🏈 I'm told Ole Miss voted against A&M coming in the conference. Why do you think they decided...

[TerryP]

...to do that?

Vandy didn't vote...there's another question.

 

[planomateo]

I've seen conflicting reports on the ole miss vote. Abstention is certainly interesting. I know there are a few different reasons to do this, just can't figure out which one fits Vandy. I guess they wanted to mildly say no?

also haven't seen what Baylor is doing yet - again more conflicting information here. I know they are holding the cards on this - they could easily hurt themselves in the future if they go down this path of suing.

So A&M to SEC with a no-sue clause by big-xii schools right?

 

['65 Cobra]

ESPN reported that it was a "unanimous" vote to accept TAM conditioned on there not being any legal action (Baylor threatening to sue).

 

[planomateo]

this letter shows big-xii said yes 5 days ago.

http://images.radcity.net/6960/4850286.pdf

This is to confirm our discussion yesterday during which I informed you that the Big 12
Conference Board of Directors unanimously authorized me to convey to you and their colleagues
in the Southeastern Conference that the Big 12 and its members will not take any legal action for
any possible claims against the SEC or its members relating to the departure of Texas A&M
University from the Big 12 and the admission of Texas A&M into the SEC; provided, however,
that such act by the SEC to admit Texas A&M is publicly confirmed by 5:00 p.m. (CDT) on
September 8, 2011.

 

[psychojoe]

My Longhorn buddy tells me that Baylor is talking about reneging on their pledge.

Since we can't have an odd number of teams for long, what should be the SEC's next move? If Texas, TT, OU and OSU bolt for the PAC 10 that leaves no viable major conference player in the remains of the Big 12 except for Missouri. They are decent in football and very competitive in their other programs. The geography isn't a great fit, but we would get into the Kansas City and St Louis markets. Will that be the next move?

 

[planomateo]

so i read something pj, that talks about why we can have an uneven number - hadn't thought about this, it was playing with 15 teams in a conf, 5 team divisions.

 

[ElephantStomp]

Baylor has changed their minds and are threatening to sue because in their words "Texas A&M pledged support for the Big 12 and are now going against what they told member schools". I read that today, but can't remember where. I will look for it and try and find it.

 

[Bamsambo]

Not that my opinion matters but I think the whole thing sucks.

 

[LBS]

Baylor has changed their minds and are threatening to sue because in their words "Texas A&M pledged support for the Big 12 and are now going against what they told member schools". I read that today, but can't remember where. I will look for it and try and find it.

I seem to recall all the schools that were left did the same, so is Baylor holding the entire conference hostage? And for how long? It can't go on forever. And how hypocritical that is, Baylor changes its mind a wants to sue A&M because they changed their mind.

How stupid.

 

[JoshB]

ESPN said it was a unanimous decision...

but yeah Baylor is just scared of the Big XII imploding and them being sent into Conference USA/Sun Belt hell...

 

[jdpas29]

ESPN said it was a unanimous decision...

but yeah Baylor is just scared of the Big XII imploding and them being sent into Conference USA/Sun Belt hell...

EXACTLY!!!:hyper:

 

[planomateo]

its being reported much worse by espn...

Texas A&M's move to the SEC ultimately would happen if Oklahoma stays put in the Big 12, but until that occurs eight of the remaining nine Big 12 schools will not waive their right to pursue litigation against the SEC and A&M, a source with knowledge of the situation told ESPN.com.


newest release from Big-XII

"This is the first time to my knowledge that a conference has been requested to waive any legal claims toward another conference for any damages suffered with a membership change. The Big 12 Conference was asked by Texas A&M University and the Southeastern Conference to waive any such claim to help facilitate Texas A&M's departure from the Conference without any consideration to the Big 12. Although they were not obligated to do so, the Big 12 Board of Directors decided to accommodate that request as it relates to The Big 12 Conference, Inc., which is reflected in the September 2 letter sent to SEC commissioner Mike Slive.

However, the waiver did not and could not bind the individual member institutions' governing boards to waive institutional rights. If the departure of Texas A&M results in significant changes in the Big 12 membership, several institutions may be severely affected after counting on revenue streams from contracts that were approved unanimously by our members, including Texas A&M. In some cases, members reasonably relied on such approval to embark on obligations that will cost millions of dollars."

 

[planomateo]

looks like all the small schools are banding together to keep the Big-XII together. so Aggies getting egg on the face again?

from an OU site... http://www.crimsonandcreammachine.com/2011/9/7/2409872/can-baylor-keep-a-m-from-joining-the-sec

UPDATE #5: Ok, now things are just getting ridiculous. According to the Waco Tribune-Herald, KU, KSU, Iowa State, and Mizzou have now joined in the first to block A&M but, and this is the good part, only until OU agrees to stay in the Big 12. Supposedly, once OU agrees to stay they'll waive their right to litigation and let A&M go. Seriously?!?