commitment from Catholic High School in Knoxville, Tenn., and Tyreke Johnson, 2018 safety from Trinity Christian in Jacksonville, Fla.

BONE says: Key is an interesting hire for the University of Alabama. The Crimson Tide now has two offensive line coaches on staff which also includes Mario Cristobal. However, it also gives Alabama two great recruiters. They have their own recruiting territory, and will also recruit offensive line targets.

Key will focus primarily on central Florida where he is an established presence in the area. He knows the Orlando and Jacksonville areas extremely well. He has relationships with coaches, mentors, families, etc. throughout the region.

Alabama will host at least two recruits from his region on February 28 (Junior Day). The prospects include Shaun Wade and Tyreke Johnson.

 

[Max]

S&C coaches don't count in the on field coach limit. Graduate assistants also don't count.

He's not considered a coach, but that doesn't remove the ability for Williams to instruct. An assistant to the coach can be on the practice field like Pendry has been since he left his active role on the offensive line.