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...from Jordan Jefferson that made a difference in that game.


Over the last week I've seen a few comments about the game in New Orleans Jan. 9th. I just finished watching the game a few times last week in a page we've had here but really haven't pushed any traffic towards. (We're thinking of doing more with the video vault room as the summer progresses and we're afforded a little time to "play around with additions to our sites." If you haven't checked it out, spend a little time there. At the bottom you'll find some of the better video's covering the Tide over the last several years.)

In this thread musso brought up a good question about the game plan from LSU. He brought up four questions and observations about the game; the second one is what caught my attention the most because it was something that had crossed my mind a few weeks ago.

Also, wouldn't you think with so much time to practice that LSU's option plays would appear more rehearsed than they appeared during the game? seriously, every option play looked like they were doing it for the first time ever.

He wasn't the only one bringing up the game. Crimson Crazy made the comment about our defense and the possibility that Steele—if he joined the LSU staff—could actually give them a better idea what we were doing defensively in the BCSNC game.

There's actually two different points both are bringing up and they happen to coincide with questions I had earlier this year about whey their offense did as poorly as it did when we met for the second time last year.

As a cursory view, and that's what most have gotten if they've listen only to what pundits have said about the game, you'd think this game fell on the inability to Jordan Jefferson to accomplish anything.

That's true. But, that failure isn't on Jordan Jefferson alone. In fact, I'll say very little of it falls at his feet. It's often said, "good coaches put good players in positions to have success." Here we have coaches putting players in positions that failed. And, they continued to do it for four quarters.

The option, or lack thereof:

If you've watched the game again I'm sure you noticed this. You may have noticed it the first time the game was played due to how blatantly clear it was. But, if you missed it or forgot about it, let me pose this question to you.

Can you recall how often you saw Jerrell Harris running east to west following Jordan as he was running the option? Along with that, have you seen how Menzie seemed to be there about as much? There's a reason for that, one that hasn't been discussed that I've seen.

In the game in November LSU's blocking scheme was centered on taking the OLB out of the play. In essence, putting a hat on Jerrell every time they tried to get around the corner. Or, if we look at the other side, getting a hat on Upshaw.

Instead, LSU chose to put their blocking efforts on our inside linebackers trying to seal both Hightower and Johnson out of the play. In a brief look, here's how they approached our defense.

They chose to cut our outside linebackers loose and went for the inside linebackers, on the playside, instead. One would think they would have done the same thing they did in Tuscaloosa. In November they made it a point to block Courtney or Jerrell on the outside and let Dont'a and Nico try to chase the play down from their inside positions.

Since they chose to focus on Dont'a and Nico in the BCSNC it left Jefferson taking on the outside linebacker all by himself. You can pick just about any play and see Jerrell or Courtney just following Jefferson down the line of scrimmage waiting for him to make the decision on what he was going to do.

Why on earth Jefferson didn't take out the outside linebacker himself is something I've yet to figure out. I suspect it had to do with our coverage. You can follow a guy like Menzie on those plays and see him engage the receiver and then wait just behind the OLB waiting for the pitch.

Making matters all the worse in those option plays is the tight end and the offensive tackles struggled the entire game to block Nico and Dont'a. That only makes sense. How they heck the offensive staff thought those guys would have a reasonable chance to contain either in the open field is just beyond my capabilities of explanation.

What it ended up leaving was Menzie sitting back watching for the pitch while Jefferson usually had two of our linebackers all over him.

Why didn't they change their approach? Guys, that's not a players fault. That lies squarely on the offensive coaching staff. Need I remind you that Miles background is as an offensive line coach?

I mentioned before the game I felt our chances were very good because of the approach Miles was taking to the whole weekend. He was encouraging his players to "enjoy the experience, take it all in." Hey, there's nothing wrong with that. That is until you run into another team with a completely different approach, take care of business. Need evidence? See Miles and his family posing for pictures before the game versus another staff focused on one thing and one thing only: the game at hand.

Now, you can add another reason to the list of what when wrong for LSU.

After all, and let's not forget, we did little different in the first game when compared to the second.

I've got some observations on wide receiver play from LSU I'll get to in a few days. But for now, I think this is long enough, eh?
 
Good piece Terry. I think some blame should fall on Jefferson as well though. When running the option, QBs are taught to attack the inside shoulder of the READ man (OLB or DE). You make the man make the decision. Can't remember how many times the OC chewed my ass in practice for NOT attacking the front shoulder. Jefferson never once attacked and stayed parallel to the line. This made Harris and Upshaw's job even easier. Granted those two guys were great defenders anyways. They also screwed up by never running it from the gun as they did in Nov. The gun formation allows that downhill approach to attack the inside shoulder. Changing blocking schemes is never a good thing, especially when you are cruising along in the season. I once coached on a staff that we changed midstream, simply because we were very talent deficient and power football wasn't working.
 
I thought Jefferson gave up the ball too easily. Although Harris played great D on the edge, I thought there were a few opportunities for Jefferson to cut it up and get some tough three or four yards. Of course, he would have been exposed to Hightower and the like scraping. Although I see the difference in blocking schemes, I think it came down to courage and toughness. Hell, Nick Gentry grinding away and making big plays in the middle was good scheming, but most of it came down to toughness and desire.

RTR,

Tim
 
I do remember regularly seeing either Upshaw or Harris free on the edge with Menzie or Dre fighting through their blocks to affect, if not end, the play. But Terry, are you able to offer any conceivable reason for LSU to change their blocking scheme on the option play for the national title game? That just seems like an idiotic decision to make. I mean, the only explanation I can imagine is that perhaps Miles and Co truly felt fortunate to escape Tuscaloosa with a win and sincerely felt like they were the inferior team, therefore justifying the implementation of significant changes for the rematch.

But to Eleven's point, Jefferson definitely seemed lost however I wouldn't presume to know enough to blame it on cowardice or a lack of desire. I mean, he's a big guy who has taken lots of shots against us and survived just fine. Plus, he didn't hesitate to jump on Mosley after that pick. What I remember from watching it multiple times is how poorly he executed the option. For instance, when Upshaw or Harris was in his face he didn't even try to fake the pitch or [if he was determined to pitch it] to lure the defender into committing to him before then pitching it out. I also remember the running back taking bad angles on the option play so that he wasn't in a suitable position to receive a pitch. A couple of times I remember LSU running the option oddly to the short side of the field and predictably running out of room. Still another time I remember Jefferson keeping the ball on the option and having plenty of running room but slipping on the turf.

Again, like I said in my previous post, the presence of such varied and frequent dysfunctions during the option plays made it appear that they simply hadn't practiced it thoroughly enough. With all the predictions by pundits everywhere that LSU would attack the perimeter, particularly with the option, Miles must have known that Bama would be preparing for it and that if he indeed expected to rely on it to any degree, they would need to put in adequate preparation.
 
Great insight into it. I never understand the reasoning of going for the Option as much as they did in the first place, a Nick Saban/Kirby Smart defense with 30 days to prepare for something and u think its still gonna be effective against that defense?
 
Straying a little bit here, but one thing that will be missing from this year's run D is Barron. Ha Ha and Sunseri may end up being very good players, but the kill shots from Barron are the stuff of legend. If he stays healthy, he has Lott/Atwater potential. I believe it's in the first LSU possession (I typed "drive" and had to edit), but I believe Upshaw was credited with an interior tackle, but it's actually Barron. I had to go look again, it's at the 32:15 mark of the game video above, first play from scrimmage. Ford's not a small back, and he just gets crushed.
 
I was in my den in Morgan City, LA feeling pretty good in the third quarter but found myself yelling at the TV. "Les, you stupid SOB, at least try Jarrett Lee. He might not make a difference but at least you'll know." See, I'm a bit of a Jarrett Lee fan and think the kid got a raw deal. He led LSU to a 9-0 record before Jefferson came back, and then Les put him on the bench. Personally, I don't think he would have made a difference 'cause the Bama defense was playing "Bama Defense" that night. It wasn't all Jefferson's fault, nor was it all Les Miles' fault. Les got out-coached and LSU got out-played. And, I'm getting tired of these LSU fans not giving the Tide their due.
 
Straying a little bit here, but one thing that will be missing from this year's run D is Barron. Ha Ha and Sunseri may end up being very good players, but the kill shots from Barron are the stuff of legend. If he stays healthy, he has Lott/Atwater potential. I believe it's in the first LSU possession (I typed "drive" and had to edit), but I believe Upshaw was credited with an interior tackle, but it's actually Barron. I had to go look again, it's at the 32:15 mark of the game video above, first play from scrimmage. Ford's not a small back, and he just gets crushed.

great points. love the phrase "kill shots". very fitting!

and yes, after rewatching it i too noticed Barron's hit on the first play. i kept backing it up to watch that play repeatedly just to determine if it was all Barron or if the other Bama defenders also contributed to Ford's abrupt change in direction. if you look closely, it's clear that the impact with Ford is Barron's and Barron's alone, despite the presence of other Bama defenders to help clean up. and like you said, Eleven, Ford isn't small.
 
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